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Post by arctozilla on Jul 20, 2022 6:46:42 GMT -5
From wildlife Ecologist - Chris Morgan
During the filming of the documentary - "Siberian tiger quest" - he spent a lot of time camping out in the Russian far east, and he came to learn that tigers prey on Brown bears!
Quote from Chris Morgan:
They also eat some surprising animals - like brown bears! In one study, one male tiger ate more brown bears than anything else! Now thats one tough carnivore! I've worked with bears for many years, so this fact really stuck with me."
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The tiger he's talking about is obviously Dale and we all know he killed in total 4 female brown bears. He also has unusual tastes for a tiger, read the second screenshot from reply #3.
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Post by arctozilla on Jul 20, 2022 6:48:39 GMT -5
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Post by arctozilla on Jul 20, 2022 7:14:25 GMT -5
"One radio-collared tiger studied by WCS ate more bears than anything else, at least during the summer months."..
Again Dale? LMAO, we already know that the largest bear he killed was a large female.
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Post by arctozilla on Jul 20, 2022 7:15:37 GMT -5
"Across all sites, tiger diet varied seasonally, with tigers consuming more bear, and less wild boar biomass during the snow-free months" "In addition, bears constituted a significantly higher proportion of tiger diet in the summer, and while not significant, badgers increased in the diet of tigers during the snow-free period as well"... "The increased predation on bears and badgers is likely due to their increased availability following emergence from hibernation and the increased vulnerability of their young, although tigers do prey on adult bears. Amur tiger predation on bear is not a new phenomenon, but our results, in addition to identifying seasonality in tiger predation of bears, also suggests that bears constitute a relatively large portion of tiger diet, particularly during the snow-free period" ... 6bb13d.pdf ... n_Far_East That study is unvalid. This is based on 770 scats which means that the tiger would have just eat the bear via scavenging. onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/1749-4877.12135So the one who lead the study was Linda Kerley, right? In fact the study is called Kerley et al. 2015. In this study they studied in South West of Primorsky Krai (in which bears comprised 4.2% of tiger's diet), Lazovskii Reserve (in which bears comprised 7.1% of tiger's diet) and Sikhote Alin Reverse (in which bears comprised 12% of tiger's diet). Those results are both indeed unvalid as they are based on tiger scats, the bear species were not determined and there's absence of data. Here's a chart from Seryodkin et al. 2018. redirect.viglink.com/?key=71fe2139a887ad501313cd8cce3053c5&subId=7226874&u=https%3A//drive.google.com/file/d/10afDwfyao6HMoeBOGhQw4RRkapammvOz/view%3Fusp%3DdrivesdkAlso the result from Sikhote Alin appears to be unrealible because it is nowhere as mentioned in the chart.
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Post by arctozilla on Jul 20, 2022 7:32:54 GMT -5
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Post by arctozilla on Jul 20, 2022 7:46:02 GMT -5
"I have been studying tiger food habits for the past 14 years and have found several bears killed and eaten by tigers. Some tigers specialize in eating bears and they will kill both Asiatic black bears and LARGER Brown bears. We radio-collared one male tiger who ate bears all summer and lost weight in the winter presumably because he couldn't find his favourite food. Recently, people have been killing bears because of an increased demand for bear feet and gall bladders, and I worry that this will effect tigers as well because bears are an important food source for tigers in summer."..
"I've seen tigers prey on all shapes and sized of black bears and up to the LARGEST and HEALTHIEST female brown bears"
That account actually contradicts ML himself. It actually says that the largest bears killed by tigers are large female brown bears. What a hypocritical moron 😂😂😂.
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Post by arctozilla on Jul 20, 2022 7:52:19 GMT -5
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Post by arctozilla on Jul 20, 2022 8:15:29 GMT -5
"Tiger hunts down, attacks and mauls a huge brown bear A Russian hunter/biologist trailed a tiger that was hunting down a huge brown bear." Well this part was left out. books.google.it/books?id=7hkLAQAAMAAJ&q=i+was+sure+i%27d+find+the+dead+bear+,+but+to+my+surprise+the+tracks+of+the+two+beasts+parted+,+the+bear+heading+for+a+nearby+for+a+nearby+hill+and+the+tiger+into+the+valley+.+besides+,+the+tiger+had+got+the+worst+of+it+,+for+the+tracks+...&dq=i+was+sure+i%27d+find+the+dead+bear+,+but+to+my+surprise+the+tracks+of+the+two+beasts+parted+,+the+bear+heading+for+a+nearby+for+a+nearby+hill+and+the+tiger+into+the+valley+.+besides+,+the+tiger+had+got+the+worst+of+it+,+for+the+tracks+...&hl=it&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjS5c7gxYf5AhWqnf0HHVjkDEAQ6AF6BAgDEAM Funny thing is that Fraud Lord automatically thinks the bear might have been killed, he doesn't even think of the possibility that the bear could have won. In fact the description says that the tiger “got the worst of it” and that “dragged his injured front paw”, meaning It was beaten down. ML gets demolished by his own accounts xd
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Post by brobear on Jul 20, 2022 23:37:13 GMT -5
And of course those adults are all females.
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Post by brobear on Jul 20, 2022 23:41:45 GMT -5
For one thing, a blanket statement like this carries no true value. 450 kg = 992 pounds. Laughable. No tiger has ever been known to have killed a bear as heavy as himself. No Amur tiger has ever been confirmed to have reached a weight of 272 kg or 600 pounds.
