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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2019 20:14:21 GMT -5
No worries, Tom, it makes better sense now. Great info on the saltwater crocordile's range.
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Post by brobear on Apr 4, 2019 4:52:11 GMT -5
Orange represents crocodile loss due to human activity, such as shooting them. And I always thought of orange as a happy color.  |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2019 5:20:52 GMT -5
Orange represents crocodile loss due to human activity, such as shooting them. And I always thought of orange as a happy color. Actually I think yellow is the happy colour and orange just like red is the angry colour. It such a shame a large powerful animal has been wiped out in certain areas. |
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Post by BruteStrength on Apr 8, 2019 3:37:00 GMT -5
I was reading about how lions kill nile crocodiles. So I have no doubt in my mind that a 900 pound bear can kill even a 1,500 pound crocodile.
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Post by King Kodiak on Apr 9, 2019 4:31:58 GMT -5
I was reading about how lions kill nile crocodiles. So I have no doubt in my mind that a 900 pound bear can kill even a 1,500 pound crocodile. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2019 5:00:52 GMT -5
A one tonne croc boss is a dangerous opponent for even a large bear let alone a tiger or lion.
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Post by brobear on Apr 9, 2019 5:37:21 GMT -5
A one tonne croc boss is a dangerous opponent for even a large bear let alone a tiger or lion. I know I have posted this previously, But I watched ( documentary ) as a one-ton crocodile, on dry ground, displaced an entire pride of lions consisting of not only females but several large males as well. The croc took the carcass without a fight. The great warrior cats do have their limitations. I do not wish to drag this out here on this topic, but lions just might react the same way with a 1,000+ pound grizzly. On this matter, we can only speculate. Should any wish to discuss this - take it to - Bears Surviving in Africa. |
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Post by King Kodiak on Aug 11, 2019 20:45:27 GMT -5
ALLIGATOR VS BLACK BEAR CUB IN FLORIDA
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Post by King Kodiak on Oct 9, 2019 19:50:20 GMT -5
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Post by BruteStrength on Oct 16, 2019 0:30:08 GMT -5
When it comes to bear vs gators/croc fights I usually back the bear most of the time.Especially a large one.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2019 17:18:57 GMT -5
Well, to be honest, my opinion is probably not one that can be shared on this site. Unless, of course, all you guys don't mind me going against the grain.
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Post by tom on Oct 16, 2019 17:25:25 GMT -5
Grizz, opinions are opinions. As long as you are stating that. Everyone has opinions and not all will be the same, perfectly ok. The difference is when you state your opinion and claim that is fact without backing it up.
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Post by tom on Oct 16, 2019 17:30:30 GMT -5
When it comes to bear vs gators/croc fights I usually back the bear most of the time.Especially a large one. I would agree mostly if the battle took place on land and if it wasn't a huge Gator or Croc. In water, the edge goes to the reptile. A large croc in the water would be too much IMO for any Bear. |
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Post by BruteStrength on Oct 16, 2019 17:33:04 GMT -5
When it comes to bear vs gators/croc fights I usually back the bear most of the time.Especially a large one. I would agree mostly if the battle took place on land and if it wasn't a huge Gator or Croc. The edge goes to the reptile. Im with you. I just think a bear vs a crocodile in water would be close to 50/50. Because we have to keep in mind that big cats have killed crocs in water before. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2019 17:44:16 GMT -5
Well, okay then.
I tend to favor crocodilians against bears (actually this is jaw based vs grappling in general) pretty strongly at parity, even on land. Here's why:
-1-2 bites to the bear's forelimb will render it useless and therefore nullify grappling. That's all that's needed to gain a good advantage
-Crocodilians are very low to the ground, which makes it hard for the bear to control its jaws
-Bears lack the agility to attack crocodiles. This isn't necessarily a bad thing in other fights (they are, after all, some of the best wrestlers in the animal kingdom) but you need very good agility to avoid a crocodilian's bite, which bears lack
-A bear's mauling strategy wouldn't work very well on the crocodilian's sheer durability; even directly attacking their vitals they take a long time to die, and the general mauling of a bear would not work to mitigate that
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Post by tom on Oct 16, 2019 17:57:20 GMT -5
Crocs have a strong bite force if not thee strongest of all. In the real world I think they would avoid each other on land. In the water, the Croc would look at a Bear as prey. In deep water especially, the Bear would have little chance against a large Croc.
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Post by tom on Oct 16, 2019 18:00:13 GMT -5
I also think familiarity would come into play. A Bear who has never seen a Gator or Croc would not know how to handle one or its inherent dangers associated with those vise like jaws.
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Post by King Kodiak on Oct 19, 2019 21:52:03 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2019 23:39:19 GMT -5
but on land, i still think its 50%. Bears are smart enough to go after the crocs soft underbelly and do alot of damage there. Care to enlighten me? As I said, their combo of weapons, durability, and low slung posture is the perfect combo for me to favor crocs at parity even on land |
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Post by King Kodiak on Oct 19, 2019 23:53:28 GMT -5
but on land, i still think its 50%. Bears are smart enough to go after the crocs soft underbelly and do alot of damage there. Care to enlighten me? As I said, their combo of weapons, durability, and low slung posture is the perfect combo for me to favor crocs at parity even on land
Brobear thinks its 50% also by the way:
domainofthebears.proboards.com/post/12975/thread
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