|
Post by brobear on Dec 5, 2021 4:59:40 GMT -5
Two adult moose killed by grizzly bears were examined. Both carcasses showed multiple puncture wounds along the mid-dorsal line from the occiput to the lumbar region. These punctures had apparently been made by the canine teeth of adult grizzlies. The underlying fascia was tom and hemorrhaged. Dorsal vertebral processes had been fractured, and muscle macerated. The head and neck of one moose was severely injured. The left orbit was compound fractured ventrally and the left ear amputated. Both grizzly-killed adult moose showed claw scratches on the skin of the lateral thorax which could be observed only by clearing the thorax of hair. Murie (1948) described results of post-mortem examinations of grizzly-killed cattle in Wyoming. He consistently noted bite marks on the dorsal back or back similar to injuries on the moose that we examined in Mount McKinley WOLF ATTACKS ON MOOSE 501 National Park. The bite wounds that Murie noted were occasionally accompanied by softissue trauma to the neck and face. pubs.aina.ucalgary.ca//arctic/Arctic31-4-499.pdf
|
|
|
Post by brobear on Dec 5, 2021 5:01:03 GMT -5
@nobo grizzly bears kill moose far more often than vice versa. A moose killing a grizzly bear is an outlier. The inland grizzly bears which hunt moose are around the same size as tigers. Since bears don't ambush, they kill moose in face to face fights, despite the moose size advantage. Tigers are better adapted for killing large herbivores than bears are (due to greater agility, experience, claws which allow them to hook on and more instinct to fight onto areas like the throat).
|
|
|
Post by OldGreenGrolar on Dec 5, 2021 7:54:18 GMT -5
Grizzlies can be potentially good hunters too.
|
|
|
Post by brobear on Dec 5, 2021 22:22:38 GMT -5
www.theanimalfiles.com/mammals/hoofed_mammals/moose.html Subspecies of the Moose include: European Elk or Eurasian Elk (Alces alces alces) This subspecies can be found in Finland, Sweden, Norway, Estonia, Russia, Poland, Lithuania, Belarus, Czech Republic, Slovakia and northern Ukraine. Yakutia Moose or Mid-Siberian Moose (Alces alces pfizenmayeri) This is the most common Moose in Asia and it can be found in eastern Siberia, Mongolia and Manchuria. Ussurian or Amur Moose (Alces alces cameloides) This is the smallest of the subspecies and it can be found in eastern Russia and north eastern China. Chukotka Moose or East Siberian Moose (Alces alces burulini) This is the largest subspecies in Europe and Asia and it can be found in eastern Siberia. Eastern Moose (Alces alces americana) This subspecies inhabits eastern Canada and Northeastern USA. Western Moose (Alces alces andersoni) This subspecies can be found in western Canada and Northwestern USA. Alaskan Moose (Alces alces gigas) This is the largest subspecies in North America and it can be found in Alaska and western Yukon. It is also known as Alaska Moose or Giant Moose. Shiras Moose or Yellowstone Moose (Alces alces shirasi) This is the smallest subspecies in North America and it can be found in Wyoming, Idaho, Utah, Colorado, Washington, Oregon and Montana. Caucasian Moose (Alces alces caucasicus) This subspecies is extinct due to loss of habitat and over hunting *Interesting Facts In North America this species is known as a Moose, but in Europe it is known as the Eurasian Elk. The Moose is the largest member of the deer family.
|
|
|
Post by brobear on Dec 5, 2021 22:26:36 GMT -5
Am I missing something? From what I'm finding concerning the normal diet of the Amur tiger, he has very little interest in the moose. Also note, the Ussurian or Amur Moose is the smallest moose subspecies. Any thoughts?
|
|
|
Post by brobear on Dec 16, 2021 10:46:25 GMT -5
source: Miquelle, DALE G., et al. "Food habits of Amur tigers in Sikhote-Alin Zapovednik and the Russian Far East, and implications for conservation." Journal of Wildlife Research 1.2 (1996): 138-147. Here is the distribution of Tiger prey:
|
|
|
Post by brobear on Dec 16, 2021 10:49:37 GMT -5
Reply #65 - Notice that bears are not mentioned ( so rarely killed ) and as for moose, does a tiger ever ambush an adult moose?
