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Post by King Kodiak on Nov 1, 2020 12:07:35 GMT -5
King Kodiak The record skull from brobear's list has a score of ~30.75 inches; the largest skull from the collection that I have posted would come in at ~30.86 inches. Correct. The skull you posted has the overall largest score for modern bears. The skull brobear posted which is from Boone and Crocket has the greatest length.
Your skull:
Alaska Peninsula grizzly:
Length-18.62 inches (473 mm) Width- 12.24 inches (311 mm)
SCORE: 30.86 inches
Brobear's skull (Boone and Crocket)
Alaska Peninsula grizzly:
Length-19 13/16 inches (503 mm) Width- 10 10/16 inches (270 mm)
SCORE: 30 7/16 inches (30.43 inches)
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Post by theundertaker45 on Nov 1, 2020 13:24:19 GMT -5
From what I see on the list that brobear has posted, the brown bears on Kodiak island have slightly more robust skulls than other populations (very slightly though). Their length/width-ratios seem to be very solid.
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Nov 1, 2020 13:32:56 GMT -5
Post by King Kodiak on Nov 1, 2020 13:32:56 GMT -5
From what I see on the list that brobear has posted, the brown bears on Kodiak island have slightly more robust skulls than other populations (very slightly though). Their length/width-ratios seem to be very solid. Yes thats definitely true. anyhow, the greatest width does come from the record Kodiak bear at 12 13/16 inches (325 mm).
domainofthebears.proboards.com/post/36012/thread
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Post by brobear on Nov 1, 2020 13:37:53 GMT -5
So far, the skull with the greatest length in history belongs to the cave bear (Ursus Ingressus/Ursus Kanivetz) with 57.14 cm (571.4 mm)
Skull Length: 57.14 cm = 22.50 inches.
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Nov 1, 2020 13:51:33 GMT -5
Post by King Kodiak on Nov 1, 2020 13:51:33 GMT -5
That is 571.4 mm. Compare that to the record length from Boone and Crocket of 503 mm. Those Cave bears were monsters.
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Nov 1, 2020 14:09:01 GMT -5
Post by brobear on Nov 1, 2020 14:09:01 GMT -5
That is 571.4 mm. Compare that to the record length from Boone and Crocket of 503 mm. Those Cave bears were monsters. From our cave bear section: domainofthebears.proboards.com/thread/896/size *Reply #12: Quote, "Vereshchagin and Baryshnikov (1984), on the other hand, suggested that large cave bear males may have reached, or even exceeded, body masses of no less than 1 000 kg." 1,000 kg = 2,205 pounds. So, both the cave bear and the steppe brown bear may have reached weights within the range of Arctodus simus ( according to some paleontologist ).
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Post by theundertaker45 on Nov 1, 2020 14:13:35 GMT -5
Ursus ingressus wasn't even the largest species of prehistoric bear; Ursus priscus (steppe brown bear) might have had skulls in excess of 600mm (greatest length).
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Post by King Kodiak on Nov 1, 2020 15:01:20 GMT -5
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Nov 1, 2020 15:01:58 GMT -5
Post by brobear on Nov 1, 2020 15:01:58 GMT -5
Ursus ingressus wasn't even the largest species of prehistoric bear; Ursus priscus (steppe brown bear) might have had skulls in excess of 600mm (greatest length). 600mm = 600 millimeters is equal to 23.62 inches. I'm old-school American and so must always refer to: www.sciencemadesimple.com/
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Nov 1, 2020 15:04:48 GMT -5
Post by brobear on Nov 1, 2020 15:04:48 GMT -5
Reply #85 chart. Can any of this be explained?
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Nov 1, 2020 15:09:20 GMT -5
Post by King Kodiak on Nov 1, 2020 15:09:20 GMT -5
Reply #85 chart. Can any of this be explained? Its just the measurements of skulls from Ursus Arctos Priscus and Ursus arctos Kamiensis. I think there are only 5 different specimens though, that chart is kind of confusing.
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Nov 1, 2020 17:31:51 GMT -5
Post by brobear on Nov 1, 2020 17:31:51 GMT -5
I can find nothing ( on google ) concerning U.a. kamiensis.
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Nov 1, 2020 17:51:15 GMT -5
Post by King Kodiak on Nov 1, 2020 17:51:15 GMT -5
I can find nothing ( on google ) concerning U.a. kamiensis. Maybe that subspecies has been removed. In the chart (top right) it says it was from European Russia. The only subspecies in European Russia right now is Ursus arctos arctos.
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Nov 1, 2020 18:09:35 GMT -5
Post by brobear on Nov 1, 2020 18:09:35 GMT -5
I can find nothing ( on google ) concerning U.a. kamiensis. Maybe that subspecies has been removed. In the chart (top right) it says it was from European Russia. The only subspecies in European Russia right now is Ursus arctos arctos.Yeah, the European brown bear, like our American brown bear has had, over time, buku subspecies which have mostly been expelled. This is true.
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Post by King Kodiak on Nov 1, 2020 18:51:40 GMT -5
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Post by theundertaker45 on Nov 12, 2020 6:02:41 GMT -5
American Lion - Brown Bear (Longest Skulls; measurements would be 482.6mm for the American lion and 503.2mm for the brown bear)
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Nov 12, 2020 13:07:06 GMT -5
Post by King Kodiak on Nov 12, 2020 13:07:06 GMT -5
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Post by theundertaker45 on Nov 12, 2020 13:10:29 GMT -5
King KodiakI made it because I was curious how the largest modern brown bears would compare to one of the biggest cats ever in this regard and I have to say that I'm not disappointed.
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Post by brobear on Nov 12, 2020 13:12:50 GMT -5
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Post by King Kodiak on Nov 12, 2020 13:13:12 GMT -5
King Kodiak I made it because I was curious how the largest modern brown bears would compare to one of the biggest cats ever in this regard and I have to say that I'm not disappointed. I see. But the result does not surprise me either.
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