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Post by horribilis on Jul 2, 2022 2:22:49 GMT -5
Average body mass of the Cape Buffalo(Syncerus caffer caffer):-
Note : All specimens >=4 years old were included.
1. Vital statistics of 100 Cape Buffaloes collected from Crocodile Ridge, Kruger National Park ; 611.83 kg for 35 bulls and 519.99 kg for 38 cows. 2. Sachs(1967) ; Specimens from Serengeti N.P. , Tanzania ; 750.8 kg for 8 bulls and 446.6 kg for 2 cows. 3. Taylor(1985) ; Specimens from Matusadona N.P. , Zimbabwe ; 574 kg for 4 bulls and 433 kg for 11 cows. 4. Wilson(1968) ; Specimens from Eastern Zambia ; 589.4 kg for 42 bulls and 430.8 kg for 31 cows. 5. Smither’s Mammals of Southern Africa: A Field Guide ; Heaviest bull from Kruger N.P. , South Africa ; 802 kg. 6. Data from Meinertzhagen ; Specimens from Kenya ; 768 kg for 2 bulls.
Overall average weight of 92 bulls is ~618 kg.(1362 lbs) Overall average weight of 82 cows is ~473 kg.(1043 lbs)
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Post by theundertaker45 on Aug 10, 2022 5:09:31 GMT -5
It has not been verified yet but there are a lot of hints that the Malayan gaur might actually be bigger than the Indian gaur. Another case of science not giving any attention to morphometrics.
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Post by arctozilla on Aug 10, 2022 7:15:33 GMT -5
How much does the Malayan gaur weigh?
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Post by brobear on Oct 15, 2022 13:03:26 GMT -5
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Post by brobear on Nov 13, 2022 11:19:06 GMT -5
Food for thought; when a topic comes open like Grizzly vs African buffalo, it is often forgotten that the bears of the Alaskan peninsula are grizzlies. The African buffalo, affalo, nyati, Mbogo or Cape buffalo (Syncerus caffer) is a large African bovine. It is not closely related to the slightly larger wild Asian water buffalo, but its ancestry remains unclear. Owing to its unpredictable nature which makes it highly dangerous to humans, it has not been domesticated, unlike its Asian counterpart, the domestic Asian water buffalo. The Cape buffalo is a very robust species. Its shoulder height can range from 1 to 1.7 m (3.3 to 5.6 ft) and its head-and-body length can range from 1.7 to 3.4 m (5.6 to 11 ft). The tail can range from 70 to 110 cm (28 to 43 in) long. Savannah type buffaloes weigh 500 to 910 kg (1,100 to 2,000 lb), with males, normally larger than females, reaching the upper weight range. A record-sized savannah-type male weighed 1,000 kg (2,200 lb). Forest type buffaloes, at 250 to 455 kg (550 to 1,000 lb), are only half that size. Its head is carried low, its top located below the backline. The front hooves of the buffalo are wider than the rear, which is associated with the need to support the weight of the front part of the body, which is more powerful than the back. *Note; the average bull black buffalo weighs roughly 1500 pounds. The average fully grown male Alaska Peninsula brown bear (9 years+) - 857.6 pounds. Sure, the bull is bigger but not double the bear's weight. A dominant male might equal the buffalo's weight. The bear is a grappler, the bull is not.
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Post by brobear on Dec 9, 2022 4:00:22 GMT -5
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Post by brobear on Jan 5, 2023 17:28:03 GMT -5
1992 Daily Bear vs bison: Dramatic footage shows Yellowstone grizzly taking down a bison. January 4, 2023 1992daily.com/bear-vs-bison-dramatic-footage-shows-yellowstone-grizzly-taking-down-a-bison-hoang/ Bear vs bison: Dramatic footage shows Yellowstone grizzly taking down a bison Host to the largest concentration of big mammals in the conterminous United States Yellowstone National Park is one of the best places in North America to see large carnivores in predatory action. On the afternoon of May 31, visitors to the park – only recently reopened on a limited basis after COVID-19-related closure – saw predatory action that’s especially rare to witness: a grizzly bear killing a bison. Michael Daus managed to capture cellphone footage of the encounter, which took place along the Firehole River at a trailhead in Yellowstone’s Midway Geyser Basin. Initially charged by the young bison, the grizzly ends up grappling its victim from behind, tearing into the bovid’s back as it staggers along. The struggling pair totter across a bridge over the river, then end up in the flow itself. The grizzly ultimately dispatched its hefty quarry along the riverbank. Park staff later moved the carcass on account of its proximity to the parking lot and trail. According to Daus, the attack unfurled over about 17 minutes. It certainly made an impression. “To have it happen close by and relatively safe for the circumstances we were in,” he told the Billings Gazette, ‘that’s a treat.” Yellowstone’s grizzlies are among the most carnivorous of North America’s inland brown bears, which partly reflects this Rocky Mountain highland’s great abundance and diversity of large ungulates. Animal protein for the bears, however, also comes in the form of everything from pocket gophers and cutthroat trout to ants and army cutworm moths, which Greater Yellowstone grizzlies seek out on austere talus slopes above timberline in summer. The two most important big beasts for Yellowstone grizzlies, calories-wise, are elk and bison. These are commonly eaten as scavenged carcasses, an especially critical protein source in spring for lean “silvertips” (as grizzlies are sometimes called) freshly out of their winter dens. The 1990s reintroduction of grey wolves to Yellowstone has translated into a smorgasbord for grizzlies, too, given the infusion of wolf-killed carrion that resulted; grizzlies, especially big males, usually dominate wolves and enthusiastically run them off their kills.
