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Post by brobear on Nov 24, 2020 5:27:03 GMT -5
If Asiatic Lions are ever given more free-roaming land, as has been discussed for decades now, then a meeting between lion and sloth bear becomes possible; even probable. ( IMO ) a pride of lions ( in Asia this means all female ) or a coalition of males ( in Asia this normally means two ) would kill a sloth bear ( should they view him as prey ). As with one single lion choosing a sloth bear, should there be a confrontation, I expect this to play out no differently than with a tiger.
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Post by OldGreenGrolar on Nov 24, 2020 6:12:10 GMT -5
Asiatic lions are less sociable than their African counterparts. While I agree with Brobear, the lion being more aggressive might stick around longer.
Generally, they might leave the sloth bear alone.
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Post by brobear on Nov 24, 2020 6:58:32 GMT -5
Asiatic lions are less sociable than their African counterparts. While I agree with Brobear, the lion being more aggressive might stick around longer. Generally, they might leave the sloth bear alone. How do we know that an Asiatic lion is more aggressive than a Bengal tiger?
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Post by brobear on Nov 24, 2020 7:03:21 GMT -5
www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-36546151 India sanctuary man-eater lions to live in captivity A pride of 18 lions in western Gujarat state were captured after three people were killed between April and May. Human remains were found in the excrement of one adult male and two young female lions, Gujarat's chief conservator AP Singh said. The male lion will be sent to a zoo, while the females will remain in captivity at a rescue centre. Mr Singh told reporters officials believed that only the male lion had actually attacked and killed humans, with the lionesses eating "leftover" meat. Six attacks on humans in the same time period were reported recently near the sanctuary, the only habitat of the Asiatic lion. The other 15 lions are free to go back into the sanctuary, but Mr Singh said they would be released into "deeper pockets" of the forest. Some experts feel that the thriving lion population in Gir is to blame for the "unusual" behaviour by the lions. Govind Patel, the former chief wildlife warden of Gujarat, told the Indian Express newspaper that Gir could accommodate only 270 lions, forcing some prides to settle outside the boundaries of the sanctuary. India's Supreme Court has ruled that Gujarat needed to relocate some of its lions to other states to avoid the possibility of disease or other disaster wiping out the entire population. However, the state has expressed reluctance and not yet complied with the order.
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Post by OldGreenGrolar on Nov 24, 2020 7:10:28 GMT -5
Asiatic lions are less sociable than their African counterparts. While I agree with Brobear, the lion being more aggressive might stick around longer. Generally, they might leave the sloth bear alone. How do we know that an Asiatic lion is more aggressive than a Bengal tiger? Not sure. I always thought both lions had the same mentality but I may be wrong. The Asiatic lion is definitely lighter than the Bengal tiger.
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Post by brobear on Nov 24, 2020 7:14:45 GMT -5
How do we know that an Asiatic lion is more aggressive than a Bengal tiger? Not sure. I always thought both lions had the same mentality but I may be wrong. The Asiatic lion is definitely lighter than the Bengal tiger. That's just it; we have these set ideas in our minds of the aggressive nature of lions. But the Asiatics have been living in an entirely different environment.
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Post by brobear on Nov 24, 2020 7:20:32 GMT -5
I suspect that the sloth bear will learn quickly that a lion is rarely alone. For this reason ( and not the hype of lion aggression ) the sloth bear will instantly flee from a lion. He will run or ( if a tree is nearby ) he will scamper up a tree.
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Post by brobear on Nov 27, 2020 6:04:03 GMT -5
wildfact.com/forum/topic-asiatic-lion-reintroduction-project?page=32 The six new sites identified for possible lion relocation in the future include: 1- Madhav National Park, Madhya Pradesh 2- Sitamata Wildlife Sanctuary, Rajasthan 3- Mukundra Hills Tiger Reserve (Darrah-jawahar Sagar), Rajasthan 4- Gandhi Sagar Wildlife Sanctuary, Madhya Pradesh 5- Kumbhalgarh Wildlife Sanctuary, Rajasthan 6- Jessore-Balaram Ambaji WLS and adjoining landscape, Gujarat
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Post by brobear on Nov 27, 2020 6:27:31 GMT -5
1- Madhav National Park, Madhya Pradesh = sloth bears. 2- Sitamata Wildlife Sanctuary, Rajasthan = sloth bears. 3- Mukundra Hills Tiger Reserve (Darrah-jawahar Sagar), Rajasthan = sloth bers / Bengal tigers. 4- Gandhi Sagar Wildlife Sanctuary, Madhya Pradesh = ? 5- Kumbhalgarh Wildlife Sanctuary, Rajasthan = sloth bears.
