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Post by brobear on Jun 12, 2021 1:12:17 GMT -5
Reply #235 - A Picture is worth a Thousand Words. Seriously, anyone who defends a lion or a tiger in a face-to-face confrontation against a full-grown boar polar bear is lying to himself and everyone else. He is a radical, juvenile, biased, fanboy whose objective is to spam with fake data and false opinions. I say false opinions because no near-adult human can possibly be that ignorant. *Same holds true for a coastal brownie.
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Post by OldGreenGrolar on Jun 12, 2021 1:45:25 GMT -5
Reply #235 - A Picture is worth a Thousand Words. Seriously, anyone who defends a lion or a tiger in a face-to-face confrontation against a full-grown boar polar bear is lying to himself and everyone else. He is a radical, juvenile, biased, fanboy whose objective is to spam with fake data and false opinions. I say false opinions because no near-adult human can possibly be that ignorant. *Same holds true for a coastal brownie. Most cat fans and enthusiast support polar bears over tigers and lions.
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Post by brobear on Jun 12, 2021 2:28:41 GMT -5
Reply #235 - A Picture is worth a Thousand Words. Seriously, anyone who defends a lion or a tiger in a face-to-face confrontation against a full-grown boar polar bear is lying to himself and everyone else. He is a radical, juvenile, biased, fanboy whose objective is to spam with fake data and false opinions. I say false opinions because no near-adult human can possibly be that ignorant. *Same holds true for a coastal brownie. Most cat fans and enthusiast support polar bears over tigers and lions. True big cat enthusiasts, those posters who love and admire the big cats while possessing the education, knowledge, and ( above all ) the maturity and the integrity to remain unbiased in their assessments have my deepest respect. Those posters are not radical fanboys. The spammers are those who spread false information all over the internet. For them, the fact that the big cats are the greatest land-based predators on Earth is not enough. They are too immature to man-up and admit that there are, among all of the mammals in the world, a few that their chosen big cat cannot defeat in a face-off.
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Post by Montezuma on Jun 12, 2021 14:55:44 GMT -5
When thinking about bears vs lion or tiger. I would always exclude polar bear, ussuri brown bear, kamchatka bear, atlas bear, claifornia grizzly, alsakan grizzly, Carpathian bear and kodiak bear from my mind against big cat because it is surely a mismatch. I mostly use grizzly bear of most weight 250kg against lion or tiger basically.
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Post by brobear on Jun 12, 2021 16:15:38 GMT -5
When thinking about bears vs lion or tiger. I would always exclude polar bear, ussuri brown bear, kamchatka bear, atlas bear, claifornia grizzly, alsakan grizzly, Carpathian bear and kodiak bear from my mind against big cat because it is surely a mismatch. I mostly use grizzly bear of most weight 250kg against lion or tiger basically. For an active debatable face-off between a lion or a tiger and a bear, generally we see the African lion and either the Amur or Bengal tiger ( one of the three biggest of the big cats ) against an average-sized brown bear subspecies; most often the grizzly.
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Post by Montezuma on Jun 12, 2021 16:17:33 GMT -5
When thinking about bears vs lion or tiger. I would always exclude polar bear, ussuri brown bear, kamchatka bear, atlas bear, claifornia grizzly, alsakan grizzly, Carpathian bear and kodiak bear from my mind against big cat because it is surely a mismatch. I mostly use grizzly bear of most weight 250kg against lion or tiger basically. For an active debatable face-off between a lion or a tiger and a bear, generally we see the African lion and either the Amur or Bengal tiger ( one of the three biggest of the big cats ) against an average-sized brown bear subspecies; most often the grizzly. And thats better comparing a lion or tiger against bears larger than grizzlies which becomes a mismatch.