|
|
|
Post by brobear on May 10, 2022 15:28:24 GMT -5
Has any of our members ever found an actual account of a tiger killing a moose? Sometimes, but not often, when I google tiger and read a list of what tigers eat, sometimes the moose is on this list. But then, sometimes elephant and rhinoceros are also mentioned. When I look at actual biologist studies of the Amur tiger's diet, I never see 'moose' listed. Nor 'elk' as in Asia, what we in America call a moose, they call an elk. www.diana-hunting.com/game/moose-asia Moose (Asia) Scientific Name: Alces alces Subspecies: In the Holarctic-Asian region, 4 of the total of 8 subspecies occur: 1. European Moose (Alces a. alces): Western Sibiria from the Ural to Jenissei, (Europe). 2. Jakutian Moose (Alces a. pfizenmayeri): From Jenissei east through Sibiria, south to the Stanovoi mountains. 3. Kamtchatka-Moose (Alces a. buturlini): Russia: The eastern parts of eastern Sibiria between the rivers Indigirka and Anadyr, Kamtchatka. (Has only recently acquired status as individual subspecies. Used to belong to pfizenmayeri.) 4. Ussurian Moose (Alces a. cameloides): The Amur-Ussuri region, northern Mongolia, northern Manchuria, north to the Stanovoy mountains. Habitat: Open, often tundra like regions of the north of this region. Forests with marshes and lakes further south. Description: Largest deer weighing up to 800 kg and measuring up to 2,30 m over the shoulder. It reaches a total body length of 3,50 m. General colour dark brown, with lighter coloured legs. Characteristic head and muzzle. The antlers are often palmate with several points forming the outer edge of the palm. The antlers may weigh up to 42,5 kg.
|
|
|
Post by brobear on Jun 13, 2022 6:04:09 GMT -5
Credits to Sanju: LARGEST: (Extant) The moose (North America) or elk (Eurasia-don't confuse with wapiti) Alces alces is a member of the New World deer subfamily and is the largest and heaviest extant species in the Deer family. (especially, Alces alces buturlini--Chukotka moose or east Siberian moose matches, and maybe even surpasses, the Alaskan moose (A. a. gigas)--820 kg (1,808 lb), as the largest of the races and thus the largest race of deer alive. Bulls can grow up to 2.15 m (7.1 ft) tall and weigh between 500 and 725 kg (1,102 and 1,598 lb); females are somewhat smaller.
|
|
|
Post by brobear on Jun 13, 2022 6:08:32 GMT -5
Grizzly Years by Doug peacock. The Bitter Creek Grizzly was the only bear I knew of in Yellowstone that regularly killed moose and bison. He attacked younger animals - ambushed them from nearby timber, then dragged them back into the trees, sometimes covering the carcasses with dirt and sticks. I had seen this too many times to believe that these animals had all conveniently died during the winter. His was not the usual pattern of predation for grizzlies. In 1977, when I first crossed paths with the Bitter Creek Griz, a biologist had found another grizzly who had passed up many carcasses for live elk: The bear liked to kill what he ate. A few bears learn to kill healthy adult elk during all seasons, and cow-struck bulls during the rut were especially stupid and approachable. Yellowstone grizzlies also prey on elk calves, as they do caribou calves in Alaska, and moose calves in both places. Adult moose were generally a match for a grizzly except when snows were deep and lightly crusted: grizzlies can walk lightly over a thin crust, distributing their weight evenly on their plantigrade feet, and they glide over the top of deep drifts in which moose wallow.
