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Post by brobear on Jul 30, 2024 9:05:12 GMT -5
Mountain gorillas are considered blackbacks until they develop silver hair on their backs and become silverbacks at around 12 years old. However, they don't reach their full adult size until they're about 15 years old. Note: both the male gorilla and the male brown bear are considered full-grown at 12 years old, but continue growing until around 15 years old.  |
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Post by Montezuma on Jul 31, 2024 22:12:19 GMT -5
Basically, black bears are smaller than tiger so they indeed try to avoid tigers. Young individuals show panic as all young bears around the world try to avoid adult large predators like cougars, wolves, and adult bears. However, adults, especially males, are known to show calmness while encountering tigers and they are even known to stand their ground and fend off tigers as well (David meanwell, Baikov, V.S. Kramtvos), and not all tigers are bear hunters since some tiger hunt bear to some extent (Tkachenko, Sergey Kolchin,Svetlana Soutyrina). No matter to what extent tigers hunt black bears, the day-nighy behaviour pattern and elevation of black bear remains unchanged which means tigers don't force them to change their habitat or behaviour as leopards in India and cougars in America are forced to, instead brown bear determine black bear activity in Amur by forcing them to become nocturnal and occupy higher elevation in order to avoid brown bear. So that why one shouldn't think that tigers dominate bears as they do to leopards.
Whenever the word bear is mentioned, it's mostly unclear that what it's age, sex or species; speculations in accounts fill the holes a lot as well.
What basically clear is that the adult male brown bear (just as American Grizzly, European Brown bear) remains unchallenged and is simply avoided (Sysoev, Batalov, Linkov, Aramliev) whereas young and females, rarely, fall prey to tigers in ambushes and very rarely fights just as wolves preying on hibernating young bears in America. The adult male class treat tigers, of any sex or age, just as they treat wolves and other felids. To them except man and larger bear, nothing to threat.
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Post by brobear on Aug 2, 2024 8:37:29 GMT -5
Let me add this to your list of historic phrases. This is true; not an exaggeration. |
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Post by fantasticstruggle788 on Aug 8, 2024 11:50:46 GMT -5
Part 2: This perspective is applicable to the Asiatic black bear. However, regarding the brown bear, our observations, along with the data from G. Gorokhov (1973), suggest otherwise. The brown bear is not only capable of resisting a tiger but often pursues the tiger and attacks first during encounters: (Table in 3 parts) Part 1: books.google.dz/books/content?id=NbMdAQAAIAAJ&hl=fr&pg=PA11&img=1&pgis=1&dq=%D0%BF%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%B2%D1%8B%D0%BC&sig=ACfU3U2iZGoiBdWRcd7PDi2wc1IyiTeG1A&edge=0Part 2: books.google.dz/books/content?id=NbMdAQAAIAAJ&hl=fr&pg=PA11&img=1&pgis=1&dq=%D1%81%D0%BB%D1%83%D1%87%D0%B0%D0%B5%D0%B2&sig=ACfU3U0Vzx5MNQvpM3l3HzAqS8YrbyHMlg&edge=0Part 3:https://books.google.dz/books/content?id=FB8JAAAAIAAJ&hl=fr&pg=PA11&img=1&pgis=1&dq=%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BB%D1%8C%D0%B7%D1%83++%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%B3%D1%80%D0%B0&sig=ACfU3U3_WJl2DOHua6H3txRb0IdVh6tP7A&edge=0 The outcome of the struggle is more often in favor of the tiger, but there are also quite a few cases where the bear managed to kill the opponent. Given the relatively low overall population of tigers, the death of individual tigers due to brown bears can significantly impact the population's state. Since in such encounters it is more likely that weakened individuals, including injured ones, will perish, it is possible that the activity of the brown bear helps eliminate potential man-eaters from the tiger population. Indeed, in the Russian Far East, where tigers have long coexisted with brown bears, cases of man-eating were always rare or not recorded at all over long periods. In other parts of the range, a different picture is observed (Corbett, 1957). Studies of the diet and habits of wandering bears (shatuns) have shown that for a successful conclusion of their active wintering, not only the high number of ungulates and the comparatively mild winter conditions typical of the eastern slopes of the Sikhote-Alin were important, but also the presence of a predator like the tiger, whose kills the wandering bears frequently 'hunted.' The considered materials convince us that the method of winter tracking is effective even concerning brown bears. Such observations can be conducted not only on wandering bears. Depending on the timing of the establishment of continuous snow cover and the duration of the bears' wakefulness, they can be tracked at the beginning of winter for 1–1.5 months. In the spring, due to the uneven distribution of snow cover, only fragmentary observations of individual bears are possible." Source: www.google.dz/books/edition/%D0%91%D1%8E%D0%BB%D0%BB%D0%B5%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BD%D1%8C_%D0%9C%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%B2%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%B3/NbMdAQAAIAAJ?hl=frThe original text (did my best to collect a number of pictures from the book together, and i also added snippets of the text that are unavailable in pictures) Part 1: attachment.tapatalk-cdn.com/86340/202408/3792_ce76b248b6a2e78311c8649dcf0879dd.jpgPart 2: attachment.tapatalk-cdn.com/86340/202408/3792_d221d9c3f47a13b74c0404427fba30f6_t.jpg |
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Post by fantasticstruggle788 on Aug 27, 2024 9:57:42 GMT -5
Quote; "The tiger looked far more imposing than those in zoo cages and, at the same time, there was a bear, of which there are many on Sakhalin. The two beasts, separated by a few dozen meters, engaged in a deadly struggle while I hastily retreated to a safer place, overwhelmed by the terrifying growls and roars that made the hair on my back stand up." ___________________________________________________________________ Note; "there was a bear." This might have been a moon bear (male or female), an adolescent brown bear, or perhaps even an adult brown she-bear. Which ever it was, I'm sure that the tiger ambushed it from behind or from one side. We just don't know how this struggle turned out. Can i post a very, VERY old, story of a female black bear that killed a large american panther (probably a puma) ? It was frequently mentioned in Various sources from the 19th century. |
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Post by brobear on Aug 27, 2024 10:12:05 GMT -5
Quote; "The tiger looked far more imposing than those in zoo cages and, at the same time, there was a bear, of which there are many on Sakhalin. The two beasts, separated by a few dozen meters, engaged in a deadly struggle while I hastily retreated to a safer place, overwhelmed by the terrifying growls and roars that made the hair on my back stand up." ___________________________________________________________________ Note; "there was a bear." This might have been a moon bear (male or female), an adolescent brown bear, or perhaps even an adult brown she-bear. Which ever it was, I'm sure that the tiger ambushed it from behind or from one side. We just don't know how this struggle turned out. Can i post a very, VERY old, story of a female black bear that killed a large american panther (probably a puma) ? It was frequently mentioned in Various sources from the 19th century. Yes; please do. |
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