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Post by brobear on Dec 10, 2018 6:48:22 GMT -5
Right but what i meant with modern bears was living bears. Yes; I know. And good list.
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Post by BruteStrength on Dec 10, 2018 18:11:42 GMT -5
Wow these bears were massive. I don't know how people can think that big cats have a chance of beating bears of these sizes. Not even prehistoric cats would have a chance of taking of a adult male short faced bear.
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Post by King Kodiak on Dec 10, 2018 19:39:36 GMT -5
Wow these bears were massive. I don't know how people can think that big cats have a chance of beating bears of these sizes. Not even prehistoric cats would have a chance of taking of a adult male short faced bear. Not surprising bro, some of these tiger fans (the fanboys), think that a 500 lb bengal tiger destroys a 9000 lb asian elephant most times, so whats left for the other animals? Lmao.
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Post by brobear on Dec 11, 2018 6:18:52 GMT -5
Wow these bears were massive. I don't know how people can think that big cats have a chance of beating bears of these sizes. Not even prehistoric cats would have a chance of taking of a adult male short faced bear. Not surprising bro, some of these tiger fans (the fanboys), think that a 500 lb bengal tiger destroys a 9000 lb asian elephant most times, so whats left for the other animals? Lmao. Oh, so that's why the mammoth went extinct.
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Post by King Kodiak on Dec 11, 2018 6:25:00 GMT -5
Yeah i guess the saber-tooth cats killed them all, ha ha ha.
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Post by BruteStrength on Dec 11, 2018 12:17:42 GMT -5
Not surprising bro, some of these tiger fans (the fanboys), think that a 500 lb bengal tiger destroys a 9000 lb asian elephant most times, so whats left for the other animals? Lmao. Oh, so that's why the mammoth went extinct. Ha Ha Good one Brobear.
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Post by King Kodiak on Dec 29, 2018 16:19:46 GMT -5
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Post by brobear on Dec 30, 2018 3:43:31 GMT -5
Difficult reading such tiny print for these old eyes, but it says unconfirmed weight of over 2,000 pounds. If ( the big if ) this bear was estimated by a bear biologist, then the weight is likely accurate.
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Post by King Kodiak on Dec 30, 2018 4:02:34 GMT -5
Difficult reading such tiny print for these old eyes, but it says unconfirmed weight of over 2,000 pounds. If ( the big if ) this bear was estimated by a bear biologist, then the weight is likely accurate. Yeah, it does not say who estimated that bear. But if you click the link, that report has to do with the guinness book of world records.
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Post by brobear on Feb 6, 2019 8:45:06 GMT -5
If we took all of our bears and weighed them each at equal head-and-body length - the only fair way to compare the girth of Carnivora - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carnivora - we would discover that the giant cave bear dominates in girth. The brown bear would take second place winner.
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Post by King Kodiak on Feb 6, 2019 17:06:27 GMT -5
I agree brobear. But are you basing that on pics or actual info?
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Post by brobear on Feb 6, 2019 17:11:57 GMT -5
I agree brobear. But are you basing that on pics or actual info? Both. Somewhere within the "Cave Bear" topic it tells of how being a herbivore and never hunting the cave bear's developed heavier bones and more massive in build. Being highly carnivorous, the brown bears needed more speed and agility.
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Post by King Kodiak on Feb 6, 2019 17:23:00 GMT -5
I agree brobear. But are you basing that on pics or actual info? Both. Somewhere within the "Cave Bear" topic it tells of how being a herbivore and never hunting the cave bear's developed heavier bones and more massive in build. Being highly carnivorous, the brown bears needed more speed and agility. Awesome, yeah makes sense.
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Post by brobear on Feb 6, 2019 18:02:41 GMT -5
Biggest of the Biggest Bears. Amphicyon was a "Bear Dog" distantly related to bears. He was probably a predator and - IMO - weighed some less than the fat polar bear.
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Post by brobear on Feb 21, 2019 4:12:04 GMT -5
A. ANGUSTIDENS-U.M. TYRANNUS, OR MOST PROBABLE URSUS ARCTOS.
Ursus maritimus tyrannus = Ursus arctos
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Post by brobear on Feb 21, 2019 4:14:44 GMT -5
shaggygod.proboards.com/ From arctodus: Hello, thanks for theses good informations. But i would like understand some points please: First, according to your informations, tyrannus ulna has a total length of 485mm. ( 19.09 inches ). Arctotherium ulna has a total length of 570mm. ( 22.44 inches ). Arctodus simus UVP015 ulna has a total length of 591 mm. ( 23.27 inches ). I don't understand, all people say that tyrannus is taller and bigger than arctodus, nevertheless ulna arctodus is much longer than ulna tyrannus... Do you know what is the height of UVP015 when it was standing on his legs? Same question about tyrannus please. Then, do you know measurements about skull of arctotherium (largest males)?
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Post by brobear on Feb 21, 2019 4:19:53 GMT -5
Grrraaahhh: I would describe myself as an enthusiast not a paleontologist especially as it relates to fossil reconstruction and modeling. What information I find I share in the hopes of pooling data (some forms of data are more desired including foreign and technical report literature). In short, all I am doing is forwarding the data and happy to do so. I would say there are a handful of North American GSFB specimens that are in the ballpark range of A.angustidens as it relates to size. Some of them have a longer ulna, some of them have a longer humerus. RE: U.m. tyrannus, its fossil history stops with its ulna. There are varying debates about this beast, some argue the bear was more brown bear than polar bear, some think the fossil ulna belonged to a very large brown bear, and of course the original theory that the bear was the first form of polar bear.
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Post by brobear on Feb 21, 2019 4:21:43 GMT -5
Arctodus simus.
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Post by brobear on Feb 21, 2019 4:26:33 GMT -5
Arctodus simus (Cope-1897), the Short-Faced Bear, became extinct approximately 11,000 years ago. This individual died approximately 28,000 years ago and was found in Alaska. This specimen was approximately five feet at the hip and stood about 12 feet tall.
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Post by brobear on Feb 21, 2019 6:10:34 GMT -5
Ursus arctos priscus - Pleistocene brown bear ( Steppe Bear ) - also including Ursus arctos maritimus ( tyrant sea bear ) vs either Arctodus simus - Arctotherium angustidens - Agriotherium africanum or any other non-Ursus bear ( not genus Ursus ). U.a.priscus - Dimensions: length - 2.9 m ( 9 feet 6 inches ) , height - 140-160 сm ( 4 feet 7 inches - 5 feet 3 inches ), weight - 300-1000 kg ( 660 - 2200 pounds ).
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