I thought that grizzly predation was not as common here as it had been a decade or more ago. The predatory segment of the population had probably been killed off selectively, and continues to be culled as they were born into it, because predatory bears are bolder and more visible. The Bitter Creek Griz was a holdover from the days when bears could afford to be bold and aggressive. Which served, as it always had, an important ecological function vital to survival of the species.
|
|
|
Post by brobear on Feb 6, 2023 8:18:27 GMT -5
Quote from reply #69 directly above: "Adult moose were generally a match for a grizzly except when snows were deep and lightly crusted: grizzlies can walk lightly over a thin crust, distributing their weight evenly on their plantigrade feet, and they glide over the top of deep drifts in which moose wallow." *A full-antlered bull moose can probably be as dangerous a prey as any living bull bovine. He is not an adversary that even a big "Boss of the Woods" grizzly would want to go face-to-face with. Other than in deep snow, a big boar grizzly might ambush a bull moose (maybe). Yes, a brown bear is very capable of setting-up an ambush. Also, I was thinking, moose are very aquatic (in comparison with most deer). A big boar grizzly just might attack a bull moose when he is belly-deep in water. The kicks from the long powerful legs of the moose would be less effective.
|
|
|
Post by brobear on Feb 22, 2023 6:00:42 GMT -5
Polar Bear Caught on Camera with Eerie Musk Ox Horn (Photo) www.livescience.com/44459-arctic-polar-bear-musk-ox-photo.html In the blue light of the Russian Arctic, scientists captured a rare photo of a polar bear approaching a musk ox carcass Thursday (March 27). Joel Berger, a senior scientist with the Wildlife Conservation Society and chair of wildlife biology at the University of Montana, posted the picture on Twitter from eastern Russia's remote Wrangel Island. Located 300 miles (483 kilometers) north of the Arctic Circle, Wrangel Island boasts the highest biodiversity in the Arctic, including the biggest population of Pacific walruses and the greatest density of polar bear dens. But this isolated rocky haven is perhaps most famous for its extinct inhabitants. While most woolly mammoths died out in Siberia about 10,000 years ago, dwarf mammoths survived in Wrangel Island until 3,700 years ago. (At that time, the Great Pyramid of Giza had already been built in Egypt and Hammurabi's Code had been etched into stone in Babylon.) Berger is currently on Wrangel Island with a team of Russian scientists as part of an expedition to study how musk oxen living in this remote refuge compare with those in the warming Alaskan Arctic, Scott Smith, a spokesman for the WCS, told Live Science in an email. Musk oxen today are only native to Canada and Greenland, but they were once more widespread across the Arctic. Twenty musk oxen were introduced to Wrangel Island in 1975. Today, their population has stabilized at around 900 individuals, according to the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration's 2013 Arctic Report Card. Conservationists have also established populations of musk oxen in Alaska, where the species disappeared by the 1890s. Now, more than 4,200 musk oxen live in five different Alaskan regions, though not all of those populations are growing, NOAA officials say. "Several factors, including predation by grizzly bears, hunting, access to winter habitats, winters with freezing rain or deep snow, nutritional deficiencies and disease may be affecting recruitment, survival and distribution," the Arctic Report Card reads. "Entire groups of 30-50 animals have died during spring floods, storm surges and lake ice break-up."
|
|
|
Post by OldGreenGrolar on Feb 22, 2023 7:56:40 GMT -5
/\ This picture reminds me of my fictional planet Sapphire. Back to topic, it seems polar bears interact with musk oxens less than arctic wolves do.
|
|
|
Post by arctozilla on Jul 13, 2023 12:19:28 GMT -5
|
|
|
Post by brobear on Aug 31, 2023 2:20:23 GMT -5
GRIZZLY BEAR vs MOOSE - The Honest Truth
|
|
|
Post by Montezuma on Nov 9, 2023 9:15:12 GMT -5
I don't know if it was posted but anyways i am doing. Grizzly bear hunts numerous muskox calves in a single attempt.
|
|
|
Post by OldGreenGrolar on Nov 27, 2023 4:38:55 GMT -5
If a grizzly can hunt musk opens so can the larger and stronger polar bear. The letter spends its majority of its time on ice.
|
|