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Post by brobear on Jan 10, 2020 11:14:34 GMT -5
Ahh... post #110 - WildFact: Pleistocene Big Cats v Freak Felids by WaveRiders He made the same point as I have been trying to make now for years. Quote: You believe such a tiger would be even more massive then a coastal Alaska brown bear as long as 2300-2350 mm in straight line in head-and-body length (for such a length they normally weigh less then half a ton in the Spring unless really huge in body build). Your tiger would likely look as much massive or even more massively build then him: ( pictured Van ).
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Post by King Kodiak on Jan 11, 2020 6:43:50 GMT -5
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Post by brobear on Jan 11, 2020 6:59:24 GMT -5
From the beginning; the birth of the very first grizzly in China one million years ago, he has known his greatest natural enemy, the tiger.
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Post by OldGreenGrolar on Jan 11, 2020 7:13:47 GMT -5
From the beginning; the birth of the very first grizzly in China one million years ago, he has known his greatest natural enemy, the tiger. May I know the average weight of the first male grizzly in China please?
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Post by brobear on Jan 11, 2020 7:20:26 GMT -5
From the beginning; the birth of the very first grizzly in China one million years ago, he has known his greatest natural enemy, the tiger. May I know the average weight of the first male grizzly in China please? When you locate any information on those original grizzlies of Pleistocene China, we are all anxious to see it.
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Post by brobear on Jun 29, 2020 8:28:18 GMT -5
Official average weight estimation for Ngandong tiger: 290 kilograms / 640 pounds.
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Post by OldGreenGrolar on Jul 1, 2020 23:24:06 GMT -5
Official average weight estimation for Ngandong tiger: 290 kilograms / 640 pounds. That is way larger than the average extant tiger today.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2020 9:29:17 GMT -5
Official average weight estimation for Ngandong tiger: 290 kilograms / 640 pounds. That is way larger than the average extant tiger today. And that is the average size for Smilodon populator too! Guess why still Ndangong tiger isn't considered one of the biggest cats of all time!.
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Post by King Kodiak on Jul 4, 2020 9:54:18 GMT -5
That is way larger than the average extant tiger today. And that is the average size for Smilodon populator too! Guess why still Ndangong tiger isn't considered one of the biggest cats of all time!. At this point, i dont know what to believe, different sites give different weights. Its very hard to know the weights of prehistoric animals. It is stated that both cats could reach 1040 lbs.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2020 9:56:19 GMT -5
And that is the average size for Smilodon populator too! Guess why still Ndangong tiger isn't considered one of the biggest cats of all time!. At this point, i dont know what to believe, different sites give different weights. Its very hard to know the weights of prehistoric animals. It is stated that both cats could reach 1040 lbs.Why is Ndangong tiger not as famous as cave lions and Smilodon?
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Post by King Kodiak on Jul 4, 2020 10:01:50 GMT -5
Am not so sure, maybe because very little remains have been found compared to the Smilodon.
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Post by brobear on Jul 4, 2020 10:05:46 GMT -5
Ngandong tiger: Compare the tiger's head-and-body length / shoulder height with that of a brown bear. Then compare their weights. 233 cm = 7 feet 8 inches. / 120 cm = 3 feet 11 inches.
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Post by brobear on Jul 4, 2020 10:09:03 GMT -5
We should know that a tiger needs a substantial head-and-body length advantage to be as heavy as a brown bear.
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Post by brobear on Jul 4, 2020 11:38:58 GMT -5
Amur brown bear at 211 cm = 6 feet 11 inches. / 257.7 kg = 568 pounds. This is just 9 inches shorter in length than the Ngandong tiger. Therefore, the tiger should actually weigh less than 568 pounds. At equal weight, a the tiger normally has a head-and-body length advantage of well over a foot ( 30.48 cm ).
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2020 5:34:41 GMT -5
Amur brown bear at 211 cm = 6 feet 11 inches. / 257.7 kg = 568 pounds. This is just 9 inches shorter in length than the Ngandong tiger. Therefore, the tiger should actually weigh less than 568 pounds. At equal weight, a the tiger normally has a head-and-body length advantage of well over a foot ( 30.48 cm ). Isn't the average weight of Ndangong tiger 290kgs?
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Post by brobear on Jul 7, 2020 14:01:32 GMT -5
Amur brown bear at 211 cm = 6 feet 11 inches. / 257.7 kg = 568 pounds. This is just 9 inches shorter in length than the Ngandong tiger. Therefore, the tiger should actually weigh less than 568 pounds. At equal weight, a the tiger normally has a head-and-body length advantage of well over a foot ( 30.48 cm ). Isn't the average weight of Ndangong tiger 290kgs? That sounds right. If we could find a brown bear of a similar head-and-body length to compare with this tiger, then we could determine how accurate this estimation is.
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Post by OldGreenGrolar on Sept 20, 2020 3:37:39 GMT -5
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Post by brobear on Sept 20, 2020 5:35:35 GMT -5
Official average weight estimation for Ngandong tiger: 290 kilograms / 640 pounds. Ngandong tiger would be very near weight-parity with a full-grown male Ussuri brown bear.
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Post by OldGreenGrolar on Sept 20, 2020 5:49:45 GMT -5
/\ That is true and since it is male vs male, I would vote for the male Ussuri brown bear in a fight to death although the fight will be interesting.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2020 17:32:12 GMT -5
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