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Post by King Kodiak on Nov 27, 2020 10:34:18 GMT -5
The predominant animal species that inhabit the sanctuary are the deer, of which the most easily sighted are the chinkara or Indian gazelle, Rojda and sambar. In addition the Indian leopard, langur, Indian wild dog, peacock, otter, and Mugger crocodile are present.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gandhi_Sagar_Sanctuary#Flora_and_fauna
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Post by brobear on Nov 27, 2020 10:47:17 GMT -5
The predominant animal species that inhabit the sanctuary are the deer, of which the most easily sighted are the chinkara or Indian gazelle, Rojda and sambar. In addition the Indian leopard, langur, Indian wild dog, peacock, otter, and Mugger crocodile are present.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gandhi_Sagar_Sanctuary#Flora_and_fauna This does not mention the sloth bear, but their list is incomplete. Thus the question mark.
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Post by King Kodiak on Nov 27, 2020 10:50:13 GMT -5
You are absolutely right, that list was incomplete:
GANDHI SAGAR SANCTUARY
PRINCIPAL FAUNA
Leopard , Sloth Bear, Blue Bull, Chinkara , Wild Boar, Wild dog, Fox, Wild Cat, Jackal and others. It has a very good bird life and many migratory birds visit the area.
www.stripesholidays.com/gandhisagar-sanctuary
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Post by brobear on Nov 27, 2020 10:58:11 GMT -5
1- Madhav National Park, Madhya Pradesh = sloth bears. 2- Sitamata Wildlife Sanctuary, Rajasthan = sloth bears. 3- Mukundra Hills Tiger Reserve (Darrah-jawahar Sagar), Rajasthan = sloth bers / Bengal tigers. 4- Gandhi Sagar Wildlife Sanctuary, Madhya Pradesh = sloth bears. 5- Kumbhalgarh Wildlife Sanctuary, Rajasthan = sloth bears. Good find King Kodiak. Sloth bears in every location of possible lion re-introduction.
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Post by King Kodiak on Nov 27, 2020 20:41:47 GMT -5
Just another predator sloth bears would have to deal with. It would be a problem but eventually they will adapt.
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Post by brobear on Nov 30, 2020 3:45:04 GMT -5
Wherever lions are re-introduced, there will be naturalists there with cameras ready to record as much as possible as the lions adjust to their new environment. The sloth bears and other wildlife must also adjust to the change. The world will be watching. Pictured: prince of gujarat
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Post by brobear on Nov 30, 2020 3:59:18 GMT -5
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Post by OldGreenGrolar on Dec 10, 2020 7:00:52 GMT -5
How would a barren ground grizzly bear or Tibetan brown bear do against a lion?
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Post by brobear on Dec 10, 2020 7:26:37 GMT -5
How would a barren ground grizzly bear or Tibetan brown bear do against a lion? I would rather stick with bears who have in the past or who might in the future come into contact with a lion.
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Post by OldGreenGrolar on Dec 10, 2020 7:29:48 GMT -5
I am sure when wildlife was more numerous, the sloth bear would have come into contact with the Asiatic lions, the Atlas bear in contact with the North African lions, and the Eurasian brown bears with the European lions.
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Post by brobear on Dec 10, 2020 7:31:40 GMT -5
I am sure when wildlife was more numerous, the sloth bear would have come into contact with the Asiatic lions, the Atlas bear in contact with the North African lions, and the Eurasian brown bears with the European lions. European lions are quite the mystery. But the Asiatic lion lived among Syrian brown bears.
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