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Post by arctozilla on Jul 21, 2022 9:14:10 GMT -5
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Post by arctozilla on Jul 21, 2022 9:19:58 GMT -5
Account of a tigress that fought off an attacking brown bear to protect her cubs - Stories in the snow. This account is from 2008, right? Then it was an Asiatic black bear not a brown bear. Siberian Tiger Project recorded bear-tiger interactions in RFE from 1992 to 2013 and said that only two cases of tigresses killing brown bears are recorded in literature (a small denning female and a subadult, which are mentioned in Mammals of Soviet Union) if there was a recorded case of tigress killing a brown bear in 2008 then it would be mentioned here but it ain't. So that was a black bear. Here's Siberian Tiger Project data. redirect.viglink.com/?key=71fe2139a887ad501313cd8cce3053c5&subId=7220738&u=https%3A//drive.google.com/file/d/10afDwfyao6HMoeBOGhQw4RRkapammvOz/viewHere's what they have to say about tigresses hunting brown bears. The account didn't said that it was a brown bear, Fraud Lord made it up. Fraud exposed !
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Post by Montezuma on Jul 21, 2022 16:03:11 GMT -5
"There are regular observances of male tigers preying on adult Ussuri brown bears." animalsadda.com/siberian-tiger-amur-tiger-facts-pictures-habitat-behavior-diet/Unrealible Google website. ML is literally dumb like the other tiger fanboys and like them, he uses shitty and uncredible Google websites. This Google website said that the Siberian tiger is the heaviest cat when in truth Bengal tigers are larger on average.
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Post by Montezuma on Jul 21, 2022 16:10:22 GMT -5
"Tigers attack and eat grizzly bears and black bears." "Amur tigers are at the top of the food-chain in the Siberian eco-system and have no natural predators." www.bioexplorer.net/what-do-tigers-eat.html/#Diet_of_Siberian_TigerFirst of all its a Crap and unrealible Google website. It even says that "The average weight of tigers is about 700 lbs." which is wrong no cat averages that weight, not even Smilodon Populator and American lion, the largest cats that ever lived.
Also of course tigers are top of the food chain but only because Ussuri brown bears are less predatory than their North American cousins and are 90% omnivores. Beads have no natural predators too so they are also on top of food chain. Gorillas are exclusive herbivores but they have smashed leopards, which are apex predators. So that means nothing. And his this picture:-
Is also from the same Crap website which says the average 700 pound! Haha, what the Fool? And tigerfans say its made by biologists! Just imagine that how they even claim their Crap sites as biological? Lmao.
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Post by brobear on Jul 21, 2022 16:14:16 GMT -5
Quote from reply #32: "Tigers can and do kill larger brown bears." *Note: Even a 200 pound black bear is referred to as a large bear. Words such as big, large, or even huge have no meaning when talking about bears.
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Post by Montezuma on Jul 21, 2022 16:20:51 GMT -5
"Amur tigers have been reported to prey regularly on full-grown Ussuri brown bears." www.animalspot.net/siberian-tiger.htmlLMFAO, another unrealible Google website! And interestingly, he deliberately uncopied this text next to it:-"Amur tigers have been reported to prey regularly on full-grown Ussuri brown bears; however, they commonly prey upon the younger ones."Anyways, its another Crap site used by our stupid tigerfans."Amur tigers are known to kill adult brown bears." www.marwell.org.uk/animal/amur-tiger/Another unrealible Google website? LMAO.
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Post by brobear on Jul 21, 2022 16:22:41 GMT -5
Only two known cases of a tigress killing a brown bear ( both adolescent bears ). Only adult male tigers will normally confront a tiger.... adolescent or adult female brown bear. Also, the word "confront" does not mean that the tiger fights the bear face-to-face. Every bear killed by a tiger is killed from ambush. I have noticed that this word "confront" is often misused by biologists. ( reminds me of how cops misuse the word "advise" ) Also note, every black bear ambushed and killed by a tiger is smaller that the tiger.
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Post by brobear on Jul 21, 2022 16:25:38 GMT -5
"There are regular observances of male tigers preying on adult Ussuri brown bears." animalsadda.com/siberian-tiger-amur-tiger-facts-pictures-habitat-behavior-diet/Unrealible Google website. ML is literally dumb like the other tiger fanboys and like them, he uses shitty and uncredible Google websites. This Google website said that the Siberian tiger is the heaviest cat when in truth Bengal tigers are larger on average.They have to. They are desperate. What they are actually looking for does not exist.
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Post by Montezuma on Jul 21, 2022 16:28:48 GMT -5
"Bears have been known to simply give away their prey to an approaching tiger." First if all, its a Crap claim with no evidence or logic. Their is no evidence of this source since it never happens.
Brown bears are not hunters and neither are tiger kleptoparasites who remove bears from their kill. Instead its the bears who track tigers for prey and the tiger simply moves away instead of fight, including adult male tigers. Any doubt? Check out this thread showing tons evidence from biologists, note no Crap site is used as tigerboys do.
beargorillarealm.proboards.com/thread/23/bear-kleptoparasitism-over-cats
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Post by Montezuma on Jul 21, 2022 16:43:50 GMT -5
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