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Post by BruteStrength on Mar 8, 2019 20:43:54 GMT -5
Im not saying I care or anything but how do your posts get likes when mines don't? Im just confused.I use to get likes in the past but what changed? I quit getting as many as I use to.
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Post by King Kodiak on Mar 8, 2019 20:50:23 GMT -5
I dont know what to tell you bro. But i do give you some likes, check your message list.
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Post by BruteStrength on Mar 8, 2019 20:53:02 GMT -5
Yeah it's all good. No big deal. I just wonder what happened because I use to get likes now i rarely get them. I just won't use the like button no more. It pointless anyway.
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Post by King Kodiak on Mar 8, 2019 21:13:05 GMT -5
Yeah it's all good. No big deal. I just wonder what happened because I use to get likes now i rarely get them. I just won't use the like button no more. It pointless anyway. Ask Korol bro, this guy hasnt given one like in history, lmao.
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Post by tom on Mar 8, 2019 21:39:15 GMT -5
Yeah it's all good. No big deal. I just wonder what happened because I use to get likes now i rarely get them. I just won't use the like button no more. It pointless anyway. Don't place too much emphasis on the likes Brute. We very much like ya and are really glad your back and posting again. I hope all is well with you and family.
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Post by BruteStrength on Mar 8, 2019 21:47:22 GMT -5
Thank yoiu Tom. I look at this group as family because I don't have very much family.
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Post by brobear on Mar 9, 2019 9:20:31 GMT -5
Franklin321... For one, I believe in regards to claws as weapons, those of ursines are more efficient, whereas the claws of a feline are multifunctional, they are closer to what we would see as tools; the claws of bears can slash and lacerate with precision, being about as sharp, although not as curved in design as those of a felid. Whereas, a feline's claws are closer to meat-hooks, and better at holding prey, because of this a slash could be slowed down due to the cat's claws being stuck or something equivalent into its rivals flesh. Of course, they still make formidable weapons, and felines can afterall use all eighteen of their claws as weapons whereas bears are limited to ten! As for your statements regarding paw swipes, generally, bears will kill large prey by attempting to control the head of the animal, and than use their jaws to attack the throat. However, they have been known to kill large prey with a clout. Claws: cat claws better for holding/gripping. Bear claws better for ripping tough hide ( can dig through near concrete-hard ground ). Both can cause considerable damage. Cat claws more likely to get hung-up in tough hide or tendons. ( house cats often get "caught" on upholstered furniture ). Teeth: Lion or tiger longer and generally sharper canines. Designed for biting down and holding for strangulation or suffocation. Grizzly canines thicker and deeply rooted for mauling and brawling.
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Post by brobear on Mar 9, 2019 9:30:20 GMT -5
So many things to consider.
#1 - Numbers. This is a huge advantage.
#2 - Experience. This is a great advantage if coupled with learning ability.
#3 - Size and Weight. #4 - Strength and Leverage. #5 - Speed and Quick Reflexes. #6 - Agility. #7 - Natural Weapons. #8 - Natural Armor. #9 - Grappling Ability. #10 - Intelligence. #11 - Bipedal Ability. #11 - Aggressiveness. #12 - Bite Force. *13 - Stamina. *14 - Endurance to Pain and Injury. The more thought I put into this, in a weight-parity face-off ( in a pit or cage where the big cat will fight ) Grizzly vs Lion or Tiger without the bear's size and weight advantage - actually one to two feet shorter ( 30 to 60 cm ) the bear and big cat will also ( probably ) be pretty-much equal in strength also. In all fairness and to be completely honest, the best I can give them is a 50-50 chance each.
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Post by King Kodiak on Mar 9, 2019 10:24:20 GMT -5
The thing is, even at weight parity, most of those 14 advantages still go to the bear. For example, STAMINA, this advantage does not go away at weight parity, its one of the most important advantages a bear has. If you get tired fast, you are in world of trouble. # 14 : Endurance to pain and injury, also very important. if the big cat is unable to get that neck bite fast, its over, bears can endure alot more pain than big cats. #8, natural armor, still bear has that at weight parity.
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Post by brobear on Mar 9, 2019 10:48:01 GMT -5
In reality, unless they were to meet in some desolate location where such as desert, arctic tunda, or high-up in a mountainous terrain ( such as the Himalaya's ), the grizzly is going to have the advantage's of weight and strength. In defense, the big cat fan-boys post given-average sizes for grizzlies that include the weights of bears from 5 years old and up. Most of them know that this is wrong - but they want to "win".
