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Post by brobear on Feb 14, 2019 8:13:44 GMT -5
One for the books: One-on-one, Boar Grizzly vs Deinonychus, the Terrible Claw. The raptors made famous on Jurassic Park were Deinonychus, not the turkey-sized Velociraptors. Hollywood just considered the "cooler name" - www.thoughtco.com/deinonychus-the-terrible-claw-1093783
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Post by brobear on Feb 14, 2019 16:15:41 GMT -5
Deinonychus - From 8 to 10 feet long ( including tail ) and weighing roughly 150 pounds. Its principal killing devices were large sickle-like talons 13 cm (5 inches) long on the second toe of each foot. Not so strong jaws... www.thoughtco.com/deinonychus-the-terrible-claw-1093783 Deinonychus probably used its claws to inflict deep stab wounds on its prey, perhaps withdrawing to a safe distance afterward and waiting for its dinner to bleed to death. Remember those scary, man-sized, pack-hunting Velociraptors from the first Jurassic Park movie, and their beefed-up military counterparts in Jurassic World? Well, those dinosaurs were really modeled on Deinonychus, a name that these films' producers presumably considered too hard for audiences to pronounce. (By the way, there's no chance that Deinonychus, or any other dinosaur, was smart enough to turn doorknobs, and it almost certainly didn't possess green, scaly skin, either.) Detailed studies have shown that Deinonychus had a fairly wimpy bite compared to other, larger theropod dinosaurs of the Cretaceous period, such as the orders-of-magnitude bigger Tyrannosaurus Rex and Spinosaurus--only about as powerful, in fact, as the bite of a modern alligator. This makes sense, given that this slender raptor's primary weapons were its curved hind claws and long, grasping hands, rendering extra-strong jaws superfluous from an evolutionary standpoint. One more detail that Jurassic Park and Jurassic World got wrong about Deinonychus (aka Velociraptor) was this raptor's pulse-pounding speed and agility. It turns out that Deinonychus wasn't nearly as agile as other theropod dinosaurs, such as the fleet-footed ornithomimids, or "bird mimics," though one recent analysis shows that it may have been capable of trotting at a brisk clip of six miles per hour when pursuing prey (and if that sounds slow, try doing it yourself).
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2019 2:51:12 GMT -5
Would you like me to write a bear versus dinasaur hypothesis?
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Post by brobear on Feb 16, 2019 2:54:21 GMT -5
Would you like me o write a bear versus dinasaur hypothesis? Go for it.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2019 4:01:15 GMT -5
American black bear and the smaller asian bears vs Dinasaur and gorilla:
Nobody thought that any dinasaur could live in the cold, however, scientist discovered that before the dinasaurs became extinct, the researchers and scientist were studying this particular dinasaur but then remembered the smaller asian bears and the gorillas. The scientist decided to bring back the Deinonychus' back from the dead. The process was successful and they were released into the santuary park. The researchers also decided to let Freezer and Red Hot back into the sanctuary park. The gorillas have a new enemy now but the bears, cougars, and wolves have a new competition.
The following day, a sloth bear was having a stand off with a male silverback gorilla. There was no clear winner but the gorilla did not dare engage knowing the sloth bear has claws that can cause serious damage. As the two animals were starring each other down, the sloth bear charged and the gorilla fled. As soon as the sloth bear returned to feeding on the termites, it was jumped by a pack of deininychus. The sloth bear fought back hard but he was eventually taken down. The dinasaurs actually preferred bear meat as the asian black bears and sloth bear males were wiped out easily by the packs. The sun bears being aboreal managed to hide up the trees at the sight on these dinasaurs despite the fact some of them were killed.
Freezer in the meantime killed the last and biggest male sloth bear. Red Hot tried to help himself but was chased away by Freezer. Freezer climbed up a tree and after chasing off a sun bear, fell asleep and lived for another day. Red Hot , however, was not so fortunate and was surrounded by three deinonychus. Red Hot was hungry and he put up a good fight actually killing the first dinasaur and chasing off the other two. As Red Hot was feasting, the dinasaurs returned with re enforcement and managed took down Red Hot. The next day, Freezer came across the carcase of his rival Rd Hot and feasted on the remains. Freezer saw an old silverback gorilla which has been ousted from its troop. the glacier (blue) bear immediately killed the gorilla and had a big meal.
A few hours later, there was a loud commotion nearby, the troop the gorillas which the old silverback was ousted from was confronted by a pack of deinonychus, the same pack which killed Red Hot. The silverback fought alone while the dinasaurs fought together and brought down the silverback. The glacier bear came into the scene and killed the silverback after temporarily scattering the Deinonychus pack. As Freezer proceeded to eat the dead silverback, the deinonychus proceeded to attack the bear. Freezer was an extremely powerful american black bear subspecies and put up a good fight managing to injure two lightly built deinonychus, however, a pack of 10 redatory dinasaurs was too much for him and he eventually succumbed. The remaining eight dinasaurs enjoyed their new meal. The dinasaurs have developed a taste for bear meat that they decided to enter the neighbouring santuary park where the last of the brown bears and american black bears are.
A neighbouring dinasaur pack feasted on Freezer's carcase and entered the neighbouring santuary park with their first pack too. Now two deinonychus packs have entered into grizzly territory after sniffing out the remaining american black bears. Next chapter is about to be written.
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Post by brobear on Feb 24, 2019 9:38:05 GMT -5
During the Ice Age, grizzlies throughout northern Asia, Europe, and N. America would have been very familiar with mammoths and mastodons. Also in Eurasia, the woolly rhinoceros. Any contact between these animals would have probably been caused by one accidentally blundering into the space of the other. If it ever came down to a fight, the bear has never lived who could survive this contest.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2019 20:09:51 GMT -5
I beleive a brown bear sow with cubs would have been agressive enough to keep pachyderms away. Few animals are more aggressive than a brown bear sow with cubs.
