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Post by tom on Feb 12, 2018 17:30:00 GMT -5
I don't know that I have a clear favorite. The CGI bear attack scene in The Revenant was incredibly realistic, something that would have been impossible using a trained Bear.
I of course enjoyed Bart in The Edge with Anthony Hopkins and Alec Baldwin. The 1976 film Grizzly was a little silly at times for me. Night of The Grizzly with Clint Walker and Old Satin was a classic. I was a little disappointed in the film "Into the Grizzly Maze" even though it did have some star power. "The Bear" was very good.
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Post by brobear on Feb 12, 2018 18:17:57 GMT -5
A great many recent movies that include a grizzly will have Bart the Bear credited. There have been two Bart the Bears. The original Bart was a huge Kodiak bear measuring nearly 10 feet tall and weighing roughly 1500 pounds. All of his movies were filmed in the 1900s. Bart Jr is not really The son of Bart the Bear. Bart Jr is an inland Alaskan grizzly weighing about 1100 pounds. All of Bart Jrs movies have been filmed in the 2000s.
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Post by tom on Feb 13, 2018 1:28:30 GMT -5
The Grizzly used in the film Grizzly (1976) was a real bear although not trained, named "Teddy" who was claimed to be 11ft tall. Interesting tidbit how the cast and crew had to be protected.
Grizzly was filmed on location in Clayton, Georgia, with many local residents cast in supporting roles. Catherine Rickman, who played one of the first victims, was actually the daughter of Clayton's mountain man, Frank Rickman. Though unintentional, the casting of George, Prine, and Jaeckel marked the second time this trio of actors starred together in the same film. They had previously played supporting roles in the Western Chisum (1970) starring John Wayne. A Kodiak bear nicknamed Teddy performed as the killer grizzly. Teddy was 11 feet tall and was the largest bear in captivity at that time. The bear was rented from the Olympic Game Ranch in Sequim, Washington, where he was kept behind an electric fence. The crew was protected from the bear by a piece of green string running through the shooting locations, and a ticking kitchen timer. This resembled (to the bear) an electric fence. Actors and crew members were instructed to always stay on the camera side of the string. The bear did not actually roar, so it was tricked into making the motions of roaring by throwing several marshmallows into its mouth and then holding a final marshmallow in front of its face but not throwing it. The bear would stretch for it. The sound was artificially produced.[citation needed] The original artwork for the Grizzly movie poster was created by the popular comic book artist Neal Adams. A novelization by Will Collins was published, as well.[citation need
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Post by brobear on Feb 14, 2018 5:22:35 GMT -5
You are quite correct Guest. Bears are basically loners and produce far less vocal sounds than most Carnivores. The roar of a lion is indeed more impressive.
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Post by tom on Mar 7, 2018 21:27:20 GMT -5
Grizzly "Bummer" Movies: Grizzly ( 1976 )... a 15-foot tall grizzly terrorizing a national park - too ridiculous. Bear ( 2010 )... slow-moving predictable revenge story. Into The Grizzly Maze ( 2015 )... great actors including Bart 2 - horrible script. Good Grizzly Movies: The Bear ( 1988 )... About an orphaned cub defended by a huge male ( Bart the Bear )... a nice family movie. Walking Thunder ( 1997 )... Bart the Bear is hunted by the bad guys... another family friendly movie. The Edge ( 1997 )... Great actors including Bart the Bear. A good movie for a more mature audience. Night of the Grizzly ( 1966 )... Great actors. Historically accurate. On the downside: not enough of the grizzly. Old Yeller is the essential dog movie. Black Beauty is the essential horse movie. Jaws is the essential shark movie. Lake Placid is the essential crocodile movie. Jurassic Park is the essential dinosaur movie. The Edge is ( for now ) the essential grizzly movie. Until a better movie hits the theaters, I would vote for The Edge being the essential grizzly movie. The Bear and Walking Thunder are ( IMO ) too "Disneyfied." Night of the Grizzly is simply not enough about the seldom-seen grizzly. I too think that the Edge may be Bart's best. I did however enjoy him in The Bear as well. Remember the scene when a cougar is chasing the little cub and he comes to a point where he cant continue and bellows out a loud blood curdling high pitched scream while facing the cougar. The Cougar suddenly stops. The little guy thinks it was his scream that stops the Cat while the camera pans up and behind him showing Bart behind him on his hind legs roaring and looking fearsome. Loved that scene...
