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Post by King Kodiak on Sept 19, 2018 4:16:56 GMT -5
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Post by King Kodiak on Sept 19, 2018 4:36:09 GMT -5
Brobear....its a great chart, just what i need it. But it says years 75 to 85, is it still accurate now 30 years later?
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Post by brobear on Sept 19, 2018 4:45:50 GMT -5
Please check my math: Male grizzlies 9+ years old ( kg ): 199 + 168.9 + 224 + 199 + 261.1 + 233.8 + 301.9 + 259.9 + 147.6 + 215.7 + 238.4 = 2449.3 kg. Divided by 12 = 204.1 kg. 204 kilograms is equal to 449.74 pounds (avoirdupois)
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Post by King Kodiak on Sept 19, 2018 6:46:58 GMT -5
Ok so then its 450 lbs, not 500 correct.
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Post by brobear on Sept 19, 2018 15:11:44 GMT -5
Yes; evidently. I once did this same thing evidently with a different chart and came up with a 500 pound average. Maybe some place other than Yellowstone. Contrary to popular belief, Yellowstone is actually very poor land for a grizzly; beautiful scenery but not a lush environment. Some bears wouldn't make it through a Winter without gorging themselves on moths. An average weight of 450 pounds for a full-grown male Yellowstone grizzly. Not bad at all; heavier than the average adult male Bengal tiger.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2018 15:31:17 GMT -5
Yes; evidently. I once did this same thing evidently with a different chart and came up with a 500 pound average. Maybe some place other than Yellowstone. Contrary to popular belief, Yellowstone is actually very poor land for a grizzly; beautiful scenery but not a lush environment. Some bears wouldn't make it through a Winter without gorging themselves on moths. An average weight of 450 pounds for a full-grown male Yellowstone grizzly. Not bad at all; heavier than the average adult male Bengal tiger. I never knew yellowstone was a bad condition for grizzly bear. Nice research man.
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Post by King Kodiak on Sept 19, 2018 16:50:28 GMT -5
Ok then, 450 it is, thanks.
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Post by brobear on Sept 19, 2018 18:06:26 GMT -5
Alaskan inland grizzlies are normally bigger than those in Yellowstone. Same with Canada, except for the Yukon and the open tundra. Much bigger are the Amur or Ussuri grizzlies in the R.F.E. The Ussuri brown bear ( black grizzly ) or Amur brown bear is of the same subspecies which are the ancestors of the American grizzlies. The grizzlies of pioneer America were bigger bears also.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2018 18:09:33 GMT -5
Alaskan inland grizzlies are normally bigger than those in Yellowstone. Same with Canada, except for the Yukon and the open tundra. Much bigger are the Amur or Ussuri grizzlies in the R.F.E. The Ussuri brown bear ( black grizzly ) or Amur brown bear is of the same subspecies which are the ancestors of the American grizzlies. The grizzlies of pioneer America were bigger bears also. So the ussuri grizzlies are bigger than the north american grizzlies?
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Post by brobear on Sept 19, 2018 18:28:27 GMT -5
They are probably the biggest living inland grizzlies on earth. Only the coastal salmon-eaters are bigger. blog.nationalgeographic.org/2012/04/30/the-biggest-of-the-big-the-brown-bears-of-alaska-and-russias-far-east/ The black grizzly or Ussuri brown bear (Ursus arctos lasiotus) is another big bear occasionally attaining a size greater than the Kamchatka brown bear. These bears are found in the Amur and Ussuri River regions of the Russian Far East, northeastern China, the Korean Peninsula and Japan. In the Amur region these bears cross paths with Siberian (Aumr) tigers on rare occasions, primarily because there are so few Siberian tigers left in the world. Tiger attacks on bears have been reported when the bears were in hibernaculum as well while ambulatory. Supposedly, the brown bears are attacked with more frequency than the smaller Asiatic black bears because of habitat preference and an inability to climb trees. But these bears also attack the typically smaller tigers on occasion. The bears are more commonly known to track tigers, following the big cats’ foot prints to ungulate kills, where they ultimately force the cat off the carcass, taking possession of it. “Huang Di” which translates in Chinese to “King” is the name of the celebrity Ussuri brown bear (Manchurian brown bear) who calls the San Diego Zoo his home. Nicknamed “Blackie,” Huang Di is one of the largest and most beautiful bears I have ever seen. The black bear is a gentle giant, standing nearly 5 ft at the shoulders and weighing in at nearly 900 lbs. Today his enclosure sits adjacent to two young brother grizzlies. When I last visited Huang Di who was born at the Bejing Zoo in 1984 he lumbered over toward the large metal divider, that when closed, safely separated the younger bears from the big Ussuri brown bear in the adjacent bear grotto. Smell or sound of this gigantic boar in their proximity sent them scrambling to a distant hiding place on the other side of their enclosure. Click here for a photo of Huang Di (A.K.A. Blackie).
