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Post by brobear on Jan 19, 2018 19:47:09 GMT -5
Animal facts and feats by Gerald L. Wood. The greatest weight recorded for a polar bear in the wild is an incredible 1002 kg ( 2,210 pounds ) for a white colossus shot by Arthur Dubs of Medford, Oregon, U.S.A., at the polar entrance to Kotzebue Sound, NW Alaska, in 1960. In April 1962 the 3.39 m ( 11 feet 1.5 inch ) tall mounted animal was put on display at the Seattle World Fair. Actually, yes it was weighed but never authenticized ( if that's a word ) by anyone of any established expertise. But, never-the-less, I have no reason not to believe. Consider that there were two Kodiak bears of this same weight-range: Clyde and Goliath. They were both zoo bears. But then consider that no zoo can feed a bear on a fattier diet than seal - walrus - and whale blubber. *Note: this same record polar bear was mounted in an unnatural position; thus the height recorded is incorrect.
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Post by skibidibopmmdada on Aug 26, 2022 19:11:28 GMT -5
A thread to show bears who are definitely not winning the fat bear award.
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Post by OldGreenGrolar on Aug 26, 2022 23:55:21 GMT -5
Take a look at Stan, he is 810 kgs and scientifically verified by Guinness World Record. The largest and strongest extant land predator.
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Post by brobear on Aug 27, 2022 2:41:55 GMT -5
Quote: Take a look at Stan, he is 810 kgs and scientifically verified by Guinness World Record. The largest and strongest extant land predator. 810 kilograms is equal to 1,785.74 pounds. Even though the Guinness Book of World Records has on numerous occasion been proven unreliable, a male polar bear of this size is easily believable. I would love to see a biologist report on this massive bear. By the way, forelimb equals arm. Forearm is the arm stretching from the elbow to the wrist.
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Post by skibidibopmmdada on Aug 27, 2022 7:26:01 GMT -5
Take a look at Stan, he is 810 kgs and scientifically verified by Guinness World Record. The largest and strongest extant land predator. I remember him, he went to my local gym.
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Post by skibidibopmmdada on Aug 27, 2022 7:39:51 GMT -5
Quote: Take a look at Stan, he is 810 kgs and scientifically verified by Guinness World Record. The largest and strongest extant land predator. 810 kilograms is equal to 1,785.74 pounds. Even though the Guinness Book of World Records has on numerous occasion been proven unreliable, a male polar bear of this size is easily believable. I would love to see a biologist report on this massive bear. By the way, forelimb equals arm. Forearm is the arm stretching from the elbow to the wrist. I'm looking for both actually.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2022 7:43:28 GMT -5
OldGreenGrolar, Stan is a beautiful animal and he is very impressive. Basically he is 4 times heavier than an african lion. But, i don't think the guiness world record book is always accurate. Do you have a scientific source which confirm the extraordinary mass of 810kg please?
Concerning the polar bear mounted on the photo i am absolutely not convinced that he was 1002kg. He is not 3,65 meters tall but he is clearly enormous, maybe comparable to Stan. I think he is 3 meters tall (10 feet) or a little more.
I remember that the largest polar bear weighted scientically without any doubt was about 657kg, it is already huge. I am waiting for a serious confirmation concerning the mass of Stan.
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Post by skibidibopmmdada on Aug 27, 2022 8:18:54 GMT -5
OldGreenGrolar, Stan is a beautiful animal and he is very impressive. Basically he is 4 times heavier than an african lion. But, i don't think the guiness world record book is always accurate. Do you have a scientific source which confirm the extraordinary mass of 810kg please? Concerning the polar bear mounted on the photo i am absolutely not convinced that he was 1002kg. He is not 3,65 meters tall but he is clearly enormous, maybe comparable to Stan. I think he is 3 meters tall (10 feet) or a little more. I remember that the largest polar bear weighted scientically without any doubt was about 657kg, it is already huge. I am waiting for a serious confirmation concerning the mass of Stan. Dude is an absolute unit, I wouldn't be surprised if he was like 900 kg or smth. I remember a post here saying there was a polar bear that was 2100 lbs and was only 20% fat. Which means the bear WAS PURE MUSCLE
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Post by arctozilla on Aug 27, 2022 17:23:45 GMT -5
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Post by arctozilla on Aug 27, 2022 17:28:44 GMT -5
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Post by skibidibopmmdada on Aug 27, 2022 17:31:25 GMT -5
Ah yes, bear gym.
