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Post by brobear on Nov 27, 2019 8:53:48 GMT -5
There's an old Mark Twain quote that goes like this. “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” Never argue with a fool; onlookers may not be able to tell the difference. —Mark Twain Mark Twain had a way with words for sure. But... I STILL DON'T KNOW.... why they continue even after being proved wrong. When I first got into the "animal face-off debates" I learned that I did not know nearly as much about animals as I had thought. I thought that a grizzly was pure predator. I was proven wrong. I believed that a grizzly routinely hunted full grown bison. I was proven wrong. I believed that you could never stop a grizzly with just one bullet. I was proven wrong. I used to think that a grizzly has a more powerful bite than a lion or a tiger. We have yet to acquire any definitive proof one way or the other. But I would lay odds on the big cat ( at equal size ). I will always man-up to the truth.
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Post by tom on Nov 27, 2019 13:50:20 GMT -5
There's an old Mark Twain quote that goes like this. “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” Never argue with a fool; onlookers may not be able to tell the difference. —Mark Twain Mark Twain had a way with words for sure. But... I STILL DON'T KNOW.... why they continue even after being proved wrong. When I first got into the "animal face-off debates" I learned that I did not know nearly as much about animals as I had thought. I thought that a grizzly was pure predator. I was proven wrong. I believed that a grizzly routinely hunted full grown bison. I was proven wrong. I believed that you could never stop a grizzly with just one bullet. I was proven wrong. I used to think that a grizzly has a more powerful bite than a lion or a tiger. We have yet to acquire any definitive proof one way or the other. But I would lay odds on the big cat ( at equal size ). I will always man-up to the truth. The difference between you and them brobear is that they will always be in denial and you learned to accept the facts by reading and learning from your prior beliefs. That's why I used the Mark Twain quotes. You can substitute "idiots" or 'fools" for Big Cat fanboys, but the premise is the same.
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Post by brobear on Jun 21, 2020 7:17:12 GMT -5
I still don't know or understand why these animal fight debates become so personal. They get to the point that it becomes an attack on someone. I understand why someone sticks up for their favorite animal and everything but many of these go waaay... beyond that. The Tiger vs Grizzly topic seems to be one of the worse. Very few who debate this topic come away with a clear winner and they turn heated and either the thread gets locked or individuals get banned. And someone asked: I still don't understand why some debates never end. *Yeah; next to "Lion vs Tiger", the "Tiger vs Grizzly" is the hottest animal face-off debate going. Here are the two sides as I see them. 1- The Grizzly Team knows that they are right. Even the majority ( nearly all ) true big cat enthusiasts ( educated, mature, and reasonable ) openly admit that a full-grown grizzly boar is too much bear for any cat to fight. 2- The Tiger Team are in complete denial of the truth. They know that, even though brown bears and tigers have shared the Russian taiga for about one million years, we have not one single confirmed account of a tiger ever killing a mature male brown bear. We do have confirmed reports of bears killing mature male tigers. Their problem is the total lack of maturity it takes to man-up to the truth. These debates will never end... even though we do have a clear winner.
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Post by OldGreenGrolar on Jul 9, 2020 0:20:45 GMT -5
I still don’t know why polar bears are not blue: I still don’t know why polar bears have translucent fur which become yellowish white due to sun oxidation and blubber oil.
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Post by OldGreenGrolar on Jul 9, 2020 9:19:54 GMT -5
I still don’t know why both the Alaskan brown bear and interior bear are horriblis.
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Post by King Kodiak on Jul 9, 2020 9:40:48 GMT -5
I still don’t know why both the Alaskan brown bear and interior bear are horriblis. Because according to most modern bear biologists there are not enough morphological differences to put them in different subspecies. (Am not saying i agree, but that is what they think).
With some i agree, with some i dont. For example, i think that Alaska Peninsula brown bears should have been left as (Ursus arctos gyas).
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Post by brobear on Feb 8, 2021 4:35:27 GMT -5
Quote from smedz: I still don't know why smoking cigarettes, cigars, etc isn't illegal at this point. Tobacco was first used by native Americans ( American Indians ) and then by American settlers. Naturally, tobacco became a big money-making industry. So, tobacco use has been legal since before the Pilgrims landed at Plymouth Rock. Millions of people smoke. Is smoking good for you? No. But, should we make everything that is harmful to our health illegal? That would be a very long list. I was smoking ( regularly ) since I was 13 or 14 ( roughly a pack-and-a-half a day ). But, I was smoking before that ( starting at age 10 ), probably averaging one or two cigarettes per day. Boys will be boys. My best friend of those years made us each a corn cob pipe. We used to buy Cherry Blend pipe tobacco. In those days, a kid could walk into a store and purchase tobacco products ( also firearm ammunition ). I quit smoking in 1991 because of the high cost. I had been smoking roughly 2 packs per day; then I quit. When the government started the "Tobacco War", they never intended to make tobacco illegal. It was about money. They put such a huge tax on tobacco that they ( the government ) makes more money off of tobacco than the actual tobacco industry does. From childhood and into my adult life, a pack of cigarettes cost 25 cents. Then came the 1980s.
