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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2020 15:14:18 GMT -5
This is a topic I made on yuku back in 2013. God does time fly. Anyways these lions are 420 lbs and this bear is 1300 lbs. Vs
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Post by tom on May 3, 2020 15:19:00 GMT -5
Lets make the Kodiak Bear max size 1500 lbs. So lets set the stage. Two pride males (brothers) are defending the pride from a large Kodiak Bear that has trespassed very near where the sub-adults and cubs are playing and lounging.
Collectively they still are outweighed by the large Kodiak male.
Take it away everyone with your best guess as to the blow by blow encounter.
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Post by King Kodiak on May 3, 2020 15:20:20 GMT -5
I will be honest, any large 2 predators vs another single one is gona have the 2 winning. 2 large male lions working together would defeat 1 kodiak bear probably 8/9 out of 10 times. Is not even a debate.
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Post by tom on May 3, 2020 15:21:33 GMT -5
I will be honest, any large 2 predators vs another single one is gona have the 2 winning. 2 large male lions working together would defeat 1 kodiak bear probably 8/9 out of 10 times. Is not even a debate. Possibly? There's always a debate when it's never happened in real life. Remember were talking about a Bear roughly the size of Bart. C'mon lets have some fun. I want to hear how it all goes down blow by blow Kodiak. I'll tell you one thing though. There ain't no way one or both of them Lions are coming out of this unscathed.....
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Post by King Kodiak on May 3, 2020 15:26:09 GMT -5
I will be honest, any large 2 predators vs another single one is gona have the 2 winning. 2 large male lions working together would defeat 1 kodiak bear probably 8/9 out of 10 times. Is not even a debate. There's always a debate when it's never happened in real life. C'mon lets have some fun. I want to hear how it all goes down blow by blow Kodiak. And we will have fun dont worry. But whoever thinks one kodiak, even a 1500 lb one, would kill or defeat 2 adult full maned lions at once, its just a child. One is hard enough already. Even if 1 lion died, if the bear dies, it counts as the pair winning as a whole.
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Post by tom on May 3, 2020 15:27:55 GMT -5
Is this the same Kodiak who thinks any male Grizzly can and will whip a single Tiger with ease???
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Post by tom on May 3, 2020 15:29:26 GMT -5
So what if the Lions do not attack at once? what if one waits to see if his brother can get a hold of the behemoth bear and the Bear kills his brother while the other Lion is waiting?
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Post by King Kodiak on May 3, 2020 15:30:52 GMT -5
Is this the same Kodiak who thinks any male Grizzly can and will whip a single Tiger with ease??? Yeah, but 1 grizzly vs 1 tiger is one thing, and 1 kodiak vs 2 lions is a completely different ball game. I really dont believe in 1 vs 2 matches, sorry but it sounds like childs play. So what is your opinion Tom?
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2020 15:32:44 GMT -5
I will be honest, any large 2 predators vs another single one is gona have the 2 winning. 2 large male lions working together would defeat 1 kodiak bear probably 8/9 out of 10 times. Is not even a debate. Yes there are two predators against another but this isn't like two lions against a buffalo. The animal they're up against is another predator that vastly outweighs them both combined and also fights with tooth and claw. One is NOT hard enough against this thing. A 420 lb lion would be no threat at all to a bear of this size. Two of them could possibly do it through perhaps hit and run tactics, but there is a chance that the bear could kill them both if an error occurs. Fighting a bear is a lot different than fighting a large herbivorous animal.
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Post by King Kodiak on May 3, 2020 15:33:22 GMT -5
So what if the Lions do not attack at once? what if one waits to see if his brother can get a hold of the behemoth bear and the Bear kills his brother while the other Lion is waiting? Well, we are assuming the 2 lions attack at once, from the front and the back, that is the whole purpose of this topic. The scenario you just mentioned would be a kodiak vs 1 lion, one after the other.