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Post by tom on Mar 1, 2019 10:08:28 GMT -5
Few animals are more aggressive than a brown bear sow with cubs. I wholeheartedly agree with this statement.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2019 8:22:11 GMT -5
American black bear and the smaller asian bears vs Dinasaur and gorilla (Part 2):
Two deinonychus packs entered the neighbouring century park and attacked the black bears making a meal out of the black bears. Even the larger and more aggressive grizzly bears were not safe. This is because the deinonychus pack is able to take down even big plant eating dinasaurs like the iguanadon and coorporate well in large packs. The grizzlies, however, will not go down without a fight especially a mother bear which will fight to death to protect her cubs.
In the neighboring century park, a huge grizzly boar with the exceptional weight of 1000 pounds ruled the roost. He is more powerful than your average grizzly and will even prey on bisons like a califonian grizzly bear would. He even takes on dangerous prey like wild boars. The deinonychus pack confronts him and a fierce fight happens.............
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Post by brobear on Mar 3, 2019 16:01:46 GMT -5
Deinonychus - From 8 to 10 feet long ( including tail ) and weighing roughly 150 pounds. Its principal killing devices were large sickle-like talons 13 cm (5 inches) long on the second toe of each foot. Not so strong jaws... www.thoughtco.com/deinonychus-the-terrible-claw-1093783 Deinonychus probably used its claws to inflict deep stab wounds on its prey, perhaps withdrawing to a safe distance afterward and waiting for its dinner to bleed to death. Remember those scary, man-sized, pack-hunting Velociraptors from the first Jurassic Park movie, and their beefed-up military counterparts in Jurassic World? Well, those dinosaurs were really modeled on Deinonychus, a name that these films' producers presumably considered too hard for audiences to pronounce. (By the way, there's no chance that Deinonychus, or any other dinosaur, was smart enough to turn doorknobs, and it almost certainly didn't possess green, scaly skin, either.) Detailed studies have shown that Deinonychus had a fairly wimpy bite compared to other, larger theropod dinosaurs of the Cretaceous period, such as the orders-of-magnitude bigger Tyrannosaurus Rex and Spinosaurus--only about as powerful, in fact, as the bite of a modern alligator. This makes sense, given that this slender raptor's primary weapons were its curved hind claws and long, grasping hands, rendering extra-strong jaws superfluous from an evolutionary standpoint. One more detail that Jurassic Park and Jurassic World got wrong about Deinonychus (aka Velociraptor) was this raptor's pulse-pounding speed and agility. It turns out that Deinonychus wasn't nearly as agile as other theropod dinosaurs, such as the fleet-footed ornithomimids, or "bird mimics," though one recent analysis shows that it may have been capable of trotting at a brisk clip of six miles per hour when pursuing prey (and if that sounds slow, try doing it yourself). Neither as fast nor as intelligent as the Jurassic Park "movie monsters". One-on-one, my wager is on the grizzly.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2019 20:53:23 GMT -5
Oh....I suppose this means the short faced bear vs Megalosaurus thread on WoA is probably not as good a matchup I though when I made it. In that case, I'll make grizzly bear vs 5-6 spotted hyenas instead
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Post by brobear on Oct 27, 2019 22:40:43 GMT -5
What dinosaur would give a grizzly a worthy challenge?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2019 1:27:53 GMT -5
^ Deinonychus is a fairly small dinosaur, about the size of a large Leopard, or a Jaguar at best. Grizzly would win because it has significant size advantage over it.
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Post by OldGreenGrolar on Oct 28, 2019 1:51:30 GMT -5
American black bear and the smaller asian bears vs Dinasaur and gorilla (Part 2): Two deinonychus packs entered the neighbouring century park and attacked the black bears making a meal out of the black bears. Even the larger and more aggressive grizzly bears were not safe. This is because the deinonychus pack is able to take down even big plant eating dinasaurs like the iguanadon and coorporate well in large packs. The grizzlies, however, will not go down without a fight especially a mother bear which will fight to death to protect her cubs. In the neighboring century park, a huge grizzly boar with the exceptional weight of 1000 pounds ruled the roost. He is more powerful than your average grizzly and will even prey on bisons like a califonian grizzly bear would. He even takes on dangerous prey like wild boars. The deinonychus pack confronts him and a fierce fight happens............. I will continue my hypothesis later on the pathology vs cryptozoology thread. Sorry guys, I forgot about it. There will also be some additions.
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Post by brobear on Oct 28, 2019 4:03:47 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2019 18:33:46 GMT -5
Err, not quite. Utahraptor is kind of overkill for a grizzly; over twice the weight and significantly more dangerous weapons. I think a good matchup is either 3-4 Deinonychus (111 kg each) or one-on-one Dilophosaurus
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Post by brobear on Oct 29, 2019 0:44:38 GMT -5
Err, not quite. Utahraptor is kind of overkill for a grizzly; over twice the weight and significantly more dangerous weapons. I think a good matchup is either 3-4 Deinonychus (111 kg each) or one-on-one Dilophosaurus Utahraptor's claim to fame is that it was by far the biggest raptor ever to walk the earth; adults measured about 25 feet from head to tail and weighed in the neighborhood of 1,000 to 2,000 pounds, compared to 200 pounds for a more typical raptor, the much later Deinonychus, not to mention the 25- or 30-pound Velociraptor. In case you were wondering, the two-ton Gigantoraptor from central Asia technically wasn't a raptor, but a large, and confusingly named​ theropod dinosaur. 1400 pound raptor vs 1400 pound Kodiak bear.
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