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Post by brobear on Mar 8, 2018 4:45:14 GMT -5
I agree; in fact, after posting this I remember having second thoughts about the movie "The Bear". Did you know that The Bear is based off a book by James Oliver Curwood - "The Grizzly King"? - 1916. The book is based on a true story which, after becoming an author, he wrote in a fiction-style; imagining the bear's part in the tale. The young man in the movie whose life was spared by the grizzly is the author of the book. That incident changed his mind about being a hunter. The big grizzly was afterwards known as "Thor" and was indeed huge. The little bear, unlike the movie, named "Muskwa", was a black bear cub, making the friendship between the two bears even more impressive. James Curwood returned once and again saw the giant grizzly Thor.
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Post by brobear on Apr 2, 2018 6:26:31 GMT -5
movieweb.com/mowgli-movie-jungle-book-origins-rating-pg13/ Rudyard Kipling's The Jungle Book is getting a faithful adaptation with Mowgli, which will set it apart from the recently released live-action version by Disney. There isn't going to be any singalongs or cuteness, instead it has a darker tone that is more in line with Kipling's original story. Motion capture maestro Andy Serkis plays Baloo and also doubles as the director this time around and he has just shared some new interesting information about the "bloody imagery" and "dark Baloo" that earned the movie a PG-13 rating from the MPAA. The original 1967 animated version of The Jungle Book was supposed to follow the source material closer than it did, but Walt Disney didn't think that it would be appropriate for children. The 2016 remake, directed by Jon Favreau was pretty close to the animated version and didn't stray too far from the original. However, Andy Serkis had something else in mind entirely while he was making his version of the story. Serkis is keeping close to Rudyard Kipling's source material and even taking it step further into the darkness. In a new interview, Andy Serkis reveals that his version of Baloo is dark. This changes from what most people know from the Disney takes on the book and will more than likely come as a pretty big surprise to people when they see it. The 53-year old actor/director also admitted that he likes playing the villain, which is something that he's quite good at as evidenced in his role as Snoke in The Last Jedi. When talking about Mowgli, Serkis talks about a "tough Baloo." He explains. "It's quite fun being the villain, actually. Especially when finding ways to make the villain appealing in some ways and so, I mean, look, it's all about the character. But you'll see me being Baloo. He is quite nice. He is actually quite tough in this one. A dark Baloo. Mowgli that's the one I've been directing which is coming out later this year." Mowgli has already earned a PG-13 rating from the MPAA due to the "bloody images," which already starts to make Andy Serkis' directorial debut sound promising. Some have bemoaned the fact that the Jungle Book is getting another remake, but it sounds like Serkis' take on the source material is going to get a bit dark and different enough to standalone away from what Disney has done with the characters in the past. In addition to Andy Serkis as Baloo, Mowgli also stars Benedict Cumberbatch as Shere Khan, Cate Blanchett as Kaa, Naomie Harris as Nisha, Christian Bale as Bagheera, and Rohan Chand as Mowgli. The movie hits theaters on October 19th and it will be the Jungle Book that we've never seen on the big screen before. It will be interesting to see how Disney and Rudyard Kipling fans respond to the new remake. You can read the rest of the interview with Andy Serkis over at The List.
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Post by brobear on Apr 2, 2018 6:36:34 GMT -5
My big question is, "what species of bear will Baloo be in this movie adaptation?" In the novels by Rudyard Kipling, Baloo is clearly a brown bear. I assume a Himalayan brown bear. Walt Disney decided on a sloth bear for obvious reasons. Sloth bear is the more logical choice considering where the story takes place. In the Disney 2016 live-action version, Baloo is seen as a brown bear but referred to as a sloth bear ( exasperating ). Andy Serkis claims that his 2018 movie will be closer to the books than the Disney version. We shall see...
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Post by brobear on Nov 1, 2018 4:19:32 GMT -5
www.imdb.com/title/tt1694021/ The first time I watched "Into the Grizzly Maze" I was mildly disappointed, not because of the actors but because of the script. Two brothers, Rowan and Beckett, played by James Marsden and Thomas Jane, had problems with each other which are never explained. I have watched this movie probably six or eight times and I still don't get it. Never-the-less, good acting. I can be slow. Only after my second viewing of the movie do I understand the grizzly. Bart-2 is the real star of the movie. He plays the "Big Red Machine" ( although the name is never mentioned ). Red Machine is angry because of two things: loggers and poachers. I like this movie today more than I did three years ago. I would give "Into the Grizzly Maze" two and a half stars and "The Edge" five stars.
