Post by brobear on Dec 13, 2022 1:42:01 GMT -5
From Reply #238, here are the absolute advantages that a full-grown male brown bear has over a lion or a tiger:
1- Size and Weight: The average brown bear is larger and heavier than the average lion or tiger. The max brown bear is larger and heavier than the max lion or tiger.
2- Strength and Leverage: The brown bear has far superior over-all strength than any big cat. Because of his broader build (feet further apart) and shorter back, the brown bear has superior leverage.
3- Grappling Ability: A bear has a greater range of motion in his arms (fore-limbs).
4- Intelligence: Bears are grouped among the smartest of mammals along with the great apes, elephants, and Cetaceans. Although the measuring of animal intelligence is not a fool-proof science, many biologists and animal trainers agree.
5- Bipedal Ability: Big cats often start a fight on their hind legs delivering paw swipes. Not even a great ape has greater bipedal ability than a bear.
6- Stamina: A cat has poor stamina due to roughly 20 million years of ambush predation. A brown bear has very good stamina. Doug Peacock once observed a grizzly running 10 miles non-stop, after which he remained active.
7- Endurance to Pain and Injury: There is no way to prove who has this advantage. Any experimentation would include animal cruelty. But, from my reading of the grizzly; the brown bear certainly has my vote.
8- Paw-Strike: To my knowledge, the force of the paw-strike of the lion, the tiger, and the brown bear has never been scientifically measured. However, considering that at size-parity (equal HB length) the bear is stronger, the bear has a greater range of motion in his arms, and the brown bear in particular has a shoulder hump of muscles which reinforces his upper-body strength above that of other bear species at equal size, there remains no lingering doubt that the brown bear wins this contest.
9- Durability/Girth: Being broader in build with more fat and muscle covering his inner vitals, the bear has this one. Brown Bear's overall more robust bone structure would provide good resistance to the big Cats ' bites and paw swipes.
10- "Bulldog Build": There is a reason why among dogs, the bull-breeds are the fiercest fighters. Like a bulldog, a bear has a broad build which gives the impression of a short back. His slightly bowed legs and in-turned feet provides a superior grip (bear hug).
11- Plantigrade Posture: Being firmly planted on the ground rather than standing on his tippy-toes adds to the bear's superior stability.
12- Stability: Besides his plantigrade posture, the broad heavy build of the bear with his feet spaced apart makes him harder to knock down. We could compare a dining room table (bear) to a park bench (lion or tiger).
13- Tiny Eyes: A brown bear has relatively tiny eyes; a more difficult target.
14- Shoulder Hump (reinforces upper-body strength): this is why pound-for-pound, the brown bear is the strongest of bears.
15- Push Strength: While the big cat has superior pull strength, a bear has greater push strength.
16- Willingness to Fight Face-to-Face: This is a major advantage. Big cats are specialist predators - they are ambush predators. A big cat hates a face-to-face confrontation. This is the reason a big male tiger will most often walk away from even a female sloth bear when she musters-up the courage to stand her ground in defense. This is why a man is safe in tiger country when he wears a face mask on the back of his head. This is why lions will not attack cattle who has eyes painted onto their hind-quarters. This is the reason for the big V on the chest of the smaller Asiatic bears (sun bear, sloth bear, and moon bear).
A brown bear will go head-on against prey or adversary with no reluctance.
1- Size and Weight: The average brown bear is larger and heavier than the average lion or tiger. The max brown bear is larger and heavier than the max lion or tiger.
2- Strength and Leverage: The brown bear has far superior over-all strength than any big cat. Because of his broader build (feet further apart) and shorter back, the brown bear has superior leverage.
3- Grappling Ability: A bear has a greater range of motion in his arms (fore-limbs).
4- Intelligence: Bears are grouped among the smartest of mammals along with the great apes, elephants, and Cetaceans. Although the measuring of animal intelligence is not a fool-proof science, many biologists and animal trainers agree.
5- Bipedal Ability: Big cats often start a fight on their hind legs delivering paw swipes. Not even a great ape has greater bipedal ability than a bear.
6- Stamina: A cat has poor stamina due to roughly 20 million years of ambush predation. A brown bear has very good stamina. Doug Peacock once observed a grizzly running 10 miles non-stop, after which he remained active.
7- Endurance to Pain and Injury: There is no way to prove who has this advantage. Any experimentation would include animal cruelty. But, from my reading of the grizzly; the brown bear certainly has my vote.
8- Paw-Strike: To my knowledge, the force of the paw-strike of the lion, the tiger, and the brown bear has never been scientifically measured. However, considering that at size-parity (equal HB length) the bear is stronger, the bear has a greater range of motion in his arms, and the brown bear in particular has a shoulder hump of muscles which reinforces his upper-body strength above that of other bear species at equal size, there remains no lingering doubt that the brown bear wins this contest.
9- Durability/Girth: Being broader in build with more fat and muscle covering his inner vitals, the bear has this one. Brown Bear's overall more robust bone structure would provide good resistance to the big Cats ' bites and paw swipes.
10- "Bulldog Build": There is a reason why among dogs, the bull-breeds are the fiercest fighters. Like a bulldog, a bear has a broad build which gives the impression of a short back. His slightly bowed legs and in-turned feet provides a superior grip (bear hug).
11- Plantigrade Posture: Being firmly planted on the ground rather than standing on his tippy-toes adds to the bear's superior stability.
12- Stability: Besides his plantigrade posture, the broad heavy build of the bear with his feet spaced apart makes him harder to knock down. We could compare a dining room table (bear) to a park bench (lion or tiger).
13- Tiny Eyes: A brown bear has relatively tiny eyes; a more difficult target.
14- Shoulder Hump (reinforces upper-body strength): this is why pound-for-pound, the brown bear is the strongest of bears.
15- Push Strength: While the big cat has superior pull strength, a bear has greater push strength.
16- Willingness to Fight Face-to-Face: This is a major advantage. Big cats are specialist predators - they are ambush predators. A big cat hates a face-to-face confrontation. This is the reason a big male tiger will most often walk away from even a female sloth bear when she musters-up the courage to stand her ground in defense. This is why a man is safe in tiger country when he wears a face mask on the back of his head. This is why lions will not attack cattle who has eyes painted onto their hind-quarters. This is the reason for the big V on the chest of the smaller Asiatic bears (sun bear, sloth bear, and moon bear).
A brown bear will go head-on against prey or adversary with no reluctance.