Andean bear vs Giant panda

[brobear]

Weight Collection - domainofthebears.proboards.com/thread/773/weight-collection?page=1  
 
Heavyweight record per species of bear:  

7- Andean bear: 386 pounds.
8- Giant panda: 440 pounds.
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Average Weights: 
 
Giant panda - sow: 220 pounds.
Giant panda - boar: 250 pounds 
 
Andean bear - sow: 165 pounds.
Andean bear - boar: 254 pounds.
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IMO: Average weights carry more meaning than the weight of some individual larger-than-normal bear. Four pounds is not enough difference to call one larger than the other.

[brobear]

The giant panda, a black-and-white bear, has a body typical of bears. It has black fur on its ears, eye patches, muzzle, legs, and shoulders. The rest of the animal's coat is white. Although scientists do not know why these unusual bears are black and white, some speculate that the bold coloring provides effective camouflage. In patches of dense bamboo, an immobile giant panda is nearly invisible, and virtually disappears among snow covered rocky outcrops on a mountain slope. This theory does not work, however, when considering that giant pandas have no natural enemies to hide from. Another thought is that the pattern may accentuate social signals in some way, or help giant pandas to identify one another from a distance so they can avoid socializing, as they are typically a solitary animal. Another theory suggests that the black absorbs heat while the white reflects it, helping giant pandas maintain an even temperature. Unfortunately, there is no one conclusive theory as to why giant pandas are black and white.

The giant panda has lived in bamboo forests for several million years. It is a highly specialized animal, with unique adaptations. The panda's thick, wooly coat keeps it warm in the cool forests of its habitat. Giant pandas have large molar teeth and strong jaw muscles for crushing tough bamboo. Many people find these chunky, lumbering animals to be cute, but giant pandas can be as dangerous as any other bear. 
 
About the size of an American black bear, giant pandas stand between 2 and 3 feet (60 to 90 centimeters) tall at the shoulder (on all four legs), and reach 4 to 6 feet (1.2 to 1.8 meters) long. Males are larger than females, weighing up to 250 pounds (113 kilograms) in the wild. Females rarely reach 220 pounds (104 kilograms). 

nationalzoo.si.edu/animals/giant-panda

[brobear]

Whitish or cream spectacles encircle these bears' eyes. The light color variably extends down to the animals' throats and chests, giving each individual a unique set of markings. Andean bears' thick coats are usually either black or brown, occasionally tinged with red. Each individual spectacled bear has its own distinctive set, or "fingerprint," of distinct cream or whitish markings on its head, throat and chest.

Andean bears grow 5 to 6 feet (1.5 to 1.8 meters) long and stand 2 to 3 feet (0.6 to 0.9 meters) high at the shoulder. Males grow up to 30 percent larger than females, and weigh up to 340 pounds (154 kilograms). Females rarely grow heavier than 180 pounds (81 kilograms). 
 
nationalzoo.si.edu/animals/andean-bear

[brobear]

animals.sandiegozoo.org/animals/andean-spectacled-bear 
 
SIZE
Up to 6.5 feet (1.8 meters) long; males are up to 50 percent larger than females

Height: Up to 31 inches (80 centimeters) tall at the shoulder

Weight: Females: 130 to 176 pounds (60 to 80 kilograms)

Males: 220 to 386 pounds (100 to 175 kilograms)

[brobear]

Giant Panda

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Giant Panda

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Andean Bear 

[brobear]

Andean Bear

[brobear]

Neither of these two bears are known for their strength and ferocity. The media has given them both a cuddly "teddy bear" image. But make no mistake; each of these two bears can be dangerous to a foolish man. Neither of these two omnivores consume a great deal of meat, but the Andean bear does hunt and kill and feeds of carrion much more so than the giant panda. Nevertheless, they are both two of the most vegetarian of living bears.

The Andean bear is the least muscular of living bears. So (imo) the giant panda should have some degree of strength advantage while the Andean bear should have some degree of fighting skills advantage. I would personally (just my opinion) call this a 50/50 face-off.

[brobear]

Andean bear max size:

Overview (AI)

The confirmed weight of an Andean bear, also known as a spectacled bear, can range from 80–440 lbs (36–200 kg), depending on the bear's sex:
Males: Can weigh up to 340 lbs (154 kg) and be up to 30% larger than females
Females: Rarely weigh more than 180 lbs (81 kg) 
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www.dimensions.com/element/spectacled-bear-andean-bear 
 
Height:
2’-3’ | .61-.91 m
Length:
5’-6’ | 1.52-1.85 m
Standing Height:
5’3”-6’3" | 1.6-1.9 m
Weight:
80-440 lb | 36-200 kg
Males:

Height (Shoulder): 2’6”-3’ | .76-.91 m

Length: 5’6”-6’ | 1.7-1.85 m

Weight: 220-440 lb | 100-200 kg
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Females:

Height (Shoulder): 2’-2’6” | .61-.76 m

Length: 5’-5’6” | 1.52-1.68 m

Weight: 80-180 lb | 36-82 kg

Scientific Name:
Tremarctos ornatus
Lifespan:
20 years (wild); up to 35 years (captivity)
 

[brobear]

A poster says.... This bear was possibly intimidated by human presence and seemed slightly overwhelmed when it faced the dogs.

[brobear]

Any bear or cat would be

[brobear]

Rather than copy and paste a bunch of posts, I will say this. Members of the Carnival are very impressed with the Andean bear and post various reasons why it should be the stronger bear. However, the Andean bear is said to be the least muscular of the eight species.
Again, the panda is looked upon as a big, fluffy, black and white teddy bear. Big mistake. I give this face-off a 50/50 - my opinion.  
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No size comparison pictures for these guys found.

[brobear]

Nov 26, 2022 1:48:33 GMT -5 brobear said:

Andean bear, giant panda, and sloth bear are medium-size and same-size bears. The sun bear is the smallest of bears.

domainofthebears.proboards.com/thread/1514/same-size-bears