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Post by BruteStrength on Mar 21, 2019 23:15:45 GMT -5
I agree usually the biggest will win. But I think a badass 1600 pound kodiak can beat a 2,000 pound crocodile in this case because a bear will use it's strong musclesto subdue, bite and claw at the beast rendering it dead. Bears are tanks.
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Post by brobear on Mar 21, 2019 23:42:44 GMT -5
I agree usually the biggest will win. But I think a badass 1600 pound kodiak can beat a 2,000 pound crocodile in this case because a bear will use it's strong musclesto subdue, bite and claw at the beast rendering it dead. Bears are tanks. When we reach these proportions, I would consider this as a size-parity face-off. Thus far, only one wild Kodiak bear has ever been weighed at 1600 pounds.
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Post by BruteStrength on Mar 23, 2019 21:19:06 GMT -5
Yes and the bear was on Kodiak island. Dominant male.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2019 9:01:43 GMT -5
I think a huge croc stands is capable of killing even the largest living bear today. At parity, the bear has a slight chance on land and in water where the croc can move freely, the toothed raptile will win.
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Post by BruteStrength on Mar 27, 2019 17:34:32 GMT -5
I still favor the bear because crocs have very little range of motion on land. Now if this was in the water then I would favor the crocodile more.
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Post by brobear on Mar 28, 2019 2:05:36 GMT -5
I still favor the bear because crocs have very little range of motion on land. Now if this was in the water then I would favor the crocodile more. In water, I would say three feet ( 92 cm ) deep or more, crocodile 100%. On dry land, anything could happen ( IMO ). There were crocodiles used in the ancient Roman games. Possibly the Romans witnessed such a battle.
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Post by BruteStrength on Mar 28, 2019 14:35:39 GMT -5
On dry land I heavily favor the bear because bears have really strong limbs and are known to treat a 700 pound dumpster like a beach ball. I say bear wins this 90% of the time. Also a record size alligator was killed by a female cougar. And if a female cougar can kill a big record size alligator then surely a bear can hurt a crocodile bad.
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Post by brobear on Mar 30, 2019 5:07:03 GMT -5
On dry land I heavily favor the bear because bears have really strong limbs and are known to treat a 700 pound dumpster like a beach ball. I say bear wins this 90% of the time. Also a record size alligator was killed by a female cougar. And if a female cougar can kill a big record size alligator then surely a bear can hurt a crocodile bad. I have never heard of this happening, but if it did, the cougar would have the advantage of stealth and ambush. Deeply hooked claws gives the cat the ability to cling onto his adversary ( think velcro ). No bear is his right mind ( IMO ) is going to purposely challenge a large crocodile, neither on land nor in water. In a face-off on land: 50-50.
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Post by King Kodiak on Mar 30, 2019 10:06:07 GMT -5
On dry land I heavily favor the bear because bears have really strong limbs and are known to treat a 700 pound dumpster like a beach ball. I say bear wins this 90% of the time. Also a record size alligator was killed by a female cougar. And if a female cougar can kill a big record size alligator then surely a bear can hurt a crocodile bad. I have never heard about that event either, do you have the link or account? Anyways, like brobear said, it would have been by ambush, not head on.
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Post by King Kodiak on Mar 30, 2019 10:13:21 GMT -5
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Post by tom on Mar 30, 2019 18:51:33 GMT -5
I think a huge croc stands is capable of killing even the largest living bear today. At parity, the bear has a slight chance on land and in water where the croc can move freely, the toothed raptile will win. What part of Australia are you from. You live in the land of the Salty. Have you ever been to Australia Zoo?
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Post by BruteStrength on Mar 30, 2019 21:11:42 GMT -5
Yes this is the link I was talking about. It seems it was a male instead of a female. But noticed it says largest one reported to date. LARGE ALLIGATOR
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Post by King Kodiak on Mar 30, 2019 21:21:13 GMT -5
Yeah large alligator. But in your initial post you said it was a record size alligator. That sounded like the largest gator ever seen. But no, its the largest gator known to be killed by a PUMA, not a record size gator overall. By ambush of course, still a good kill though.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2019 5:54:11 GMT -5
I think a huge croc stands is capable of killing even the largest living bear today. At parity, the bear has a slight chance on land and in water where the croc can move freely, the toothed raptile will win. What part of Australia are you from. You live in the land of the Salty. Have you ever been to Australia Zoo? I am from Sydney, Australia and I have been to the Terronga Zoo as well as Australia Zoo in Sunshine Coast, Queensland near Beewah/ glass house mountain once. No I have not been to the land of the saltie in Cains which is way further up.
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Post by tom on Mar 31, 2019 9:22:32 GMT -5
What part of Australia are you from. You live in the land of the Salty. Have you ever been to Australia Zoo? I am from Sydney, Australia and I have been to the Terronga Zoo as well as Australia Zoo in Sunshine Coast, Queensland near Beewah/ glass house mountain once. No I have not been to the land of the saltie in Cains which is way further up. I was generalizing. I guess what I meant was you live in Australia home to the Saltie, of course this means predominately northern most tip of the Northern Territory if I'm not mistaken? But Australia zoo must have some? Wish we had one at the Minnesota Zoo.... Saltie home range In green. A living breathing dinosaur.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2019 7:08:58 GMT -5
The saltie has a wider range than expected.
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Post by BruteStrength on Apr 2, 2019 19:44:21 GMT -5
Agree saltwater crocodiles sure know how to get around.
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Post by brobear on Apr 3, 2019 3:41:39 GMT -5
Curious Tom; do you know what the orange represents?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2019 8:08:05 GMT -5
Curious Tom; do you know what the orange represents? Thats a good question. I was thinking the same.
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Post by tom on Apr 3, 2019 11:01:34 GMT -5
Curious Tom; do you know what the orange represents? Sorry I guess I should have posted both images. Looks like the orange if I understand the word extirpated to mean wiped out, no longer exist or at least in any kind of numbers.
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