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Post by King Kodiak on Mar 9, 2019 11:06:18 GMT -5
Absolutely. Although i think that at least 80% of big cat fans dont have a clue that brown bears keep growing until at least age 9, they see sites that say that “males become sexually active at age 5” ,so they think they are already full grown. I can have sex at 14, but am sure as hell not full grown. So its not that they lie, they just dont know crap.
by the way, talking about advantages, here it is, Roman Proske: “a bear with every advantage can annihilate a lion or a tiger”
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Post by brobear on Mar 9, 2019 11:26:06 GMT -5
I'm not sure about the exact age, but boys are capable of sex younger that 14. Probably varies some by individual. A grizzly's bones are not even fully developed until age 9 and then the bear continues growing ( not just in fat but in bone and muscle ) throughout his life. Your biggest grizzlies are normally from 13 to 15 years old. Keeps growing...same as with a crocodile.
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Post by King Kodiak on Mar 9, 2019 11:38:40 GMT -5
I'm not sure about the exact age, but boys are capable of sex younger that 14. Probably varies some by individual. A grizzly's bones are not even fully developed until age 9 and then the bear continues growing ( not just in fat but in bone and muscle ) throughout his life. Your biggest grizzlies are normally from 13 to 15 years old. Keeps growing...same as with a crocodile. Yeah, today boys are having sex at 12 or 13 years old. Not full grown man to say the least.
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Post by brobear on Mar 9, 2019 11:58:37 GMT -5
I'm not sure about the exact age, but boys are capable of sex younger that 14. Probably varies some by individual. A grizzly's bones are not even fully developed until age 9 and then the bear continues growing ( not just in fat but in bone and muscle ) throughout his life. Your biggest grizzlies are normally from 13 to 15 years old. Keeps growing...same as with a crocodile. Yeah, today boys are having sex at 12 or 13 years old. Not full grown man to say the least.So, if a 12 year old boy is physically capable of impregnating a girl, then he is the equivalent of a 5 year old grizzly. If the Nations of the World took a test to see the average weight of the men in each country, I doubt that they would include 12 year old boys. Kinda ticks me off.
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Post by King Kodiak on Mar 9, 2019 12:18:39 GMT -5
Yeah, today boys are having sex at 12 or 13 years old. Not full grown man to say the least. So, if a 12 year old boy is physically capable of impregnating a girl, then he is the equivalent of a 5 year old grizzly. If the Nations of the World took a test to see the average weight of the men in each country, I doubt that they would include 12 year old boys. Kinda ticks me off. Exacly right brobear. We just need to educate some of these fanboys a little more.
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Post by brobear on Mar 9, 2019 12:23:17 GMT -5
Probably ( IMO ) a 9 year old grizzly would be the equivalent of a boy ranging from 16 to 17 years old. We wouldn't want to include the weights of bears below 9 years old ever. I wish we could find some decent study charts of grizzlies.
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Post by brobear on Mar 11, 2019 4:14:52 GMT -5
Small ears provide lass chance of ears being grabbed by a pair of jaws. Tiny eyes provide less chance of an eye injury. Skull thick, as Lewis and Clark learned.
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Post by brobear on Mar 11, 2019 4:23:01 GMT -5
Among the multitude of dog breeds, the fighting dogs ( mostly bulldog breeds ) have a square-build ( not long or tall ) slightly bowed legs, and in-turned feet. These attributes of the bulldog breeds can also be found in the grizzly. These qualities provide excellent grappling ability.
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Post by brobear on Mar 11, 2019 5:01:38 GMT -5
First page of this topic, post #1 number #15 - Paw-Strike. A grizzly has a large scapula, superior to that of a cat. A bear has both more muscle and a greater range of motion in his forearms than a cat. But then, a grizzly has yet another advantage. Bears in general have an abbreviated shoulder hump. Cats lack this all-together. But the grizzly ( Ursus arctos ) has this feature in spades. The average boar grizzly has 30+ pounds of muscle on his shoulders which reinforces his massive bear upper-body strength. Unquestionably - Undeniably, the paw-strike of a grizzly is more devastating than that of any big cat. Speaking for the big cats, the lightning speed of the cat's paw-swipes are superior to that of a bear.
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Post by King Kodiak on Mar 11, 2019 6:11:26 GMT -5
Ok so you have found 3 more advantages for the bear, small ears, tiny eyes, and stronger paw strike. Yeah, 37 lbs of shoulder hump, which is pure muscle, will definatly give the bear the stronger paw swipe, the shoulder hump is what gives power to the front limbs.
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