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Post by OldGreenGrolar on Oct 27, 2020 3:43:27 GMT -5
One thing I must say. Although lions are the boldest of the big cats, they are not gladiator dogs or roosters in terms of recklessness.
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Post by brobear on Oct 27, 2020 4:07:19 GMT -5
It seems the Beringian lion has a smaller bone structure than the cave lion just like the brown bear has a smaller bone structure than the cave bear. Reply #58 is not saying that the lions of Beringia ( which are cave lions ) had less robust bones than the cave lions in Europe. Instead, they are saying that the Beringian lions were smaller cave lions than those that remained in Europe. They were, however, larger than today's African lions.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2020 19:04:53 GMT -5
Its just the nature of the lion. Lions are known for bravery and courage. A same size predator would be no problem for a lion. Yeah; they have that reputation. This lion doesn't want to fight. He is looking for an escape. A sloth bear would stand a neaerly zero chance of killing a lion. Only a big 400+ pound boar Asiatic black bear might defeat a lion. But in the wild, the lion just might not stick around long enough to kill a bear. little black bear, probably if he was an adult he would win this fight from the video
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Post by brobear on Nov 1, 2020 19:14:38 GMT -5
Quote: little black bear, probably if he was an adult he would win this fight from the video. *The lion appears to be a young subadult as well - IMO - I'm no expert on lions.
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Post by nocapakabl on Nov 3, 2020 8:20:34 GMT -5
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Post by brobear on Nov 3, 2020 8:27:27 GMT -5
Quote: at weight parity, id give it a 50 : 50, if lion is heavier by 20-30 kg then it would win against the bear, if the bear is heavier by 20-30 kg then it would win against the lion. *My opinion exactly.
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Post by brobear on Nov 9, 2020 1:48:19 GMT -5
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Post by brobear on Nov 9, 2020 1:49:23 GMT -5
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Post by theundertaker45 on Nov 10, 2020 3:21:10 GMT -5
brobearThe bear walking towards the camera is Van; look at his ear.
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Post by theundertaker45 on Nov 10, 2020 3:43:38 GMT -5
Van's neck circumference would likely be bigger than the lion's whole chest girth.
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Post by brobear on Nov 10, 2020 5:09:40 GMT -5
Van's neck circumference would likely be bigger than the lion's whole chest girth. Van would probably come close to being triple the lion's weight. And that's not fat.
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Post by brobear on Nov 12, 2020 9:35:55 GMT -5
Lioness vs grizzly she-bear ( a popular topic ) - domainofthebears.proboards.com/thread/773/weight-collection?page=1 Average Panthera leo (species, extant, concluded out of the two present subspecies) - 371.3 pounds for males and 262.6 pounds for females (n=282 and n=267) Average fully grown female Yellowstone grizzly (7 years+) - 305 pounds. The average grizzly she-bear outweighs the lioness by roughly 42 pounds- not much. So we could call this a weight-parity face-off. Among us bear enthusiasts, we vary greatly in our opinions ( educated guesses ) of weight-parity matches when it comes to big cat vs bear. I personally will always call it a 50/50.
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Post by King Kodiak on Nov 12, 2020 10:10:15 GMT -5
Yes i agree, 42 lbs is barely a weight advantage, not decisive at all. Lioness vs female grizzly bear, at averages, i also would have it at 50%. But there are also 3 lion populations that the lioness average more than the Yellowstone female grizzly bears, still not really a weight advantage though:
Average mature Namibian/Zimbabwe lioness - 313.1/313.1 pounds. (n=37/33)
Average mature Botswana lioness - 310.9 pounds. (n=14)
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Post by brobear on Nov 23, 2020 17:56:36 GMT -5
Pride of lionesses kill a camel.
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Post by brobear on Nov 23, 2020 18:00:13 GMT -5
Asiatic lions kill domestic cows.
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Post by brobear on Nov 23, 2020 18:04:30 GMT -5
Reply #71 and reply #72 - I'm not impressed.
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Post by King Kodiak on Nov 23, 2020 19:14:37 GMT -5
Reply #71 and reply #72 - I'm not impressed. Reply #72: why? Two lions killed 6 buffaloes. Looks pretty impressive to me even though it was done by ambush, but still, 6 is alot, damn.
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Post by brobear on Nov 23, 2020 19:24:25 GMT -5
Reply #71 and reply #72 - I'm not impressed. Reply #72: why? Two lions killed 6 buffaloes. Looks pretty impressive to me even though it was done by ambush, but still, 6 is alot, damn. Domestic cattle.
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Post by King Kodiak on Nov 23, 2020 19:29:50 GMT -5
That would make the hunt less spectacular yes, but it was 6, i still think its pretty valuable.
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Post by theundertaker45 on Nov 24, 2020 5:15:19 GMT -5
Much improved comparison between the two:
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