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Post by brobear on Jan 5, 2023 17:30:01 GMT -5
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Post by brobear on Jan 6, 2023 2:59:59 GMT -5
The bison appears to be a young-adult cow. The grizzly chooses wisely. The bear remains in full control from the beginning. It takes him 17 minutes to kill the young bison.
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Post by theundertaker45 on Jan 6, 2023 3:28:22 GMT -5
The best documented case of a bear killing a bison actually comes from YNP where an adult grizzly sow took the fight to a young adult bull bison; I'll attach the PDF below. Given the size difference between the two, this is an enormous predation feat. Apart from this, I am 100% convinced that a bear would completely manhandle and wipe out any bovid of equal size; hence most of them evolving into 1000kg brutes to be safe from predators. www.bearbiology.org/fileadmin/tpl/Downloads/URSUS/Vol_13/Wyman_13.pdf
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Post by brobear on Jan 6, 2023 6:04:19 GMT -5
That was indeed an event to remember. On that occasion, a sow grizzly kills a young bull bison. Before either of these two events had taken place, I had been saying for years that (imo) a grizzly will sometimes hunt and kill a bison; especially in early Spring when the bears wake-up hungry. Park rangers, biologists, and others with bear savvy take it for granted when they see a bear feeding on a bison carcass that the bison either died from natural causes or was killed by wolves. I'm sure that this holds true for the vast majority, but not all. Remember also that we have a few cases recorded here (within this topic) of Eurasian brown bears killing adult bison.
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Post by brobear on Feb 7, 2023 6:37:33 GMT -5
Wild bison to roam Britain for first time in thousands of years www.whitewolfpack.com/2020/07/wild-bison-to-roam-britain-for-first.html?fbclid=IwAR2df5Il2Jg-bQVEJhR3JFvpkDIvCTrUk2pksoVhdtsDZP1zVdSBtMnZzJA About 10,000 years after the Steppe Bison went extinct, UK's most important wildlife species are now also racing toward extinction. Ancient Steppe bison once roamed the land which would later become England. Their presence significantly provided other animals and plants the healthy ecosystem they needed to thrive. Now, the UK is looking to the Steppe bison's closest relative to bring back the area's ancient woodlands -- the European bison. The $1.4 million "Wilder Blean" project, funded by the People's Postcode Lottery Dream fund, aims to release a small herd of European bison into the West Blean woods, near Canterbury in East Kent, during the spring of 2022. The bison will come from the Netherlands or Poland, where previous releases have proved successful, and the initial release will include one male and three females, according to the Guardian. Natural breeding is expected to increase the size of the herd. Describing European bison as "ecosystem engineers," the Kent Wildlife Trust, one of the conservation organizations leading the project, said the species can "change woodlands in a way that no other animal can." "They eat bark and create dust baths which each have benefits for many plants and animals," the trust added. "These are functions that have been missing from our UK woodlands for thousands of years and bringing them back can help restore an abundance of wildlife." The UK is one of the most nature-depleted countries in the world, according to the World Wildlife Fund. More than one in seven native species face extinction and more than half are in decline. "The Wilder Blean project will prove that a wilder, nature-based solution is the right one to tackling the climate and nature crisis we now face," Paul Hadaway, director of conservation at Kent Wildlife Trust said in a statement. "Using missing keystone species like bison to restore natural processes to habitats is the key to creating bio-abundance in our landscape." Once the bison are settled into their fenced area, the public will be able to visit and watch the animals.
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Post by brobear on Feb 11, 2023 17:49:10 GMT -5
There was a time when grizzlies of the Great Plains followed the bison herds. The biggest skull of a grizzly recorded in the Boone and Crockett Club was found and is from one of those old bison hunters. About those outlaw grizzlies, the cattle and sheep killers of the American West.
Notorious Grizzly Bears by W.P. Hubbard - 1960 - Pelage and Character - Weight.
A safe estimate of the average weight of adult grizzlies in our western states would be about eight hundred and fifty pounds. This conclusion results from a careful check on grizzlies killed and weighed by numerous hunters, trappers, and old-time bear men. Nevertheless, there are exceptions. Several outlaw grizzlies investigated were known to have weighed over one thousand pounds.
