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Post by Ransik on Jun 5, 2023 3:52:54 GMT -5
That's a big bear over there. Chamlid's neck girth is probably as thick as that whole tigress body. No tiger comes close to that bear level of bulkiness.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2023 8:33:05 GMT -5
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Post by brobear on Jun 9, 2023 1:54:40 GMT -5
Here is a seemingly simple quote from a highly respected poster (among big cat fans) over on WF which actually carries a lot of weight; "Indian headlines and reports are misleading often."
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Post by OldGreenGrolar on Jun 9, 2023 3:00:14 GMT -5
- I like to know the story behind this picture.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2023 12:51:09 GMT -5
- I like to know the story behind this picture. George V killed multiple bears, tigers and elephants back many years ago. This is one of the photos that was taken.
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Post by yz on Jun 24, 2023 12:11:09 GMT -5
Someone contacted batalov again :
This was his answer :
What do you guys think ?
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Post by Montezuma on Jun 24, 2023 22:36:45 GMT -5
Someone contacted batalov again : This was his answer : What do you guys think ? Actually, i would say its funny. Sometime Batalov says its "likely" meaning it could have been happened indicating his merely guess, sometime he says that Chlamid was seen in 2018 meaning the whole story is untrue and now he says that it happened. No matter what he says. He is just speculating (as evident through his words) since he has no solid proof. If he was confirmed about that case so he wouldn't say words like "likely" (maybe) or talk the whole opposite which clearly shows he isn't wholly resolute about this case. Furthermore, our logic should work here too. Tiger killed a big bear then roomed unharmed, which is impossible. How is it confirmed that the bear feaces of tiger were of the Chalmid? Its hunter pressure that made the bear to move on not the tiger as male brown bear easily live in male tiger territories (scientific reports are present), and if he left due to tiger pressure, other male bears wouldn't walk in male tiger territories that freely. So as again, this case is as ambiguous to be as untrue. When a Chlamid was seen in 2018, the case closes ifself. Further discussion is useless.
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Post by Montezuma on Jul 3, 2023 14:01:55 GMT -5
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Post by brobear on Aug 17, 2023 10:30:06 GMT -5
When a tiger is foolish enough to fight a bear.
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Post by arctozilla on Aug 17, 2023 11:57:46 GMT -5
That proves that bear fighting skills are superior to tiger fighting skils. A grappler beats a striker most of time - period. This is like WWE wrestler vs MMA fighter.
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Post by OldGreenGrolar on Aug 17, 2023 21:46:16 GMT -5
Reply 348. Where did you get the picture from?
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Post by Everyday on Aug 18, 2023 9:28:11 GMT -5
Vsevolod Sysoev, Amba (fiction story)
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Post by brobear on Aug 19, 2023 5:44:05 GMT -5
The tiger fanboys and their so-called elite fake-professors are still avoiding many facts concerning alleged unconfirmed rumors of tigers killing full-grown male brown bears. So hypocritical.
1- The W.J. Jankowski Story.... Could you just imagine the reaction bear fans would receive from big cat fans if we posted a story told by a trophy hunter who had nothing to show other than a photo of a tiger he had shot and killed? I mean, if his story was about the tiger, which he describes as being bigger that any confirmed reports, have killed and nearly consumed a huge male brown bear, yet no pictures of the bear. This story has more holes than Swiss cheese - not to mention treating a story told by a sports hunter as if he were a reliable source of information. 2- Ochkarik and Chlamida... No kill site found. No bear remains found. Hunters had recently moved into the area giving the bear Chlamida reason to leave. And, a year later, in 2018, Mantle (Chlamida) was seen again. Not a single thread of evidence supporting their ridiculous claim. Also note, nothing mentioned about any battle wounds on Ochkarik. 3- Odyr and Misha.... Fresh footprints in the snow of a large bear do not match the snow-covered frozen carcass of a small 3-year-old adolescent bear. Yet the tiger fanboys still insist that Odyr (the tiger) killed a gigantic male brown bear after a prolonged struggle and (this is hilarious) the tiger walks away without a scratch.
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Post by Montezuma on Aug 21, 2023 1:04:46 GMT -5
All these 3 accounts basically are very ambiguous and not all circumstances in all these are fully understood.
