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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2019 8:17:50 GMT -5
The Bear and the Boar, the worlds largest omnivores. True. The boar, however, has less stamina than even felines which in turn have less stamina than bears. I have watch a documentary on NGO where two lionesses wore down a warthog by avoiding its tusks before strangling and eating it (one lioness is enough to kill a warthog as long as she watches out for these tusks). A brown bear or black bear on the other hand can wear out a wild boar by hanging on and wait for the suide to lose stamina before eating away.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2019 8:28:53 GMT -5
Does anyone have accounts of black bears versus wild boar/wild hog other than the account in the 'grizzly vs wild boar' thread which says that the black bear likes to eat pork (I am not doubting that account) as I find it much harder to find accounts of black bears hunting boars compared to brown bears doing so.
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Post by King Kodiak on Mar 21, 2019 8:35:23 GMT -5
Does anyone have accounts of black bears versus wild boar/wild hog other than the account in the 'grizzly vs wild boar' thread which says that the black bear likes to eat pork (I am not doubting that account) as I find it much harder to find accounts of black bears hunting boars compared to brown bears doing so. Good question Oldfossil. I dont think we do have accounts outside of that thread. But i will definatly start searching. As of now, i just found this.
Black Bear – The black bear is known to prey on feral hogs of all ages; however, the impact of predation by this bear on feral hog populations is not known. Some researchers have speculated that black bears probably kill few if any feral hogs, especially given that an adult hog would represent a formidable adversary for a black bear. In fact, in the 1920s a feral boar in the Okefenokee Swamp was reported to have killed a black bear in a fight between the two animals. Similar accounts of feral boars killing bears during fights in the Ozark Mountains of Arkansas were reported in the 1880s. Being opportunistic, black bears have been reported to raid nylon net live traps used for feral hog control at high elevations in the GSMNP to obtain any trapped hogs contained within these devices.
articles.extension.org/pages/63656/natural-predators-of-feral-hogs
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2019 8:43:41 GMT -5
That account confirms that black bears are capable of killing wild hogs (not as often as brown bears do) but these suides can be formidable adversaries.
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Post by BruteStrength on Mar 21, 2019 19:46:10 GMT -5
I think alarge black bear that is 700 pound can kill a boar.
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Post by brobear on Mar 21, 2019 22:15:04 GMT -5
American black bears above 500 pounds are rare. Wild hogs in the Southern states, which I am very familiar with, look similar to Eurasian wild boar. Black bears are thought to sometimes prey upon them but I feel certain that a black bear would be after pigs ( juveniles ). Black bears are not by nature very predaceous. On average, black bears and "razorbacks" are roughly at size/weight parity. They might squabble over food resources.
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Post by King Kodiak on Mar 29, 2019 18:56:39 GMT -5
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Post by brobear on Mar 30, 2019 5:59:00 GMT -5
Fantastic find Kodiak. Notice that the grizzly takes on the wild boar face-to-face - bear style
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Post by King Kodiak on Mar 30, 2019 6:06:25 GMT -5
Fantastic find Kodiak. Notice that the grizzly takes on the wild boar face-to-face - bear style Thanks brobear. Yeah i noticed. Sounds like the boar was suffering also. Like the previous bear-boar videos, looks like the bear used grappling to subdue the boar.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2019 6:11:59 GMT -5
I once debates a knowledgeable poster but he never agreed with any of us that a bear can beat a wild boar at parity which is fine by me. After seeing videos of brown bears overpowering wild boars, I am certain that the bear will win.
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Post by King Kodiak on Mar 30, 2019 9:40:09 GMT -5
I once debates a knowledgeable poster but he never agreed with any of us that a bear can beat a wild boar at parity which is fine by me. After seeing videos of brown bears overpowering wild boars, I am certain that the bear will win. Absolutely yeah. All the accounts and videos show the brown bears winning. Never seen any account of a boar killing a brown bear. At weight parity the brown bear will win most times.
check page 1 of this thread, i posted a chart, looks like bears kill more wild boar than tigers do In the Russian far east. Alot of adult males also.
