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Post by Polar on Jan 4, 2019 17:14:32 GMT -5
Yeah, even a heavy-ended sun bear would have a great chance against a snow or regular leopard. Slightly heavier, deadlier claws, more strength, thicker skin, better grappling ability...
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Post by King Kodiak on Feb 23, 2019 13:27:20 GMT -5
SLOTH BEARS OFTEN CHASE LEOPARDS AWAY FROM THEIR KILLS.
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Post by brobear on Feb 26, 2019 4:09:33 GMT -5
defenders.org/black-bear/basic-facts Height: 2-3 feet (.6-.9m) at shoulders Length: 4-7 feet (1.2-2m) from nose to tip of tail Weight: Males weigh an average of 150-300 lbs (68-158 kg), females are smaller. Exceptionally large males have been known to weigh 500-600 lbs (227-272 kg). www.livescience.com/27301-jaguars.html Males are heavier than females. Males can weigh from 126 to 250 lbs. (57-113 kilograms), while females weigh 100 to 200 lbs. (45-90 kg), according to the Denver Zoo. *Note: 250 pound black bear vs 250 pounds jaguar.
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Post by King Kodiak on Feb 26, 2019 4:16:28 GMT -5
250 lb black bear vs 250 lb jaguar, face to face, same outcome. Black bear takes it most times.
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Post by brobear on Feb 26, 2019 4:32:27 GMT -5
250 lb black bear vs 250 lb jaguar, face to face, same outcome. Black bear takes it most times. A black bear will displace a cougar from a carcass. But very likely the bears that do this have a considerable size advantage. We must remember that the bear is seeking food and not a fight. It is doubtful that a bear would attempt to displace a cat as big as he is. If by some strange circumstance this did happen, would a jaguar stand his ground and defend a carcass from a similar size bear? Would a jaguar go head-to-head with a black bear? I doubt it. In South America, there has been found no evidence and no historical record of a jaguar or puma ever killing an adult bear ( Andean bear ). The big cats will only take an occasional cub, and this is uncommon. Probably the only real chance of such a fight would be in an arranged pit-fight ( or cage fight ). My wager would be: the bear successfully defends himself and neither animal killed.
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Post by King Kodiak on Feb 26, 2019 4:44:49 GMT -5
At such low weights (250 lbs), you might be right, they might not likely kill each other. But the black bear will overpower the jaguar, thats for sure. Especially inside a cage where the jaguar cant escape. Even if the jaguar does not die, the bear still wins the fight.
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Post by brobear on Feb 26, 2019 6:32:39 GMT -5
At such low weights (250 lbs), you might be right, they might not likely kill each other. But the black bear will overpower the jaguar, thats for sure. Especially inside a cage where the jaguar cant escape. Even if the jaguar does not die, the bear still wins the fight. If the cage is small; someone will die. I'm picturing a bigger area. But in reality; I despise a pit/cage fight. In a pit or in a cage, you do not see the true nature of the beast.
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Post by King Kodiak on Feb 26, 2019 7:07:01 GMT -5
At such low weights (250 lbs), you might be right, they might not likely kill each other. But the black bear will overpower the jaguar, thats for sure. Especially inside a cage where the jaguar cant escape. Even if the jaguar does not die, the bear still wins the fight. If the cage is small; someone will die. I'm picturing a bigger area. But in reality; I despise a pit/cage fight. In a pit or in a cage, you do not see the true nature of the beast. Big or small cage, does not really Matter, blacky wins. Killing the Jaguar or just beating it with swipes or overpowering it. Wild specimens or captive specimens, the cat loses in a head on battle.
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Post by brobear on Feb 26, 2019 12:51:05 GMT -5
If the cage is small; someone will die. I'm picturing a bigger area. But in reality; I despise a pit/cage fight. In a pit or in a cage, you do not see the true nature of the beast. Big or small cage, does not really Matter, blacky wins. Killing the Jaguar or just beating it with swipes or overpowering it. Wild specimens or captive specimens, the cat loses in a head on battle. Where there is room to put distance between himself and the bear, the cat will do so. The bigger the cage the less chance of a killing. Remember the fight between a lioness and an Asiatic black bear? Roomy cage. The lion spent most of her time looking for an exit. She would spar with the bear, then retreat - several times. The bear stood his ground the entire duration. There was no killing. Of course, the big cat fan-boys saw this fight through their rose-colored glasses. They ( in their fantasy world ) saw a lioness "destroying" a bear.
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Post by King Kodiak on Feb 26, 2019 17:01:05 GMT -5
Exactly brobear, the larger the cage, the more the jaguar will just run around and escape, so even if the black bear only gets some wipes, or bites, and then the jaguar starts running around, that would be a win for the bear. Yeah i remember that video, nothing special.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2019 3:12:32 GMT -5
I have discovered no record of any cat ever killing a mature panda bear. I second that. The panda's low metabolism doesn't make it any less dangerous to even the largest male leopards.
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Post by King Kodiak on Mar 18, 2019 17:23:11 GMT -5
I have discovered no record of any cat ever killing a mature panda bear. I second that. The panda's low metabolism doesn't make it any less dangerous to even the largest male leopards. Leopards are the worst face to face fighters of the 5 largest big cats in the world. IMO.
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Post by brobear on Mar 18, 2019 20:21:52 GMT -5
1- leopard / 2- puma / 3- jaguar / 4- lion / 5- tiger. All but the puma ( cougar ) is a pantherine.
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Post by King Kodiak on Mar 18, 2019 20:46:17 GMT -5
1- leopard / 2- puma / 3- jaguar / 4- lion / 5- tiger. All but the puma ( cougar ) is a pantherine. What list is this brobear? I dont get it.
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Post by brobear on Mar 18, 2019 20:48:42 GMT -5
1- leopard / 2- puma / 3- jaguar / 4- lion / 5- tiger. All but the puma ( cougar ) is a pantherine. What list is this brobear? I dont get it.the five biggest cats you mentioned, from left to right smallest to largest.
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Post by King Kodiak on Mar 18, 2019 20:55:34 GMT -5
What list is this brobear? I dont get it. the five biggest cats you mentioned, from left to right smallest to largest. Yup, these are the 5 largest Felidae in the world. This is what the fuzz is all about in the forums.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2019 9:00:50 GMT -5
How can a leopard beat a giant panda,the weight difference between the two is just too much (the giant panda is much bigger a heavier).
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Post by King Kodiak on Mar 20, 2019 9:04:44 GMT -5
How can a leopard beat a giant panda,the weight difference between the two is just too much (the giant panda is much bigger a heavier). A leopard cant beat NOBODY in a fair face to face battle.
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Post by BruteStrength on Mar 20, 2019 10:44:51 GMT -5
The head size on a panda is incredible. I just can't see a leopard beating a adult male panda in a face to face battle.
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Post by King Kodiak on Mar 20, 2019 11:14:48 GMT -5
The head size on a panda is incredible. I just can't see a leopard beating a adult male panda in a face to face battle. Panda bears even have larger skulls than tigers. We have the comparissons posted somewhere.
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