The most primary thing in all these causes are "speculations" which comes with alot of holes and coloring in it. The first account is unconfirmed as:
- its very unlikely by nature - it was merely a speculation - no else biologist ever affirmed its authenticity - no details - biologists even say that jankowski even exaggrated the tiger's size, which further antenuates the reliablity of the case
The second one is also a very skeptical one as one sensoble person can see:
- the author is also very unsure about it ("may be" is used by Batalov); and in one instance called it even fake - again, its all speculations merely based on little evidence - even the story made up sounds so absurd. - the case however completely closes when Ochlamid was seen in 2018. What remains further to explain?
The third one needs no explaination that its speculation or anything else since it all automatically turned out to be a fake report and wrong appraisal when biologists further unvestigated and found that the bear was a 3 or 4 year old indivudual called Misha or Kostolapy, not a large brown bear.
All the short coming of the details and evidence, the speculation and holes, the exaggration and later opposite results are clear to see. The reason we don't accept these isn't for our fanism, but rather the lack the consistensy of logic and detail in these accounts. Every mature minded person, of any age or favor wouldn't accept these as true. Fabrication and speculation being called as truth is found everywhere, so its not a surprise for me who worship these accounts.
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Post by OldGreenGrolar on Aug 21, 2023 4:29:34 GMT -5
Vsevolod Sysoev, Amba (fiction story)
Amba is a fictional story indeed but it might be Sysoev’s opinion written in story mode.
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Post by brobear on Aug 21, 2023 6:02:11 GMT -5
Vsevolod Sysoev, Amba (fiction story)
Amba is a fictional story indeed but it might be Sysoev’s opinion written in story mode. This nearly always holds true.
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Post by brobear on Aug 21, 2023 6:46:09 GMT -5
All these 3 accounts basically are very ambiguous and not all circumstances in all these are fully understood. The most primary thing in all these causes are "speculations" which comes with alot of holes and coloring in it. The first account is unconfirmed as: - its very unlikely by nature - it was merely a speculation - no else biologist ever affirmed its authenticity - no details - biologists even say that jankowski even exaggrated the tiger's size, which further antenuates the reliablity of the case The second one is also a very skeptical one as one sensoble person can see: - the author is also very unsure about it ("may be" is used by Batalov); and in one instance called it even fake - again, its all speculations merely based on little evidence - even the story made up sounds so absurd. - the case however completely closes when Ochlamid was seen in 2018. What remains further to explain? The third one needs no explaination that its speculation or anything else since it all automatically turned out to be a fake report and wrong appraisal when biologists further unvestigated and found that the bear was a 3 or 4 year old indivudual called Misha or Kostolapy, not a large brown bear. All the short coming of the details and evidence, the speculation and holes, the exaggration and later opposite results are clear to see. The reason we don't accept these isn't for our fanism, but rather the lack the consistensy of logic and detail in these accounts. Every mature minded person, of any age or favor wouldn't accept these as true. Fabrication and speculation being called as truth is found everywhere, so its not a surprise for me who worship these accounts. It is the fake-professors and the tiger fanboys who seem to be incapable of accepting the truth. They appear to believe that a lengthy book-length conglomeration of their twisted opinions will somehow transform unconfirmed rubbish into facts. Or, more likely, their agenda is to persuade those lacking in knowledge that the fake-news and false information they preach is the truth. They are all hypocrites. Let's make sure that we continue to stick with the confirmed facts.
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Post by Everyday on Aug 21, 2023 14:48:36 GMT -5
Amba is a fictional story indeed but it might be Sysoev’s opinion written in story mode. This nearly always holds true. Yes, it is Sysoev's opinion, based on what he has seen and heard from other people, that the big old brown bear will dominate the tigers.
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Post by skibidibopmmdada on Aug 22, 2023 10:13:25 GMT -5
Rare skibidibopmmdada sighting, just making sure to tell you guys I'm alive. Anyways how is it going? I haven't been following this for a while.
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Post by Montezuma on Aug 23, 2023 12:45:33 GMT -5
Rare skibidibopmmdada sighting, just making sure to tell you guys I'm alive. Anyways how is it going? I haven't been following this for a while. Ok. Thanks god you are alive. Lol.
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