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Post by brobear on Feb 8, 2021 4:41:24 GMT -5
I still don’t know why both the Alaskan brown bear and interior bear are horriblis. Because according to most modern bear biologists there are not enough morphological differences to put them in different subspecies. (Am not saying i agree, but that is what they think).
With some i agree, with some i dont. For example, i think that Alaska Peninsula brown bears should have been left as (Ursus arctos gyas).Well, it make no sense at all. There are an accepted 16 subspecies of American black bears and 2 subspecies of American brown bears. We can see the physical differences between the inland grizzly and the big Alaskan peninsula brown bears. With very few exceptions, all black bear subspecies look alike.
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Post by OldGreenGrolar on Feb 8, 2021 7:45:04 GMT -5
I still don’t know why American black bears are more numerous than their Asiatic counterparts.
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Post by King Kodiak on Feb 8, 2021 10:01:22 GMT -5
I still don’t know why American black bears are more numerous than their Asiatic counterparts. One of the reasons might have to do with laws and poaching. In North America the laws are more respected. In Asia, its a complete disaster, hunting with no limits, poaching, and the bear's body parts trade.
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Post by brobear on Apr 1, 2021 3:08:54 GMT -5
How often does a group of biologists perform a study on any given bear population, where we might be given the privilege of seeing the weights and measurements? Would this be something that's done at regular intervals? It seems that such study results are either hard to come by or else we simply haven't learned where to look.
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Post by King Kodiak on Apr 1, 2021 5:51:49 GMT -5
How often does a group of biologists perform a study on any given bear population, where we might be given the privilege of seeing the weights and measurements? Would this be something that's done at regular intervals? It seems that such study results are either hard to come by or else we simply haven't learned where to look. I would say very very seldom. Because i have looked absolutely everywhere using every keyword possible and there is nothing new coming up, just the usual old studies that we have.
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Post by brobear on Apr 1, 2021 6:18:12 GMT -5
How often does a group of biologists perform a study on any given bear population, where we might be given the privilege of seeing the weights and measurements? Would this be something that's done at regular intervals? It seems that such study results are either hard to come by or else we simply haven't learned where to look. I would say very very seldom. Because i have looked absolutely everywhere using every keyword possible and there is nothing new coming up, just the usual old studies that we have. The one individual that I know of that might possibly be able to answer this would be tigerluver over at Wildfacts. It might simply be that such records are not generally made public.
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Post by brobear on Apr 3, 2021 4:43:55 GMT -5
Well; I do know that here in the U.S.A., each new generation reinvents the English language. My question: is "crushed" a new word meaning killed?
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Post by tom on Apr 3, 2021 6:41:23 GMT -5
Well; I do know that here in the U.S.A., each new generation reinvents the English language. My question: is "crushed" a new word meaning killed? Ha Ha ! We'll Crushed could have several definitions. Defeated, conquered, destroyed or as you said, killed.
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Post by brobear on Apr 3, 2021 6:46:40 GMT -5
Well; I do know that here in the U.S.A., each new generation reinvents the English language. My question: is "crushed" a new word meaning killed? Ha Ha ! We'll Crushed could have several definitions. Defeated, conquered, destroyed or as you said, killed. It used to be what I did to a beer can once I had killed it.
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Post by tom on Apr 3, 2021 6:52:00 GMT -5
The original definition still has meanings to. The man was crushed when the Jack slipped out from under the car.
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Post by brobear on Apr 3, 2021 6:54:04 GMT -5
The original definition still has meanings to. The man was crushed when the Jack slipped out from under the car. A popular phrase ( in some forums )... "the tiger crushed the bear."
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Post by tom on Apr 3, 2021 6:57:48 GMT -5
Or like Kodiak has recently noted .... Silverback Gorilla defeats (crushes) T-Rex. 😁
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Post by King Kodiak on Apr 3, 2021 12:03:24 GMT -5
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