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Post by brobear on Jun 11, 2023 5:30:03 GMT -5
/\ Actually Romeo a Bengal tiger killed one of the biggest polar bears in captivity but it was done before Animal Right Acts existed. What is the source to this story?
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Post by Ransik on Jun 11, 2023 5:37:38 GMT -5
/\ Actually Romeo a Bengal tiger killed one of the biggest polar bears in captivity but it was done before Animal Right Acts existed. How big that polar bear was? It happened over 100 years ago polar bears diet was poor.
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Post by OldGreenGrolar on Jun 11, 2023 5:39:45 GMT -5
/\ Actually Romeo a Bengal tiger killed one of the biggest polar bears in captivity but it was done before Animal Right Acts existed. How big that polar bear was? It happened over 100 years ago polar bears diet was poor. Captive polar bears weigh 1025 pounds at most. Not sure about the weight of the bear. I agree with you a wild male polar bear will beat a male Bengal tiger and all big cats.
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Post by OldGreenGrolar on Jun 11, 2023 5:40:14 GMT -5
/\ Actually Romeo a Bengal tiger killed one of the biggest polar bears in captivity but it was done before Animal Right Acts existed. What is the source to this story? Give me a second to find that account.
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Post by OldGreenGrolar on Jun 11, 2023 5:46:12 GMT -5
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Post by OldGreenGrolar on Jun 11, 2023 6:05:02 GMT -5
![](http://i.imgur.com/GObp3oW.jpg) While there are some big polar bears in captivity, the wild ones are generally heavier.
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Post by OldGreenGrolar on Jun 11, 2023 6:06:53 GMT -5
The size of polar bears in captivity: Unlike the brown bear, polar bears in captivity are rarely overweight or particularly large, possibly as a reaction to the warm conditions of most zoos. www.projectnoah.org/spottings/11801217Captive polar bears. In an ideal world there would be no polar bears in zoos, for if ever there is an animal that doesn’t belong in a zoo it’s the polar bear. These Arctic giants have huge ranges in the wild, traveling many of hundreds of miles in their search for food. They have evolved over millennia to exist and thrive in the harsh environment of the Arctic. It is our belief, based on considered scientific evidence, that polar bears are a species that should never be bred in captivity, nor should they be actively sourced for captivity from the wild. However, even if this ideal state were to be achieved, there would still be problems and issues around what to do with cubs found orphaned in the wild and “problem bears” captured in populated areas. Sadly, most captive polar bears are kept in facilities, and often in climates, which are totally unsuitable. Only a very few facilities provide sufficient space for the bears to live anything approaching a contended and fulfilling life. So it is not surprising that many captive polar bears manifest symptoms of extreme stress, such as continually shaking their heads, pacing up and down their enclosures or swimming in a stereotypical fashion. Captive polar bears, along with orcas and other cetaceans, suffer from more sickness and psychologically related illness than any other animals kept in captivity. We are compiling a comprehensive directory of all the polar bears currently kept in captivity and of the facilities where they are kept. If you would like to help with this work then please get in touch. We have three main goals: An end to all captive polar bear breeding programmes. Many of the cubs born in captivity die within a few years, or even months, of birth. Breeding polar bears in captivity can never “save the bears” from extinction, nor repopulate the wild. No captive-born polar bear has ever been successfully released into the wild; indeed to do so would be contrary to IUCN regulations. The upgrading and improvement of substandard facilities holding captive polar bears to provide modern, state of the art “off exhibit” and “on exhibit” areas that meet the highest possible standards for housing, enrichment, general welfare and veterinary services. Air conditioning, water features and a total area of at least 8,000 square metres (2 acres) per animal are, we believe, the minimum essential for high welfare standards to be maintained. Where the above cannot be achieved facilities must be closed, with the polar bears transferred to modern, high standard facilities in sanctuaries or zoos. www.bearconservation.org.uk/polar-bears-in-zoos/Even animals that appear healthy can be sick. For example: spotted hyenas seem to be capable of picking out sick wildebeest which look healthy to human eyes according to National Geographic.
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Post by arctozilla on Aug 30, 2023 8:27:55 GMT -5
Remember that if polar bear fur shows overheating it means it's sick. Polar bear overheating means that it's sick.
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Post by OldGreenGrolar on Aug 30, 2023 9:20:57 GMT -5
Remember that if polar bear fur shows overheating it means it's sick. Polar bear overheating means that it's sick. Polar bears together with cetaceans are one of the least adaptable animals in the world. Polar bears do not do well outside their naturale environment.
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Post by brobear on Aug 30, 2023 14:55:06 GMT -5
Remember that if polar bear fur shows overheating it means it's sick. Polar bear overheating means that it's sick. Polar bears together with cetaceans are one of the least adaptable animals in the world. Polar bears do not do well outside their naturale environment. I agree with Mr. Green here. A polar bear is so well insulated for his arctic environment, that in a warmer climate (above freezing), he can overheat easily.
