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Post by OldGreenGrolar on Oct 2, 2021 5:32:53 GMT -5
Reply 251. The female bear was still a cub but it is impressive for the leopard nevertheless. Welcome @shortridge.
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Post by brobear on Oct 2, 2021 5:45:17 GMT -5
Quote; "Here are two cases of a Persian leopard possibly looking to eliminate a future threat:" *This is possible, but Asiatic black bears are primarily vegetarian, although they will scavenge a carcass. Another possibility would be that the leopard is looking for bear cubs. Perhaps he had discovered some there in times past. Edit and add: I wouldn't think that the leopard would wish to go face-to-face with an adult bear in this confined space.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2021 6:02:42 GMT -5
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Post by brobear on Jan 23, 2022 5:52:53 GMT -5
Here are two cases of a Persian leopard possibly looking to eliminate a future threat: Asiatic black bears consume some meat, but lean more towards a vegetarian diet. The leopard is probably interested in food. Perhaps bear cubs.
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Post by brobear on May 9, 2022 3:11:24 GMT -5
This would be an interesting face-off if it were possible in the wild.
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Post by brobear on May 9, 2022 3:12:41 GMT -5
Reply #262 above: I would wager on the bear.
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Post by theundertaker45 on May 9, 2022 3:16:17 GMT -5
The sloth bear has a weight advantage of roughly 40kg or 90lbs; therefore I know who I'd place my bet on. I don't think the jaguar could seize the sloth bear and apply a skull bite the same way they do to caimans and tapirs when ambushing them.
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Post by Montezuma on May 9, 2022 3:55:38 GMT -5
Reply #262 above: I would wager on the bear. Sloth bears sheer aggression, strength and stamina makes my points 8/10 times for bear.
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Post by Montezuma on May 12, 2022 0:04:12 GMT -5
Here in this recent video, a hyena is being showed to robb a leopard's kill of small warthog . It is to be noted that the cat does not defended its kill fiercely and then simply gave away the kill to the stronger hyena. This is the nature of the big cat. Simply surrender its kill to stronger predator in dispute. There are many more videos like these on youtube hyenas dominating kill disputes from leopard. The reason of posting this video in this thread is to show that with strength advantage, the hyena simply kleptoparasited on the cowardly leopard's kill. It is a very good evidence to show that how would a sloth bear or black bear would easily usurp the same leopard being more aggressive, larger, durable abd stronger than the hyena. In most bear cases, however, the leopard does not even take few seconds to defend its kill, it just simply runs away when seeing the bear approaching to its kill. Here is the video:-
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Post by brobear on May 12, 2022 2:12:25 GMT -5
Quote: Here in this recent video, a hyena is being showed to robb a leopard's kill of small warthog . It is to be noted that the cat does not defended its kill fiercely and then simply gave away the kill to the stronger hyena. This is the nature of the big cat. *Simply the nature of the cat. This has been exactly my argument for the last several years. Just as the leopard relinquished his kill to the hyena, another video shows a leopard walk away from his kill when a sloth bear simply walked over and took it. In America, a cougar will just as easily walk away from his kill when a black bear shows up. This is natural inherited cat behavior. The size ratio between the leopard and the sloth bear or the cougar and the black bear are roughly the same as between a tiger and a brown bear. When a biologist observes a kill site and finds both tiger tracks and bear tracks, but sign of a struggle, he can only conclude that the tiger and the bear are feeding at different times. Foot prints cannot tell of the tiger seeing the bear walking his way and so relinquishing his kill. I believe that tigers of all sexes and sizes are displaced by adult male brown bears far more often than is known about.
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Post by brobear on May 26, 2022 2:02:02 GMT -5
LAND OF THE LEOPARD NATIONAL PARK IS ESTABLISHED 10 april 2012 By resolution of the government of the Russian Federation, the Land of the Leopard National Park was established on 262 thousand hectares in the southwest of Primorsky Province.
This single protected territory has the capacity to ensure the survival of at least 50 Far Eastern leopards and covers 60% of its remaining habitats. And most importantly, the park includes all breeding grounds, which leopards use from generation to generation. The national park will also become home to 10 Amur tigers that are key for Changbaishan population in China and a valuable Korean pine forest.
“In the past 20 years, Far Eastern leopard habitat has almost halved, and the population has become critically low and numbers just 30 animals”, says WWF-Russia CEO Igor Chestin. “We are happy that one of the key measures listed in the official Far Eastern Leopard Conservation Strategy – creation of a unified reserve for its conservation - is implemented”.
'Creation of the national park implied a lot of organizational problems, and only active and fruitful cooperation of Primorsky Province government, Ministry of natural resources and environment of the Russian Federation, and other state agencies helped implement Prime Minister’s order in such short time”, says Igor Chestin. “In 2001, WWF began a phased program for the establishment of a unified protected territory as the primary condition for the survival of the Far Eastern leopard”, says director of the Amur branch of WWF Yuri Darman. “Our public campaign ‘Save each of the survivors’ and documentary ‘Throwing out a challenge’ allowed to receive support of government leaders at the highest level. Vice-minister of the Russian Federation Sergey Ivanov took on personal responsibility for the conservation of the Far Eastern leopard and the establishment of the national park. Today we’d like to offer him a warm ‘thank you’ from man and beast alike!”
The park will have a joint administration with the Kedrovaya Pad strict nature reserve. The government decision is accompanied by significant investments – 40 million rubles (about $1.3 million) are designated to the annual maintenance of the national park, and around half a billion rubles ($16.6 million) are designated for the development of its infrastructure.
