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Post by King Kodiak on Sept 28, 2019 11:37:16 GMT -5
Yeah, polar bears losing in captivity is no big deal. But why do you think there are only like 2 accounts of brown bears losing to tigers in captivity? Because brown bears dont overheat or get sick in captivity, so they always win.
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Post by OldGreenGrolar on Oct 27, 2019 4:38:41 GMT -5
Hi brobear, please take a look at this account and give us your comments. This was the account Big Bons talked about.
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Post by brobear on Oct 27, 2019 5:11:08 GMT -5
Big Bonns was and always will be my favorite bear enthusiast. Nice find LarsMaritimus.
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Post by OldGreenGrolar on Oct 27, 2019 8:19:05 GMT -5
Big Bonns was and always will be my favorite bear enthusiast. Nice find LarsMaritimus. Thanks. I have learned a lot from Bonns too.
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Post by OldGreenGrolar on Nov 9, 2019 1:44:20 GMT -5
A sick polar effected by the environment again. I seriously doubt the polar bear which fled at the back of the cage is a large male. Its actually two tigers vs one sick captive polar bear . I found that out after reading that account again.
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Post by King Kodiak on Nov 9, 2019 11:02:43 GMT -5
It says 2 intruders Lars, sounds like 2 bears. Anyways, yeah, overheated, weak, demented, overall sick polar bears. No wonder there are less than 5 accounts of all the other species of bears losing to tigers in captivity. Because they dont get sick like polar bears do. Its obvious, it all adds up.
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Post by OldGreenGrolar on Nov 9, 2019 16:11:46 GMT -5
'Everyone of the big cats tried to spring onto the two intruders, and two of the tigers whose lassos were not tight enough got their claws into one of the bears'. The sentence underlined was what I was referring to (a sick captive polar bear being taken down by two tigers, the other captive polar bear ran to the back of the cage). A wild polar bear or even a large male captive polar bear (fresh out of the wild) would beat any tiger.
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Post by King Kodiak on Nov 9, 2019 17:17:34 GMT -5
'Everyone of the big cats tried to spring onto the two intruders, and two of the tigers whose lassos were not tight enough got their claws into one of the bears'. The sentence underlined was what I was referring to (a sick captive polar bear being taken down by two tigers, the other captive polar bear ran to the back of the cage). A wild polar bear or even a large male captive polar bear (fresh out of the wild) would beat any tiger. Oh ok yeah, you meant that 2 tigers attacked 1 polar bear, the other polar was not involved, you are right.
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Post by OldGreenGrolar on Nov 10, 2019 1:37:14 GMT -5
/\Two tigers killing one sick undersized polar bear is unfair in favour of the striped cats. I still believe a sick polar bear has a good chance to kill a tiger one on one since a female captive polar bear named Velox killed two lions (on separate occasions probably). The accounts of captive polar bears and lions are still about 50/50.
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Post by brobear on Nov 10, 2019 2:14:09 GMT -5
Just as with other grizzlies ( yes the polar bear is genetically a brother ) polar bears are big because of their diet. In the 19th century zoos, and early 20th century, bears were not fed much meat ( cost ). Therefore there were some very small polar bears.
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Post by King Kodiak on Nov 10, 2019 7:18:11 GMT -5
/\Two tigers killing one sick undersized polar bear is unfair in favour of the striped cats. I still believe a sick polar bear has a good chance to kill a tiger one on one since a female captive polar bear named Velox killed two lions (on separate occasions probably). The accounts of captive polar bears and lions are still about 50/50. Yes you are right. Even knowing that polar bears dont function good in captivity, after the last 3 accounts i found of polar bears killing or defeating lions, its still about 50% in accounts.
domainofthebears.proboards.com/thread/509/bears-defeat-lions-accounts
Unfortunatelly, up to this day, there are still zero accounts of polar bear defeating tigers. There are like 3 or 4 of tigers winning. We already know why though.
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Post by OldGreenGrolar on Nov 11, 2019 8:00:30 GMT -5
Actually there would be one account of a captive polar bear killing a tiger if the former did not pass out due to overheating.
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Post by OldGreenGrolar on Nov 11, 2019 8:03:52 GMT -5
www.lairweb.org.nz/tiger/conflict14.htmlLooks like there is at least one account of a captive polar bear killing a 400lb tiger. It seems that person has forgot to include the polar bear's overheating tendencies.
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Post by brobear on Nov 11, 2019 8:21:29 GMT -5
Don't forget that captive polar bears of the 1800's and early 1900's were down-sized.
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Post by King Kodiak on Nov 11, 2019 18:18:01 GMT -5
www.lairweb.org.nz/tiger/conflict14.htmlLooks like there is at least one account of a captive polar bear killing a 400lb tiger. It seems that person has forgot to include the polar bear's overheating tendencies. Wow ok very nice. Never noticed this on Lairweb. Now all we need to do is find that actual account.
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Post by OldGreenGrolar on Nov 17, 2019 3:35:00 GMT -5
domainofthebears.proboards.com/thread/61/size-matters?page=2Credited to King Kodiak. According to this article, captive polar bears are generally able to instill fear in tigers and lions. Since lions are good at corporating in groups, the captive polar bears might weigh between 800 to 1000 pounds. I am even more convinced that a large wild male polar bear can displace several lions (or even a small lion pride).
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Post by BruteStrength on Nov 17, 2019 4:26:45 GMT -5
This is just more reason why bears are more superior than big cats when it comes to a fight. This is another one to add to the collection. A polar bear mauling a 400 pound tiger? I would love to see that.
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Post by King Kodiak on Nov 17, 2019 6:27:40 GMT -5
A polar bear mauling a 400 pound tiger? I would love to see that. We really need to find this account.
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Post by OldGreenGrolar on Nov 19, 2019 22:39:14 GMT -5
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Post by BruteStrength on Nov 21, 2019 5:13:13 GMT -5
A captive sick polar bear is still capable of killing healthy tigers and lions or at least instilling fear in both cats as in the account below: This shows that bears are just more superior overall.
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