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Post by brobear on Mar 30, 2019 14:38:36 GMT -5
I once debates a knowledgeable poster but he never agreed with any of us that a bear can beat a wild boar at parity which is fine by me. After seeing videos of brown bears overpowering wild boars, I am certain that the bear will win. Absolutely yeah. All the accounts and videos show the brown bears winning. Never seen any account of a boar killing a brown bear. At weight parity the brown bear will win most times.
check page 1 of this thread, i posted a chart, looks like bears kill more wild boar than tigers do In the Russian far east. Alot of adult males also.The beauty of this chart is; tigers are full-time predators. Grizzlies only hunt during specific times when other foods are scarce. And still the bears kill more adult wild boars than do tigers.
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Post by King Kodiak on Mar 30, 2019 15:23:19 GMT -5
Absolutely yeah. All the accounts and videos show the brown bears winning. Never seen any account of a boar killing a brown bear. At weight parity the brown bear will win most times.
check page 1 of this thread, i posted a chart, looks like bears kill more wild boar than tigers do In the Russian far east. Alot of adult males also. The beauty of this chart is; tigers are full-time predators. Grizzlies only hunt during specific times when other foods are scarce. And still the bears kill more adult wild boars than do tigers. Yeah brobear, that is really surprising data. We know bears love pork so.
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Post by BruteStrength on Mar 30, 2019 20:53:27 GMT -5
The thing I noticed about bear vs boar fights it that it takes the bear along time to kill the boar.
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Post by King Kodiak on Mar 30, 2019 21:43:46 GMT -5
The thing I noticed about bear vs boar fights it that it takes the bear along time to kill the boar. Because its a predatory attack and bears dont have the skill to kill prey as fast as big cats. The technique used by bears in predation is to use their stamina to wear down the prey, thats why it takes long most times.
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Post by BruteStrength on Mar 30, 2019 22:36:55 GMT -5
Big cats usually kill by a throat bite while bears on the other hand have to kill by brute strength.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2019 1:30:04 GMT -5
I once debates a knowledgeable poster but he never agreed with any of us that a bear can beat a wild boar at parity which is fine by me. After seeing videos of brown bears overpowering wild boars, I am certain that the bear will win. Absolutely yeah. All the accounts and videos show the brown bears winning. Never seen any account of a boar killing a brown bear. At weight parity the brown bear will win most times.
check page 1 of this thread, i posted a chart, looks like bears kill more wild boar than tigers do In the Russian far east. Alot of adult males also. King Kodiak, I have had a look at page 1,I love the info there.
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Post by brobear on Mar 31, 2019 19:57:00 GMT -5
The thing I noticed about bear vs boar fights it that it takes the bear along time to kill the boar. The popular video of a Russian wild boar and a grizzly, filmed by Russian red-necks in a truck, was a young bear ( maybe 5 or 6 years old ) with a large hog ( sex unknown ). A common strategy of the grizzly is to wear down his opponent until it ( bear, big cat, hog, etc ) is completely exhausted. Then kill it. Without the horn-honking and yelling from the ignorant people filming, the young bear would have killed the hog sooner.
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Post by BruteStrength on Mar 31, 2019 23:55:57 GMT -5
The thing I noticed about bear vs boar fights it that it takes the bear along time to kill the boar. The popular video of a Russian wild boar and a grizzly, filmed by Russian red-necks in a truck, was a young bear ( maybe 5 or 6 years old ) with a large hog ( sex unknown ). A common strategy of the grizzly is to wear down his opponent until it ( bear, big cat, hog, etc ) is completely exhausted. Then kill it. Without the horn-honking and yelling from the ignorant people filming, the young bear would have killed the hog sooner. The video You're referring to I remember seeing. I think the people honking the horn was quite dumb to be honest . I don't think they respect nature too much because if they did they wouldn't interfere with the bear killing the boar.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2019 7:06:14 GMT -5
I was surprise too but I think its because a brown bear will have a much easier time killing a wild boar than a tiger does.
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