The national park will include several zones. The strictly protected zone covers around 30 thousand ha of the most important habitat areas on the Borisovskoe Plateau. More than 120 thousand ha along the Russia-China border will have a special management regime aimed at protecting not only the leopard but also the state border. Access to this zone will only be allowed by special permits. All farmlands, lands around towns and military territories will be included in the economic development zone (38 thousand ha), and private ownership of such areas will not be altered. The remaining forest areas (72 thousand ha) are included in the recreational zone, where development of eco-tourism is planned.
The Amur branch of WWF today celebrates this unprecedented win. Twelve years of grueling work have ended with the successful establishment of the Land of the Leopard National Park!
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2022 4:48:49 GMT -5
Here in this recent video, a hyena is being showed to robb a leopard's kill of small warthog . It is to be noted that the cat does not defended its kill fiercely and then simply gave away the kill to the stronger hyena. This is the nature of the big cat. Simply surrender its kill to stronger predator in dispute. There are many more videos like these on youtube hyenas dominating kill disputes from leopard. The reason of posting this video in this thread is to show that with strength advantage, the hyena simply kleptoparasited on the cowardly leopard's kill. It is a very good evidence to show that how would a sloth bear or black bear would easily usurp the same leopard being more aggressive, larger, durable abd stronger than the hyena. In most bear cases, however, the leopard does not even take few seconds to defend its kill, it just simply runs away when seeing the bear approaching to its kill. Here is the video:-
The male leopard in this video is the late Hukumuri and he was known to be small for a dominant male. What he lacked in size, he made up for in daring. You and I must've seen a different video if you believe Hukumuri surrendered his kill. @0:09 one can clearly see Hukumuri approaching the hyena who lunges at him. Hukumuri repelled the attack just fine. Let's also not forget that the kill is at least half eaten. There are some factors that decide the outcome of these interactions with the most important one being sex. A male leopard compared to a female is like night and day. Female leopards rarely challenge hyena's unless cubs are involved or they're desperate. When it comes to male leopards, 3 scenario's can occur; - the hyena chases the male leopard away
- the hyena and male leopard share the kill
- the male leopard chases the hyena away
Even in the last case, the outcome varies as the hyena can return with more hyena's on its side in which sometimes the leopard keeps standing his ground or decides to abandon the kill.
The following interaction is more common than you think. Here the male leopard chases away the hyena with force. Eventually the hyena returns with a companion which in this case is enough to chase away the male leopard.
This male on the other hand stands his ground against two hyena's: Then again this one lets go of its kill although again the kill appears at least half eaten: Most will agree that it's basically a coin toss when they interact, especially when there's a kill involved. Since Hukumuri is a coward, I suppose these 5 hyena's are cowards as well?
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Post by brobear on May 28, 2022 5:19:44 GMT -5
Quote: Most will agree that it's basically a coin toss when they interact, especially when there's a kill involved. ( IMO ), it probably depends on a number of unseen factors. How hungry is the leopard? How many missed ambushes has he endured before making this kill? Does he feel strong enough to leave this carcass and hunt again? What has been his past experiences with hyenas? And so on... *Note: very interesting videos.
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Post by Montezuma on May 29, 2022 0:01:02 GMT -5
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Post by brobear on May 29, 2022 1:48:00 GMT -5
Some good stuff there. Feel free to post here anything of interest.
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Post by Montezuma on May 29, 2022 3:01:20 GMT -5
Some good stuff there. Feel free to post here anything of interest. I think these accounts are alrradily posted here in sloth bear vs leopard thread.
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Post by brobear on May 29, 2022 3:44:41 GMT -5
Between Montezuma and shortridge, we have some interesting videos of leopard/hyena conflict. It appears that the leopard has only a marginal fear but a great deal of respect for the spotted hyena. My challenge is; Show me a video of a leopard fighting ( physical bodily contact ) against a bear ( any species ).
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Post by Montezuma on Jun 26, 2022 1:00:00 GMT -5
In 2020, a fully-grown female leopard was killed in a fight with a bear (unknown species) in Northern Kashmir (disputed region between Pakistan and India) as locals and wildlife guards observed. Srinaga
"A leopard was found dead in the forest area of Handwara in north Kashmir’s Kupwara district on Tuesday. As per wildlife officials, the leopard died in a fight against bear and it was even seen by some locals as well as local staffers."
"Join Kashmir Life Whatsapp Group to stay updated Reports said body of full-grown leopard lying in the forest area of Gulab Nad area of Magam was spotted today."
"Soon the wildlife officials reached the spot and recovered the carcass."
"Postmortem was conducted by the veterinary doctors at a nearby facility and later its body was buried."
"Incharge Wild Life Forester, Hafizullah Khan told news agency GNS that the female leopard died in a fight with a bear. “The fight was seen by wildlife guards,” he said."
kashmirlife.net/bear-kills-leopard-in-north-kashmir-231531/
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Post by Montezuma on Jun 26, 2022 1:02:26 GMT -5
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Post by brobear on Jun 26, 2022 1:24:50 GMT -5
The unusual thing about this story ( two posts above by Montezuma ) is that the leopard fought the bear. I wish there were more details. Was this a mother leopard? Was this a big male leopard defending a carcass? Was this a leopard attempting to snatch a bear cub with the mother bear nearby? I guess we will never know.
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