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2018 18:52:37 GMT -5
They are probably the biggest living inland grizzlies on earth. Only the coastal salmon-eaters are bigger. blog.nationalgeographic.org/2012/04/30/the-biggest-of-the-big-the-brown-bears-of-alaska-and-russias-far-east/ The black grizzly or Ussuri brown bear (Ursus arctos lasiotus) is another big bear occasionally attaining a size greater than the Kamchatka brown bear. These bears are found in the Amur and Ussuri River regions of the Russian Far East, northeastern China, the Korean Peninsula and Japan. In the Amur region these bears cross paths with Siberian (Aumr) tigers on rare occasions, primarily because there are so few Siberian tigers left in the world. Tiger attacks on bears have been reported when the bears were in hibernaculum as well while ambulatory. Supposedly, the brown bears are attacked with more frequency than the smaller Asiatic black bears because of habitat preference and an inability to climb trees. But these bears also attack the typically smaller tigers on occasion. The bears are more commonly known to track tigers, following the big cats’ foot prints to ungulate kills, where they ultimately force the cat off the carcass, taking possession of it. “Huang Di” which translates in Chinese to “King” is the name of the celebrity Ussuri brown bear (Manchurian brown bear) who calls the San Diego Zoo his home. Nicknamed “Blackie,” Huang Di is one of the largest and most beautiful bears I have ever seen. The black bear is a gentle giant, standing nearly 5 ft at the shoulders and weighing in at nearly 900 lbs. Today his enclosure sits adjacent to two young brother grizzlies. When I last visited Huang Di who was born at the Bejing Zoo in 1984 he lumbered over toward the large metal divider, that when closed, safely separated the younger bears from the big Ussuri brown bear in the adjacent bear grotto. Smell or sound of this gigantic boar in their proximity sent them scrambling to a distant hiding place on the other side of their enclosure. Click here for a photo of Huang Di (A.K.A. Blackie). Hell yeah Bro. I actually seen pictures of blackie before and I agree that is one beautiful bear.
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Post by King Kodiak on Sept 19, 2018 22:33:26 GMT -5
Alaskan inland grizzlies are normally bigger than those in Yellowstone. Same with Canada, except for the Yukon and the open tundra. Much bigger are the Amur or Ussuri grizzlies in the R.F.E. The Ussuri brown bear ( black grizzly ) or Amur brown bear is of the same subspecies which are the ancestors of the American grizzlies. The grizzlies of pioneer America were bigger bears also. you mean that the Usurri brown bear is “commonly refered” to as Russian grizzly bears right? Because officially the Ussuri brown bear and the North american grizzly bear are 2 different subspecies of brown bear.
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Post by brobear on Sept 20, 2018 2:25:49 GMT -5
The Ussuri "black grizzly" is the ancesstral bear of Ursus arctos horribilis. The Kamchatka brown bear is the ancestral bear of the Kodiak bear. I personally believe that the big coastal Alaskan peninsula grizzlies are actually the descendants of Kodiak bears that were separated from those now on the islands when the ice began to melt. Then, those left on the mainland have been blending with the inland descendants of the Amur grizzly.
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Post by brobear on Sept 20, 2018 2:29:22 GMT -5
Notice that from the Yellowstone chart, the 16 year old male is the biggest. 259.9 kilograms is equal to 572.98 pounds (avoirdupois)
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Post by King Kodiak on Sept 20, 2018 5:41:28 GMT -5
The Ussuri "black grizzly" is the ancesstral bear of Ursus arctos horribilis. The Kamchatka brown bear is the ancestral bear of the Kodiak bear. I personally believe that the big coastal Alaskan peninsula grizzlies are actually the descendants of Kodiak bears that were separated from those now on the islands when the ice began to melt. Then, those left on the mainland have been blending with the inland descendants of the Amur grizzly. Yet now, officially, they are all different subspecies correct? We have grizzly bear, Ussuri brown bear, Kamchatka brown bear, Kodiak Bear, Himalayan Brown bear. These are 5 different subspecies of brown bear. Officially.
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Post by brobear on Sept 20, 2018 5:50:57 GMT -5
Sure; and there are many more. They are all Ursus arctos. They are all "commonly" referred to as "grizzly".
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Post by brobear on Sept 20, 2018 5:52:47 GMT -5
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Post by King Kodiak on Sept 20, 2018 5:57:40 GMT -5
Thats what i am saying, that confuses all the fanboys, “commonly reffered” but officially different subspecies.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2018 8:54:40 GMT -5
Bears are really strong. Bears are said to be able to treat a 700 pound dumpster like a beach ball.
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Post by brobear on Sept 22, 2018 9:09:02 GMT -5
The Bear Almanac: Gary Brown says: No animal the size of a bear is as strong. I say: No bear is pound-for-pound as strong as a grizzly. Someone once argued: A bison is stronger. My answer: At equal length, measured from snout to rump, I'd bet on the grizzly. But that would be a small bison.
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