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Post by King Kodiak on Mar 10, 2020 20:48:38 GMT -5
Elk are grazers and browsers. If left unchecked and their numbers explode, they could likely overgraze and make it more difficult for other plant eating mammals. Thats true, but not to worry, because bears can still hunt themselves (they would have to put a little more effort), they still have insects to eat, and of course fish, like Cutthroat trout, Yellowstone has the largest inland population of Cutthroat trout in the world:
www.nps.gov/yell/learn/nature/beartrout.htm
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Post by brobear on Mar 11, 2020 3:36:25 GMT -5
( IMHO ), remove the wolves, and the bears ( both black and brown ) would survive in Yellowstone. But the number of grizzlies would be lower and their average weight would be lower. It would be a hard hit to the bears; especially to the grizzly. Pictured: Grey Wolf, Coyote, and Red Fox. ![](https://www.nps.gov/yell/learn/nature/images/Canid_comparison.jpg?maxwidth=650&autorotate=false)
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Post by brobear on Mar 11, 2020 5:48:04 GMT -5
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Post by King Kodiak on Mar 13, 2020 15:21:23 GMT -5
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Post by King Kodiak on Mar 15, 2020 13:44:37 GMT -5
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Post by brobear on Mar 15, 2020 23:56:24 GMT -5
However, brown bears have occasionally been noted showing extremely little animosity to wolves, making it appear as if they do not want to. From the same article: In Yellowstone, French tells of watching two yearling grizzlies and three yearling wolves romp and chase together in what apparently was pure play--while the respective parents looked on. The adult wolves then departed with one offspring in tow, but for two days, the remaining pair of young wolves traveled and hunted with the bears. At mealtime, they ate last, but the grizzlies showed them no real animosity. www.tapatalk.com/groups/animalsversesanimals/siberian-tiger-misha-the-adult-brown-bear-killer-t1707.html
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2020 17:15:51 GMT -5
Brown bear attacks polar wolf and kills it in a few seconds. “While feeding the brown bears and the polar wolves in a game reserve, one bear suddenly attacked a wolf. Unfortunately the wolf was dead a few seconds later.” ![](https://i.imgur.com/oJUVfaB.jpg) ![](https://i.imgur.com/FdmSGXj.jpg) WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH THE ORGANISATION OF THIS PEN !!! I'M PISSED !
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Post by brobear on Apr 30, 2020 17:20:09 GMT -5
Brown bear attacks polar wolf and kills it in a few seconds. “While feeding the brown bears and the polar wolves in a game reserve, one bear suddenly attacked a wolf. Unfortunately the wolf was dead a few seconds later.” ![](https://i.imgur.com/oJUVfaB.jpg) ![](https://i.imgur.com/FdmSGXj.jpg) WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH THE ORGANISATION OF THIS PEN !!! I'M PISSED ! I have read several accounts of different species being confined together. Always a bad idea.
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Post by OldGreenGrolar on May 3, 2020 4:01:54 GMT -5
Polar bear and Canadian wolf pictured here - possibly - one of those rare unexplainable friendships that occur in the wild. ![](https://news.cgtn.com/news/3d3d774d3459444e30457a6333566d54/img/9dacc1f7da064df195100a9b928a2acf/9dacc1f7da064df195100a9b928a2acf.jpg) ![](https://news.cgtn.com/news/3d3d774d3459444e30457a6333566d54/img/cd4fdcf6e70b41a08fe7cb8b96f0a394/cd4fdcf6e70b41a08fe7cb8b96f0a394.jpg) ![](https://news.cgtn.com/news/3d3d774d3459444e30457a6333566d54/img/108ca631ba3b40719176b28fad26c6a9/108ca631ba3b40719176b28fad26c6a9.jpg) A bold statement from me: This polar bear is probably a sub adult. just look at its size comparison to the wolf.
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Post by King Kodiak on May 8, 2020 20:57:41 GMT -5
Great info TNG. the tables are blurry though, cant read them. so what is average weight for this one?