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Post by brobear on Jun 12, 2021 16:29:09 GMT -5
For an active debatable face-off between a lion or a tiger and a bear, generally we see the African lion and either the Amur or Bengal tiger ( one of the three biggest of the big cats ) against an average-sized brown bear subspecies; most often the grizzly. And thats better comparing a lion or tiger against bears larger than grizzlies which becomes a mismatch. This is true; if the goal is to have an active face-off debate. But in the end, what is proven? There are pretty-much as many brown bear subspecies bigger than the grizzly as there are smaller than the grizzly - ( inland grizzly ). My point being, they use their biggest big cats to face-off against a mediocre brown bear. This fact alone stands as proof that Ursus arctos stands as the dominant Carnivoran above both Panthera leo and Panthera tigris in a one-on-one face-off. *I will add to this; I'd wager the farm on the ( mediocre ) grizzly over either of their big cats.
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Post by OldGreenGrolar on Jun 14, 2021 5:16:01 GMT -5
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Post by OldGreenGrolar on Jun 14, 2021 5:17:38 GMT -5
The polar bear appears to be female.
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Post by brobear on Jun 14, 2021 5:24:29 GMT -5
Replies #246 and #247 are no doubt the products of "trick photography".
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Post by OldGreenGrolar on Jun 14, 2021 5:35:56 GMT -5
Replies #246 and #247 are no doubt the products of "trick photography". I agree with you. Still would both animals react the same way they do on the pictures above if they 'cross paths'?
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Post by brobear on Jun 14, 2021 5:38:00 GMT -5
Replies #246 and #247 are no doubt the products of "trick photography". I agree with you. Still would both animals react the same way they do on the pictures above if they 'cross paths'? Yes, someone did a good job on that.
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Post by King Kodiak on Jun 14, 2021 6:15:27 GMT -5
Replies #246 and #247 are no doubt the products of "trick photography". I agree with you. Still would both animals react the same way they do on the pictures above if they 'cross paths'? That pic would never happen. A tiger would absolutely never face a polar bear like that. Not even a female.
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Post by OldGreenGrolar on Jun 14, 2021 6:21:38 GMT -5
I agree with you. Still would both animals react the same way they do on the pictures above if they 'cross paths'? That pic would never happen. A tiger would absolutely never face a polar bear like that. Not even a female.Still the tiger had its ears pulled back in the first picture, a sign of submission right?
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Post by King Kodiak on Jun 14, 2021 6:35:39 GMT -5
That pic would never happen. A tiger would absolutely never face a polar bear like that. Not even a female. Still the tiger had its ears pulled back in the first picture, a sign of submission right? That's right, perfect example here:
Sloth bear/tiger interaction demonstrating a sloth bear's aggressive stance toward a tiger; the bear's ears are not pulled back in a defensive posture (photograph by Julien Boul?). back the ears would potentially make the head look smaller. Another tiger/sloth bear confrontation photographed by Julien Boulé shows a sloth bear aggressively squaring off with a tiger and holding its ground (Figure 2). Once again, the tiger's ears are pulled back while the sloth bear's are not. ... www.researchgate.net/figure/Sloth-bear-tiger-interaction-demonstrating-a-sloth-bears-aggressive-stance-toward-a_fig2_315848286
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Post by OldGreenGrolar on Jun 14, 2021 7:20:44 GMT -5
I guess theoretically the polar bear in reply 246 is dominating then.
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Post by OldGreenGrolar on Oct 2, 2021 4:06:01 GMT -5
Also I would like to add, if the Ussuri brown bear was replaced by a larger polar bear, the avoidance will not be mutual. A large male polar bear will rob a Siberian tiger the same way American black bears rob cougars and sloth bears rob leopards.
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Post by theundertaker45 on Oct 15, 2021 10:18:46 GMT -5
The question in this case is "How many does it take?", not "Can the tiger do it?". I'd say one of those huge male polar bears standing 160cm tall could give a beating to two huge tigers at the same time.
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Post by OldGreenGrolar on Oct 15, 2021 10:51:42 GMT -5
Agree with you. Besides I doubt two tigers will corporate the same way two lions do.
Plus I think we support polar bear over two lions too.
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Post by OldGreenGrolar on Oct 15, 2021 10:53:25 GMT -5
theundertaker45. Are you able to make any photoshops like in reply 287 and 288?
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