( These outlaw grizzlies were hunted and killed before the Boone and Crockett Club established the idea of preserving bear skulls ). *When I had first read this several years ago, I considered this to be an exaggeration. But, that was then. W.P. Hubbard was the leading expert on bears at that time. Consider that, after the mega-beast extinction at the end of the Pleistocene, the grizzlies of the N. American Great Plains became foragers and bison hunters. Then, during the 1600s, 1700s, and early 1800s, the grizzly was also hunting range cattle ( the ancestors of the Texas Longhorn ), mustang horses, and wild burros. These grizzlies were feeding like royalty on lots of red meat. Beginning in the mid-1800s, the bison and feral cattle started disappearing, and were replaced by domesticated livestock. This is when the grizzly, following his nature, became, in the eyes of mankind, an outlaw. We all know the "rest of the story." W.P. Hubbard was probably 'right-on-the-money' when he stated that the grizzly of the prairie averaged roughly 850 pounds. In every book I have read concerning the historic grizzly ( those that touched on the subject ) stated that the grizzlies of the open prairie were bigger that those of the Rocky Mountains and rivaled only by those of the West Coast. It stands to reason, that a population of grizzlies with a very high percentage of red meat consumption would be very large bears. The Ussuri brown bear is the largest living inland brown bear living today. Only the salmon-eating coastal brown bears are bigger. However, back before the horrible slaughter of grizzly bears throughout North America down below the Canadian border, there were grizzly populations where the bears were bigger than their Russian brothers.
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Post by brobear on Feb 12, 2023 11:00:14 GMT -5
112 Yellowstone bison transferred to the Fort Peck Tribes helenair.com/news/state-and-regional/112-yellowstone-bison-transferred-to-the-fort-peck-tribes/article_636a1083-a1f5-5867-bcce-6ad90ee261a1.html?utm_campaign=snd-autopilot&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook_Helena_Independent_Record&fbclid=IwAR1QRF32T4YWAhWLXn1l9RDHpS7CWv68bEcghloGnNvI6L1QtAFCLegr1As The National Park Service and Animal Plant Health Inspection Service in January transferred 112 Yellowstone bison to the Fort Peck Reservation — marking the largest transfer made under the park’s Bison Conservation Transfer Program. The bison transferred included seven males, 53 females and 52 calves. All completed phases of the brucellosis quarantine and will finish assurance testing at Fort Peck. Two hundred and ninety-four bison have been transferred from Yellowstone to the Fort Peck Tribes since 2014, and of those, 170 have been transferred elsewhere in partnership with the InterTribal Buffalo Council. Native Americans used bison for food, shelter, clothing and ceremony, but in the 1800s settlers killed millions of bison, in part to devastate Native communities that relied on them. Now, organizations and tribes are working to return bison to tribal communities, for cultural, health and healing purposes.
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Post by brobear on Feb 13, 2023 2:03:17 GMT -5
In a face-off in the wild, unhindered by human interference, one-on-one, I'm not at all sure who would be victorious when the big boar brown bear goes face-to-face against a bull bison, a bull buffalo, a bull yak, or a bull gaur. I have read numerous stories told by pioneers and Indians of 19th century western N. America. They were greatly divided as to who is "top dog" in those battles. According to their tales, sometimes the bull bison won and sometimes the grizzly. Perhaps we should declare this a 50/50.
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Post by OldGreenGrolar on Feb 13, 2023 7:40:47 GMT -5
/\ It was the larger Californian grizzlies that were selected.
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Post by Granolah on Mar 18, 2023 22:00:26 GMT -5
Average body mass of the Cape Buffalo(Syncerus caffer caffer):-Note : All specimens >=4 years old were included.1. Vital statistics of 100 Cape Buffaloes collected from Crocodile Ridge, Kruger National Park ; 611.83 kg for 35 bulls and 519.99 kg for 38 cows. 2. Sachs(1967) ; Specimens from Serengeti N.P. , Tanzania ; 750.8 kg for 8 bulls and 446.6 kg for 2 cows. 3. Taylor(1985) ; Specimens from Matusadona N.P. , Zimbabwe ; 574 kg for 4 bulls and 433 kg for 11 cows. 4. Wilson(1968) ; Specimens from Eastern Zambia ; 589.4 kg for 42 bulls and 430.8 kg for 31 cows. 5. Smither’s Mammals of Southern Africa: A Field Guide ; Heaviest bull from Kruger N.P. , South Africa ; 802 kg. 6. Data from Meinertzhagen ; Specimens from Kenya ; 768 kg for 2 bulls.
Overall average weight of 92 bulls is ~618 kg.(1362 lbs) Overall average weight of 82 cows is ~473 kg.(1043 lbs)
Credits-Khan85,GuateGojira.
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Post by brobear on May 30, 2023 7:25:34 GMT -5
What predator, if any, attacked and killed... a two-and-a-quarter ton bull bison?
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Post by Granolah on Oct 21, 2023 10:10:28 GMT -5
Where can I post bovids and bears interactions?
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Post by brobear on Oct 21, 2023 11:34:57 GMT -5
Where can I post bovids and bears interactions? Right here. Or, you can start a new topic on "Bear Predation and Face-Off Topics"...
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