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2020 22:41:13 GMT -5
Great info TNG. the tables are blurry though, cant read them. so what is average weight for this one? I will calculate that tomorrow. I will look at the viewing issue. Is it blurry on my forum : domain of the wolf (where i originally post it) ? Edit : it is. Well i will try to fix it tomorrow. Sad thing. Hope it won’t take me too long.
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Post by King Kodiak on May 9, 2020 1:16:25 GMT -5
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Post by brobear on May 9, 2020 5:37:54 GMT -5
I heard the guy say "14" - perhaps the same grizzly boar and the same pack of 14 wolves as on the documentary. The wolves tried to bluff the bear; didn't work.
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Post by theundertaker45 on May 9, 2020 6:04:18 GMT -5
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Post by King Kodiak on May 9, 2020 8:24:24 GMT -5
I heard the guy say "14" - perhaps the same grizzly boar and the same pack of 14 wolves as on the documentary. The wolves tried to bluff the bear; didn't work. Yeah, but i dont think its the same. In the other video the wolves did not even get close to the bear. Anyhow, the bear won in both videos, he held the carcass.
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Post by King Kodiak on May 9, 2020 15:35:36 GMT -5
TNG....thanks but i still cant see it. You have to be a member of your forum to see it. Just tell me the average weight of adult male wolves in YNP.
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2020 16:58:27 GMT -5
TNG....thanks but i still cant see it. You have to be a member of your forum to see it. Just tell me the average weight of adult male wolves in YNP.
n= 26 Total = 3022 lbs 3022/26 = 116,23 lbs = 116 lbs 116 lbs = 52.62 kg Heaviest of the 26 adult males was 487M (132 lbs or 60 kg) The heaviest wolf recorded in YNP History is Wolf 760M (When he was alpha male of the Yellowstone Delta Pack) (148 lbs or 67.1 kg empty belly) (2011 or 2012) (He had gained 30 lbs [15 kg] in only one year]
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Post by King Kodiak on May 9, 2020 18:43:58 GMT -5
Thanks bro. I see.
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Post by brobear on May 10, 2020 4:18:49 GMT -5
TNG....thanks but i still cant see it. You have to be a member of your forum to see it. Just tell me the average weight of adult male wolves in YNP.
n= 26 Total = 3022 lbs 3022/26 = 116,23 lbs = 116 lbs 116 lbs = 52.62 kg Heaviest of the 26 adult males was 487M (132 lbs or 60 kg) The heaviest wolf recorded in YNP History is Wolf 760M (When he was alpha male of the Yellowstone Delta Pack) (148 lbs or 67.1 kg empty belly) (2011 or 2012) (He had gained 30 lbs [15 kg] in only one year] Books and documentaries often state timber wolves ( grey wolves ) reaching 175 pounds. I suppose this would be classified as generic information. I remember books back in my school years had lions at 500 pounds, tigers at 700 pounds, gorillas at 600 pounds, and black bears at 500 pounds as if these were their average weights.
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2020 11:14:01 GMT -5
n= 26 Total = 3022 lbs 3022/26 = 116,23 lbs = 116 lbs 116 lbs = 52.62 kg Heaviest of the 26 adult males was 487M (132 lbs or 60 kg) The heaviest wolf recorded in YNP History is Wolf 760M (When he was alpha male of the Yellowstone Delta Pack) (148 lbs or 67.1 kg empty belly) (2011 or 2012) (He had gained 30 lbs [15 kg] in only one year] Books and documentaries often state timber wolves ( grey wolves ) reaching 175 pounds. I suppose this would be classified as generic information. I remember books back in my school years had lions at 500 pounds, tigers at 700 pounds, gorillas at 600 pounds, and black bears at 500 pounds as if these were their average weights. They are wolf with meat inside 99.99% of the time. The wolf 760M was empty bellied but wolves can have 22 lbs (10 kg of meat) In their stomach. Which means that this wolf [760M] could/would have been 170 lbs (77 kg) but 148 lbs (67 kg) empty belly so it definitely happens 175 lbs wolves only they arent emptied
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