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Post by brobear on Nov 1, 2018 5:50:43 GMT -5
www.therichest.com/expensive-lifestyle/money/the-highest-paid-animal-actors/ During the 1980's and 1990, this Alaskan brown bear, Bart, was paid big bucks equating to $1 million total for the role he played in The Edge movie. He also starred in a number of other movies including The Great Outdoors when he starred with Dan Aykroyd and John Candy, as well as Legends of the Fall when he starred with well-known actor Brad Pitt. During his career, Bart earned more than $6 million and died in 2000 at 23 years old due cancer.
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Post by King Kodiak on Nov 1, 2018 6:04:28 GMT -5
And who got paid all that money? Was it his owner?
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Post by brobear on Nov 1, 2018 6:08:33 GMT -5
And who got paid all that money? Was it his owner? Sure, Doug Seus ( with Bart's permission ).
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Post by King Kodiak on Nov 1, 2018 6:15:15 GMT -5
Man Doug Seus was is a lucky man, not only did he own my favorite bear (the best of the land) but he got all that money.
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Post by brobear on Nov 1, 2018 6:20:56 GMT -5
Man Doug Seus was is a lucky man, not only did he own my favorite bear (the best of the land) but he got all that money. He was an animal trainer who also worked with wolves and cougars. He made good life choices and yes - lucky too.
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Post by King Kodiak on Nov 1, 2018 6:29:01 GMT -5
He deserves, there is a guy who you can say that he deserves it.
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Post by tom on Nov 1, 2018 11:46:32 GMT -5
I heard Doug once say that Bart put his kids thru college.
Listening to Doug describe the last days before Bart passed was very emotional and hard to hear. Doug describes (with eyes welling up) that Bart blew his last breath into my face and then he was gone. Anyone who has raised a pet from a very young age thru adulthood knows the special bond that occurs between man and animal. I've raised dogs from 7 weeks old and when the day comes (it comes relatively fast for dogs) the grief you feel is as strong and many times stronger than it would be for a losing a human family member. I can't explain it and unless you've been in those shoes you wouldn't understand.
There's a reason they say dogs are man's best friend. Unconditional loyalty/love. I suspect Doug and Bart had that same relationship only longer due to the Bears longer life span.
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Post by King Kodiak on Nov 1, 2018 15:48:26 GMT -5
Yeah Tom i saw that. That was very sad.
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Post by brobear on Dec 3, 2018 6:25:53 GMT -5
www.imdb.com/title/tt1694021/ The first time I watched "Into the Grizzly Maze" I was mildly disappointed, not because of the actors but because of the script. Two brothers, Rowan and Beckett, played by James Marsden and Thomas Jane, had problems with each other which are never explained. I have watched this movie probably six or eight times and I still don't get it. Never-the-less, good acting. I can be slow. Only after my second viewing of the movie do I understand the grizzly. Bart-2 is the real star of the movie. He plays the "Big Red Machine" ( although the name is never mentioned ). Red Machine is angry because of two things: loggers and poachers. I like this movie today more than I did three years ago. I would give "Into the Grizzly Maze" two and a half stars and "The Edge" five stars. Since I have this movie recorded, I've watched it a few times since this was posted. Finally - yes I can be slow - the entire movie makes sense to me. The writers put together a great story but a rather complicated one ( the various people involved and their personal lives ). One viewing is definitely not enough ( not for an aged brain like mine ). But there really is a good story there once you put the puzzle pieces together. The bear's role is not complicated. Evil illegal loggers and cold-hearted poachers have this Boss of the Woods angry and vengeful.
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Post by brobear on Dec 3, 2018 12:57:10 GMT -5
www.imdb.com/title/tt2231461/ 2018 Movie - Rampage. Very short look at a grizzly. What The Rock ( Dwayne Johnson ) has to say about the grizzly - right on the money.
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Post by brobear on Dec 27, 2018 12:42:15 GMT -5
This new Mowgli movie is ( IMO ) a somewhat better adaptation to Rudyard Kipling's Jungle Book than the live-action Disney version which premiered a couple of years ago. It is a darker story but just a little more realistic. Baloo is portrayed as a darker character also. Looks more like a Russian black grizzly than a Himalayan red bear. ( they just can't seem to get it right ). www.imdb.com/title/tt2388771/
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