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Post by brobear on Sept 3, 2020 17:50:56 GMT -5
All guesswork when dealing with prehistoric animals. We can only guess at the speed, strength, agility, reflexes, energy level, etc. From the picture it is plain to see that this fight might go either way; but my money is on the bear.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2020 18:05:28 GMT -5
I'd give my vote to the grizzly at parity. Judging by the proportional size of the Hyaenodon's skull, it does not seem (to me) to be big headed enough to land a killing bite more often than not before it gets wrestled down and outgrappled. The grizzly also looks like it would have an easier time controlling the Hyaenodon's head compared to other opponents.
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Post by OldGreenGrolar on Sept 4, 2020 1:51:46 GMT -5
I bank on the grizzly bear too. It is a much better grappler and despite its weaker jaws, they can still cause damage by biting and shaking like a dog can.
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Post by OldGreenGrolar on Sept 4, 2020 1:53:53 GMT -5
The Kodiak bear will win if it gets close enough and have the advantage in grappling but it has to get pass the jaws on that theropod. A bite out of these jaws will be deadly even for a huge bear. That is weight parity.
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Post by OldGreenGrolar on Sept 4, 2020 2:01:13 GMT -5
Thinking about this the Megalosaurus is too much for any bear.
I voted for the theropod anyway.
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Post by OldGreenGrolar on Sept 4, 2020 2:05:19 GMT -5
Btw at normal weights this theropod will defeat the Kodiak bear easily.
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Post by OldGreenGrolar on Sept 4, 2020 2:07:57 GMT -5
Brobear: imagine if we had a match "Megalosaurus vs Siberian tiger", who would you think "certain" tiger fangirls would vote for? Hahahaha. At least we know the limits of the bears.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2020 7:22:02 GMT -5
Yes, if we're using average size Afrovenator stomps. That's why it's a record Kodiak, so we can have a parity match.
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Post by King Kodiak on Sept 4, 2020 7:25:04 GMT -5
Brobear: imagine if we had a match "Megalosaurus vs Siberian tiger", who would you think "certain" tiger fangirls would vote for? Hahahaha. At least we know the limits of the bears. Exactly yeah. The theropod would decimate the bear. I haven't read not even once of them saying a tiger would lose more often than not to another animal. But hey, some of these kids favour tigers over bull tusker elephants, so that should explain everything.
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Post by King Kodiak on Sept 4, 2020 7:32:05 GMT -5
Even at weight parity, just look at the comparison up top. I am a Kodiak fan, but in this case, it does not stand a chance. Bears cant beat these theropods. While the bear tries to grapple him down, the Afrovenator is already biting his skull. Mismatch.
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Post by brobear on Sept 9, 2020 3:27:24 GMT -5
Question: What is the largest dinosaur a grizzly bear can kill in your opinion? Brown bear vs Theropod dinosaur is just too weird. The body-plan of the dinosaur along with the hollow-spaces within his skeletal structure makes him ( at weight-parity ) much larger ( in reality ) than the bear. Not a good fight for a bear.
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Post by theundertaker45 on Sept 9, 2020 4:00:18 GMT -5
I'd say that the largest thing a fairly big brown bear might be able to take down is a Utahraptor or other theropods in this weight region; everything weighing ~1000kg and above is too much for any extant bear (except for the infamous 1000kg polar bear maybe).
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Post by OldGreenGrolar on Sept 10, 2020 8:03:47 GMT -5
I think the only bears that can potentially take down a 1000kg theropod will be a huge bear of similar weight which are exceptional and rare.
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Post by brobear on Sept 10, 2020 9:08:45 GMT -5
I'd say that the largest thing a fairly big brown bear might be able to take down is a Utahraptor or other theropods in this weight region; everything weighing ~1000kg and above is too much for any extant bear (except for the infamous 1000kg polar bear maybe). Time for a comparison picture: Utahraptor vs Kodiak bear.
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Post by theundertaker45 on Sept 10, 2020 9:21:20 GMT -5
brobear I'll do one when I have time :-).
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Post by brobear on Nov 13, 2020 14:17:52 GMT -5
A SyFy drawing of Indarctos vs Allosaurus. Indarctos was, in the early years of his discovery, thought to have been a massive "dinosaur-sized" bear because of the huge fossil bacula discovered.
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Post by OldGreenGrolar on Nov 14, 2020 6:19:23 GMT -5
According to some info from a poster, the allosaurus can reach eight to nine tonnes when full grown. Not a surprise as dinosaurs can grow longer than bears.
The allosaurus in the picture above is probably a sub adult.
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Post by brobear on Nov 14, 2020 6:37:29 GMT -5
According to some info from a poster, the allosaurus can reach eight to nine tonnes when full grown. Not a surprise as dinosaurs can grow longer than bears. The allosaurus in the picture above is probably a sub adult. Indarctos ( early belief ) - 3000 kg = 6,600+ pounds. Allosaurus - As with dinosaurs in general, weight estimates are debatable, and since 1980 have ranged between 1,500 kilograms (3,300 pounds), 1,000 to 4,000 kg (2,200 to 8,800 lb), and 1,010 kilograms (2,230 pounds) for modal adult weight (not maximum).
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Post by OldGreenGrolar on Jan 14, 2021 8:30:20 GMT -5
Found by Dinopithecus on Carnivora.
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Post by brobear on Jan 14, 2021 9:34:31 GMT -5
dinopedia.fandom.com/wiki/Thanos The length of Thanos has been estimated at grow as much as; 5.5 to 6.5 meters (18–21 feet), making it a medium-sized theropod. *If I were a fan of the Marvel Titan, Thanos, I would have searched for something more impressive. I believe that a big Kodiak bear could take-on Thanos.
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