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Post by theundertaker45 on Apr 18, 2020 6:52:14 GMT -5
I decided to create a new series of size comparisons called "Species Profiles" where I'll compare various average sized animals with humans (strict regulations and only scientific data is accepted). I started out with the European Bison (Wisent); let me know what you think. ![](https://i.imgur.com/zGN3gQu.jpg)
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Post by brobear on Apr 18, 2020 6:59:45 GMT -5
Quote: I decided to create a new series of size comparisons called Species Profiles where I'll compare various average sized animals with humans (strict regulations and only scientific data is accepted). I started out with the European Bison (Wisent); let me know what you think. *The Wisent looks great and I love this idea.
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Post by theundertaker45 on Apr 18, 2020 7:02:21 GMT -5
brobear Thank you very much, brobear, I kept myself busy studying the origins of the European bison over the past few days (as they are a sympatric with brown bears in their distribution) and I have always asked myself why they are a slightly more gracile in their build compared to the American bison; the reason being that they descended from a hybrid between the ancient steppe/woodland bison and the ancient aurochs. It's the aurochs DNA that gives them more balanced proportions. Quite interesting stuff imo.
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Post by King Kodiak on Apr 18, 2020 14:14:47 GMT -5
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Post by theundertaker45 on Apr 18, 2020 14:24:56 GMT -5
@king Kodiak Thank you, King Kodiak, I have briefly seen them but have never gone into detail, thanks for the share! I wonder if the two bulls had been killed by the same bear, do you know anything about that?
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Post by King Kodiak on Apr 18, 2020 14:39:14 GMT -5
@king Kodiak Thank you, King Kodiak, I have briefly seen them but have never gone into detail, thanks for the share! I wonder if the two bulls had been killed by the same bear, do you know anything about that? Well, all i know is what i read there, the title reads "The bear killed two bisons in the Bieszczady Mountains"
And they think so because the carcasses were not far apart.
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Post by theundertaker45 on Apr 18, 2020 14:45:58 GMT -5
I read through it again and managed to see that the bear apparently chased the bisons off a cliff. It writes:
"On the basis of a visual inspection of the incident site and animal remains, veterinarians ruled out human interference, while a bear attack was assumed as a very likely cause of the fall of the bison, which is indicated by the injuries and numerous tracks of this predator, as well as its lair. A deep gorge, to which a bison breaks legs or falls, gives the predator an advantage."
That is some advanced hunting behaviour, something completely new to me and it proves that brown bears can be cunning predators.
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Post by OldGreenGrolar on Apr 19, 2020 18:52:38 GMT -5
The bear hunting abilities is underrated. Sure they lack the agility and hunting skills of the pantherines and felines but still......
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Post by theundertaker45 on Apr 22, 2020 9:12:36 GMT -5
Comparison of the bisons; from left to right: Giant North American Bison - Ancient Bison - Steppe Bison - Wood Bison - Plains Bison - European Bison (credits to sinammonite from DeviantArt for the models)
![](https://i.imgur.com/2qfHRS2.jpg)
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Post by King Kodiak on Apr 22, 2020 18:48:50 GMT -5
Reply #291, great comparison Taker. I take it that the bison to the left is Bison latifrons which weighted up to 2000 kg (4400 lbs).
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Post by brobear on Apr 23, 2020 0:43:37 GMT -5
Notice that in both the modern European bison and the Steppe bison you can see the effects of breeding with the ancient aurochs.
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Post by theundertaker45 on Apr 23, 2020 14:16:46 GMT -5
I've decided to return back to the roots and will publish my interspecific size comparisons using the old arena background here. I hope you enjoy it!
First Comparison is between a European Bison (Wisent) and an Indian Bison (Gaur).
![](https://i.imgur.com/YSiBBW7.png)
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Post by King Kodiak on Apr 23, 2020 17:21:51 GMT -5
Great one Taker. I mean the Gaur is obviously larger and bulkier but not by much to be honest.
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Post by theundertaker45 on Apr 23, 2020 17:54:17 GMT -5
@king Kodiak
The thick fur at the chest region of the European Bison might deceive you, the gaur should have at least 450lbs over the wisent.
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Post by theundertaker45 on Apr 23, 2020 18:14:26 GMT -5
Another battle of the titans: An Indian Bison (Gaur) taking on a Wild Yak.
![](https://i.imgur.com/7d7beZc.png)
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Post by King Kodiak on Apr 23, 2020 19:12:45 GMT -5
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Post by theundertaker45 on Apr 23, 2020 19:19:02 GMT -5
Sorry about that, I'll try do it as soon as possible. ![:-X](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/lipssealed.png) It's just that these size comparisons have awakened my interest for bovids and how they compare.
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Post by King Kodiak on Apr 23, 2020 19:57:12 GMT -5
Sorry about that, I'll try do it as soon as possible. ![:-X](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/lipssealed.png) It's just that these size comparisons have awakened my interest for bovids and how they compare. Its alright mate. No rush. But we also have to prove gorilla superiority over leopards.
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Post by brobear on Apr 24, 2020 1:55:03 GMT -5
The yak is bigger than a bison. I watched a video over on wildfact.com/forum/ not so long ago of a battle between two bull yaks. Those guys are fighters!
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Post by King Kodiak on Apr 24, 2020 4:24:46 GMT -5
The yak is bigger than a bison. I watched a video over on wildfact.com/forum/ not so long ago of a battle between two bull yaks. Those guys are fighters! The Indian bison is much larger Brobear. Its the largest bovine in the world, max weight is up to 3300 lbs.
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