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Post by arctozilla on Sept 29, 2023 6:55:40 GMT -5
Tiger fanatics are the kings of ignorance. They came up with "if polar bears are weak in captivity then so are tigers" which is so inaccurate. Lions, tigers and polar bears are animals of different habitats, polar bear is made to stay exclusively in the arctic whereas lions and tigers in various habitats like woods, deserts and jungles. Thus, lions and tigers are healthier than polar bears in captivity, that's a fact. This is why polar bears far rarer than tigers, lions and brown bears in captivity and also why brown bears fared much better to big cats than polar bears did.
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Post by brobear on Sept 29, 2023 8:51:02 GMT -5
Tiger fanatics are the kings of ignorance. They came up with "if polar bears are weak in captivity then so are tigers" which is so inaccurate. Lions, tigers and polar bears are animals of different habitats, polar bear is made to stay in the arctic whereas lions and tigers in various habitats like woods, desert and jungle. Lions and tigers are healthier than polar bears in captivity, that's a fact. This is why polar bears far rarer than tigers, lions and brown bears in captivity and also why brown bears fared much better to big cats than polar bears did. When it comes to the 19th and early-to-mid 20th century, lions, tigers, and other big cats were fed meat in captivity; their natural food. Bears were fed on vegetation and received little if any meat. The big cats grew bigger in captivity than in the wild. Polar bears, even today, grow larger in the wild than in a cage.
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Post by arctozilla on Oct 9, 2023 4:13:10 GMT -5
Reply #31 by this logic I would say "if tiger sand sharks can stay in captivity so can the great white sharks" <——— you can't compare animals of different habitats to each other when it comes to health in captivity. Period
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Post by Montezuma on Oct 16, 2023 2:10:09 GMT -5
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Post by brobear on May 31, 2024 9:07:30 GMT -5
The Truth:
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Post by brobear on Jun 8, 2024 10:54:14 GMT -5
Another typical big cat fanboy. Fyi, these guys worship the jaguar because of his girth (LOL) which is impressive until he is compared with a bear of equal HBL. Quote, "Jagaur is perfect killing machine. I would back Jaguar Against similar size animal. Either its bear any thing else. The devasting skull bite on tapir could be best example, how they deal with similar size animal." *Note; Silverback gorillas kill other silverback gorillas with a skull bite. Jaguars got used to killing in this method simply because they are used to hunting smaller prey than other big cats. *Note; The jaguar is often said to be the strongest of the big cats when compared at HBL parity. However, when compared in this manner, any species of bear is stronger.
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Post by Granolah on Jun 24, 2024 11:26:32 GMT -5
Oh, I’m a steppe brown bear now
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Post by brobear on Jul 22, 2024 5:41:14 GMT -5
Credits to Warsaw.... carnivora.net/siberian-tiger-interactions-with-brown-bears-asiat-t101.html - Aug 07, 2018#3 The adult male brown bear class appears instead virtually invulnerable from Amur tiger predation, as pretty much straightforward when considering size, mass, power and strength of healthy enough individuals and their very tough and aggressive disposition. Actually the opposite occurrence of adult male brown bear potentially posing a threat to Amur tigers, even adult males, seems prevalent as assessed from kill disputes which appear invariably totally dominated by the large adult male brown bears weighing in excess of 300 kg (Miquelle et al, 1996; Miquelle, 2005). In my opinion this bear class can even remain virtually completely unchallenged if already tested by any tiger in a previous experience ended up without drastic consequences for the tiger able to break the fight and run away. _______________________________________________________ 300kg = 661.39 pounds Large / very large adult Asiatic black bear males have been reliably weighed by well known scientists in the Russian Far East in the region of 200 kg during Fall. Arguably there are even higher possibly reliable weights up to around 250 kg. Weightwise they are therefore comparable to the heaviest adult Amur tiger males weighed by scientists in the last 50 years (max non-adjusted 212 kg or possibly 225 kg) or retained reliably weighed in general (max non-adjusted 254 kg). I would therefore add that in my opinion these large / very large Asiatic black bears weighing some 200 kg can definitely hold their own with respect of adult male Amur tigers of similar weight and can even prevail depending from circumstances. _______________________________________________________ 200kg = 441 pounds / 212kg = 467 pounds / 250kg = 551 pounds / 254kg = 560 pounds.
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Post by brobear on Jul 22, 2024 11:52:37 GMT -5
theundertaker45 said: "The Big 4 Terrestial Carnivores" African Lion / Bengal Tiger / Kodiak brown bear / Polar Bear ![](https://i.imgur.com/aajcuNP.png)
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Post by brobear on Jul 23, 2024 9:03:28 GMT -5
/\ Actually Romeo a Bengal tiger killed one of the biggest polar bears in captivity but it was done before Animal Right Acts existed. When polar and I first opened this blog site, I posted probably just about every known fight between a big cat and a bear that was ever published by a newspaper. Then, after learning just how unreliable newspapers are - especially those printed during the 19th and 20th centuries, I deleted everything. These stories are meaningless. Just recently, the tiger fans were singing "zippity doo dah" over a fake story told in a Russian newspaper - Odyr and Misha. ________________________________________________________________________________________________ No full-grown male brown bear has ever been killed by a tiger and certainly no healthy adult male polar bear.
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