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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2021 4:49:22 GMT -5
With fully fair fight I mean a fight where both animals are equally determed to win and has equal starting.
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Post by brobear on Jun 6, 2021 5:46:54 GMT -5
When two animals of different species clash: Category 1- face to face confrontation- is a face-off. Category 2- ambush- not a face-off Category 3- chase and catch- not a face-off The strategy of an ambush: 1- Choose your intended victim. 2- Stalk your intended victim - stealth. 3- Attack - the high-speed rush between hiding place and the intended victim. 4- The Ambush - Once the predator makes physical contact with the victim - the ambush is complete - a successful ambush. 5- The Kill - Once the ambush is complete, then the victim must be killed. *Note: Should the predator fail to kill his victim, this does not mean that the ambush was a failed ambush. It was instead a failed kill. *Should the victim break free after the successful ambush and fight against the predator before being killed, the victim is still killed by ambush. What starts off as an ambush remains an ambush.
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Post by brobear on Dec 28, 2021 1:16:12 GMT -5
Ambush predators. Hunting by ambush is an intelligent hunting method. A predator cannot kill his prey until he is able to make physical contact with that chosen prey animal. All cats are ambush predators. Stealth is all important. This even includes the cheetah, who must stalk his prey and get as close as possible before the chase begins. An ambush predator always has specific killing strategies. Chase and Catch predators. Two qualities necessary to a chase and catch predator are stamina and speed. The predator does not have to be a faster runner than his prey, but fast enough to keep them in sight. His greatest asset is his stamina. Using the wolf and the caribou as an example, as the wolves chase the caribou, sooner or later, a caribou is going to tire and fall back from the rest of the herd. Bears are not specialists. A bear is neither a full-time ambush predator nor a full-time chase and catch predator. A bear is an opportunist who hunts by either method depending on the need. If his prey is willing to fight face-to-face, choosing not to flee, the bear will usually oblige.
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Post by tom on Dec 28, 2021 19:01:15 GMT -5
Ambush predators. Hunting by ambush is an intelligent hunting method. A predator cannot kill his prey until he is able to make physical contact with that chosen prey animal. All cats are ambush predators. Stealth is all important. This even includes the cheetah, who must stalk his prey and get as close as possible before the chase begins. An ambush predator always has specific killing strategies. Chase and Catch predators. Two qualities necessary to a chase and catch predator are stamina and speed. The predator does not have to be a faster runner than his prey, but fast enough to keep them in sight. His greatest asset is his stamina. Using the wolf and the caribou as an example, as the wolves chase the caribou, sooner or later, a caribou is going to tire and fall back from the rest of the herd. Bears are not specialists. A bear is neither a full-time ambush predator nor a full-time chase and catch predator. A bear is an opportunist who hunts by either method depending on the need. If his prey is willing to fight face-to-face, choosing not to flee, the bear will usually oblige. One more important aspect about Bears. They don't have to be the fastest or the stealthiest. Since they are the biggest bully on the block they have no qualms about stealing other predators kills to gorge themselves. Follow other predators to acquire your free lunch.
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Post by brobear on Feb 21, 2022 7:13:50 GMT -5
When two animals of different species clash:
Category 1- face to face confrontation- is a face-off.
Category 2- ambush- not a face-off
Category 3- chase and catch- not a face-off
The strategy of an ambush:
1- Choose your intended victim.
2- Stalk your intended victim - stealth.
3- Attack - the high-speed rush between hiding place and the intended victim.
4- The Ambush - Once the predator makes physical contact with the victim - the ambush is complete - a successful ambush.
5- The Kill - Once the ambush is complete, then the victim must be killed.
*Note: Should the predator fail to kill his victim, this does not mean that the ambush was a failed ambush. It was instead a failed kill.
*Should the victim break free after the successful ambush and fight against the predator before being killed, the victim is still killed by ambush. What starts off as an ambush remains an ambush. Ambush predators.
Hunting by ambush is an intelligent hunting method. A predator cannot kill his prey until he is able to make physical contact with that chosen prey animal. All cats are ambush predators. Stealth is all important. This even includes the cheetah, who must stalk his prey and get as close as possible before the chase begins. An ambush predator always has specific killing strategies.
Chase and Catch predators.
Two qualities necessary to a chase and catch predator are stamina and speed. The predator does not have to be a faster runner than his prey, but fast enough to keep them in sight. His greatest asset is his stamina. Using the wolf and the caribou as an example, as the wolves chase the caribou, sooner or later, a caribou is going to tire and fall back from the rest of the herd.
Bears are not specialists. A bear is neither a full-time ambush predator nor a full-time chase and catch predator. A bear is an opportunist who hunts by either method depending on the need. If his prey is willing to fight face-to-face, choosing not to flee, the bear will usually oblige.
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Post by brobear on Feb 21, 2022 7:20:30 GMT -5
Again, as always, it was an ambush. A tiger of any age or sex is not going to take down a bear by face-off. I think that the yellow V-mark of the bear's chest is to give the tiger a pure signal that i have seen you clearly. It was a 'chase and catch' killing which, like an ambush, does not qualify as being a face-off.
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Post by brobear on Jun 21, 2022 8:38:43 GMT -5
As of this point in time, we have no confirmed account of a tiger going face-to-face against an adult female brown bear except after the initial ambush attack. Once ambushed, after the bear manages to throw off her attacker, from this point, if the tiger keeps up his attack, then the tiger is fighting against a wounded bear.
A tiger always kills a brown bear from ambush, with a bite to the neck at the base of her skull. If the she-bear manages to dislodge the tiger and through him off of her back, at this point she has been wounded by both his claws and her teeth. Chances are, her wounds can be described as serious. Should the tiger manage to kill the bear face-to-face in a fight after he has been tossed from her back, this in no way changes the fact that the male tiger ambushed the she-bear. What starts off as an ambush remains an ambush. Both adult female brown bears killed by the famous "bear-killer" known as M20/T-20/Dale/Dima/Misha were killed from ambush.
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Post by brobear on Jun 23, 2022 4:34:43 GMT -5
I will add to this - Methods of a wild predator obtaining meat. Category 1- face to face confrontation- is a face-off. Category 2- ambush- not a face-off Category 3- chase and catch- not a face-off Category 4- scavenging ( finding a carcass )- not a face-off. Category 5- kleptoparasitism- obtaining meat by displacing another predator either by bluff or by force- can lead to a face-off.
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Post by brobear on Nov 10, 2022 4:20:23 GMT -5
Food for thought. From the time a baby animal is old enough to play, we can see the difference in the ambush predators, the chase and catch predators, and the kleptoparasites. 1- Kittens play at stalking and ambushing each other. Cats are hard-wired ambush predators. 2- Puppies play wrestle and chase each other. Older puppies and dogs enjoy chasing a ball or a stick. I have never heard of a cat who chases cars; nor a bear. 3- Bear cubs play wrestle. A bear cub will normally spend anywhere from 3 to sometimes even 4 years with his mother, and siblings will often stay together upwards to a year after this. During these years, the cubs spend a great deal of their time play wrestling; honing their fighting skills.
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