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Post by tom on May 3, 2020 15:39:22 GMT -5
But Lions don't always attack at once. The header for this topic states two Lions vs Bear and says nothing where attacking at the same time. Remember this is no Buffalo were talking about here. This foe has 4" claws and teeth and can fight bipedal and weighs more than the two Lions combined. If both Lions attack simultaneously thats one thing, but often times they don't. A single Lion will not be able to control the back end of the Bear if he's bipedal. If a Bear the size of Bart gets a hold of a Lion, that Lion is going to die rather quickly IMO.
Attacked simultaneously then I agree the bear can't deal with both of them effectively at the same time. I'm trying to imagine this fight in my mind and i see the bear either killing one quickly or tossing one aside to deal with the other.
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Post by King Kodiak on May 3, 2020 15:39:36 GMT -5
The weight advantage in this case would not really matter. Its 2 adult male lions attacking 1 bear at once. The bear does not weight as much as an elephant or a rhino. It would be too much in my honest opinion. A kodiak, out of all bears can pull it off, but 2 out of 10 at most. I take it you think the bear wins more often than not?
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Post by tom on May 3, 2020 15:42:33 GMT -5
You could be right. Let's wait and see if anyone else has their opinions.
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2020 15:42:47 GMT -5
The weight advantage in this case would not really matter. Its 2 adult male lions attacking 1 bear at once. The bear does not weight as much as an elephant or a rhino. It would be too much in my honest opinion. A kodiak, out of all bears can pull it off, but 2 out of 10 at most. I take it you think the bear wins more often than not? 50/50
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Post by tom on May 3, 2020 15:44:55 GMT -5
I'm inclined to go 50/50 as well but only if both Lions attack simultaneously. If it comes down to a tag team by the Lions, then both Lions are going to die uggly.
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Post by King Kodiak on May 3, 2020 15:46:59 GMT -5
Just for the record, i also believe 2 tigers at once would defeat 1 single bear.
There is only 1 animal that would defeat 2 male lions at once more often than not, and that is a .........Silverback gorilla.
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2020 15:50:43 GMT -5
I'm inclined to go 50/50 as well but only if both Lions attack simultaneously. I'm looking more at hit and run tactics since a bear of this size would have a very hard time catching the lions. Attacking all at once could work but I could see one or both lions in the processing being badly injured. The bear isn't going to be immobilized by this or struggling to move. You'd need three lions in my opinion to do that. To me that's honestly too risky to attempt until the bear is exhausted from hit and run tactics, which could take quite a bit of time due to their high endurance and stamina.
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Post by tom on May 3, 2020 15:53:54 GMT -5
There is only 1 animal that would defeat 2 male lions at once more often than not, and that is a .........Silverback gorilla.Hence the reason you changed your avatar to a Gorilla. I know your kiddin so you won't convince me otherwise.
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Post by tom on May 3, 2020 15:57:02 GMT -5
I'm inclined to go 50/50 as well but only if both Lions attack simultaneously. I'm looking more at hit and run tactics since a bear of this size would have a very hard time catching the lions. Attacking all at once could work but I could see one or both lions in the processing being badly injured. The bear isn't going to be immobilized by this or struggling to move. You'd need three lions in my opinion to do that. To me that's honestly too risky to attempt until the bear is exhausted from hit and run tactics, which could take quite a bit of time due to their high endurance and stamina. True. A bear has much greater stamina than a Lion. It's not uncommon for one Lion to make the initial charge while the other one waits to see the outcome before joining in. A Lion can get on top of a Buffalo and stay there until his brother goes for the other end. This tactic will not work on a 1500lb Bear. Notta, nope it won't work. It has to be a simultaneous attack from each end or those Lions will be short work for the Bear.
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Post by King Kodiak on May 3, 2020 15:58:37 GMT -5
There is only 1 animal that would defeat 2 male lions at once more often than not, and that is a .........Silverback gorilla.Hence the reason you changed your avatar to a Gorilla. I know your kiddin so you won't convince me otherwise. You said you wanted to have some fun so, ha ha ha.
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