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Post by OldGreenGrolar on Aug 28, 2022 0:14:01 GMT -5
OldGreenGrolar, Stan is a beautiful animal and he is very impressive. Basically he is 4 times heavier than an african lion. But, i don't think the guiness world record book is always accurate. Do you have a scientific source which confirm the extraordinary mass of 810kg please? Concerning the polar bear mounted on the photo i am absolutely not convinced that he was 1002kg. He is not 3,65 meters tall but he is clearly enormous, maybe comparable to Stan. I think he is 3 meters tall (10 feet) or a little more. I remember that the largest polar bear weighted scientically without any doubt was about 657kg, it is already huge. I am waiting for a serious confirmation concerning the mass of Stan. Stan” the 810 KG (1785 LBS) polar bear biologist Stenhouse and Nick Lunn caught in Southhampton Island in 1985. I am looking for the link to confirm this. However, this info has been posted by Undertaker and Geuta Gojira (on Wildfact) - both whom are reliable posters. Here is another good summary: beargorillarealm.proboards.com/thread/17/polar-bear-size
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Post by arctozilla on Aug 28, 2022 3:06:09 GMT -5
Here's Popeye showing his muscles.
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Post by OldGreenGrolar on Aug 28, 2022 4:23:57 GMT -5
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Post by OldGreenGrolar on Aug 28, 2022 4:25:09 GMT -5
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Post by OldGreenGrolar on Aug 28, 2022 4:26:30 GMT -5
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Post by arctozilla on Aug 28, 2022 7:52:57 GMT -5
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Post by yz on Aug 28, 2022 7:57:54 GMT -5
Not posting pictures but instead scientific evidence of Brown Bears having proportionally greater muscle attachement sites on their forelimbs than lions and tigers : Scapula Shape Index: It's scapula width/length ratio. Higher score indicates greater muscle attachement such asinfraspinatus supraspinatus and subscapuralis on the shoulder joint as well as greaterability to make certain movements like full-functional upper extremity movementincluding protraction,retraction,elevation,depression,upward rotation,and downward rotation all else being equal.[/u] P.Leo : 77% P.Tigris : 84% U.Arctos : 87% Edge : U.Arctos SAI: Surface area of lateral aspect of scapula relative to scapula length. Higher score Indicates greater relative size of muscles involved in the transfer of forces from the trunk to the forelimbs and in stabilizing the shoulder joint.[/u] P.Leo : 80% P.Tigris : 80% U.Arctos : 84% Edge : U.Arctos SMI: Deltopectoral crest length divided by humerus length. Higher score Displays greatermechanical advantage of deltoid and pectoral muscles at the shoulder joint.[/u] P.Leo : 62% P.Tigris : 62% U.Arctos : 72% Edge : U.Arctos API: Acromion process length/scapula length. Higher score in this ratio increases attachment forthe deltoid muscle.[/u] P.Leo : 8% P.Tigris : N/A U.Arctos: 19% Edge : U.Arctos HEI: The HEI index measures the relative size of wrist stabilizing muscles and well as severalgrasping muscles in area which facilitate prey grasping such as m. pronator teres, m.extensor carpi radialis, m. extensor carpi ulnaris, m. flexor carpi radialis, and m.flexorcarpi ulnaris ,m. extensor digitorum communis, m. extensor digitorum lateralis,m.flexor digitorum superficialis, m. palmarislongus,and m. flexor digitorum profundus.These muscles also likely help stability, pushing, and agility when legs are on ground.[/u] P.Leo : 26% P.Tigris : 27% U.Arctos : 30% Edge : U.Arctos OMA: Length of olecranon process relative to length of distal forelimb (Olecranon length/(Radiuslength+ Metacarpal length)). Higher score Indicates greater anatomical mechanicaladvantage of triceps brachii, an elbowextensor.[/u] P.Leo : 20% P.Tigris : 22% U.Arctos : 20% Edge : P.Tigris Overall edge : U.Arctos www.researchgate.net/publication/230843015_Postcranial_morphology_and_the_locomotor_habits_of_living_and_extinct_carnivores www.researchgate.net/publication/298056854_Sexual_selection_on_skeletal_shape_in_Carnivorawww.researchgate.net/publication/247494638_Ecomorphology_of_the_giant_short-faced_bears_Agriotherium_and_Arctodus www.researchgate.net/publication/354365707_Anatomical_Features_of_Some_Bones_of_the_Forelimbs_of_Lions_Panthera_leo www.researchgate.net/publication/317543669_Morphological_and_Certain_Morphometrical_Study_of_Scapula_of_Indian_Tigerwww.researchgate.net/publication/280925355_Carnivoran_postcranial_adaptations_and_their_relationships_to_climate
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Post by skibidibopmmdada on Aug 28, 2022 8:08:47 GMT -5
Great Post!
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Post by arctozilla on Aug 28, 2022 8:23:54 GMT -5
They're also experts in anatomy and morphology, meaning that's legitimated. Bears have stronger muscles than big cats because, unlike felids who are digitigrade, they're plantigrade meaning they have better limb movements which allows them to use upper body weight. Bears also do activities like rolling rocks, tearing apart logs and digging grounds and the grizzly's hump is a great advantage as it's a muscle that powers forelimbs.
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