Post by brobear on Feb 11, 2023 7:41:21 GMT -5
The kill tactic most often used by a big cat to kill large ungulates, once ambushed, is either strangulation or suffocation. Strangulation is accomplished by gripping the animals throat in his jaws and holding on tight for a reasonably short period of time. Death is not immediate. Suffocation is accomplished by the big cat placing his mouth over the muzzle of the ungulate, thus completely covering the prey animal's nose and mouth. Like strangulation, death is not immediate.
Smaller animals are either killed with a skull-bite or a bite to the back of the neck at the base of the skull, thus crushing the spine. Both of these methods are quick and immediate. Every bear killed by a tiger has been neck-bites.
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Unlike cats, bears do not have specific killing methods passed down genetically after roughly 20-million years of ambush predator evolution.
shaggygod.proboards.com/thread/653/brown-bear-predator
Bears typically kill using brute force and do not seem to exhibit any stereotyped killing postures or behaviours as seen in canids and felids (R. Boertje, pers. comm.; J. Hechtel, pers. comm.). Polar bears and brown bears have been observed to attack their prey both with bites and crushing forepaw slaps, apparently to whatever region of the prey’s body is accessible (Murie, 1985; Boertje et al., 1988; Case & Stevenson, 1991; M. Ramsay, pers. comm; J. Hechtel, pers. comm.).
Sacco, T. and Van Valkenburgh, B. (2004), Ecomorphological indicators of feeding behaviour in the bears (Carnivora: Ursidae). Journal of Zoology, 263: 41–54.
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First posted by Ursus arctos middendorffi ( the poster )... A brown bear would be much better able to gain dominant positions and exhaust the other animal over time. This is the general strategy they do when fighting each other (with the end result typically being a tired bear backing down or outright fleeing) as well as often when killing other animals; if unable to cause serious injuries they seem to simply exhaust it through grappling to the point it is no longer able to defend itself, and then slowly kill it. This can be seen in a few clips on youtube, such as "grizzly eats moose alive", "brown bear predation of wild boar (Russia)", and it looks like this was the case in "bear killing bear", a slideshow of a bear killing another one of similar size-note that it moved itself to the back of the other animal where it couldn't effectively fight back.
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httBear attack—A unique fatality in Finland
Fatalities due to animal bites, the vast majority of which are associated with dogs and big cats, are relatively uncommon and rarely described in the literature. Especially rare are fatal bear attacks on humans. We herein present a forensic investigation of a fatal assault, involving numerous bites on a 42-year-old man in Finland by an European brown bear (Ursus arctos arctos).
Certain conditions are known to increase the risk of a bear attack; a sudden encoun- ter, a food-conditioned bear and proximity to the bear's den (15) as well as the presence of cubs, a wounded bear and the presence of dogs (16). According to the cases reviewed, the brown bear tends to attack the central body regions, including the head by means of biting, hitting, and clawing (5)(6)(7). This is in keeping with previous observations made in which char- acteristic locations for bear bite wounds have been shown to be the face, scalp, and neck (15). ...ps://www.researchgate.net/publication/5450613_Bear_attack-A_unique_fatality_in_Finland
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The bear paw is capable of delivering a powerful force, resulting in significant
blunt trauma, particularly to the head and neck, ribcage, and abdominal cavity, especially
solid organ rupture. Therefore victims of bear attacks should be evaluated for occult
blunt trauma.
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Notorious Grizzly Bear by W.P. Hubbard - 1960 - fighting Ability.
From the stories I have heard, when a grizzly does battle with another, he does not stand up on his hind legs, as he is often described and pictured as doing. He fights on all fours, sometimes rearing up to a half-standing position as he bites and tears with his powerful jaws, or smashes and slashes with his mighty paws and claws. No holds are barred, but throat grips and the crippling of the opponents legs, neck, and back, along the shoulders, seem to be the predominating tactics used. Their fights are savage and terrific affairs, and some last a long time.
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Go to - Bear Canine Teeth and Claws too see video - First posted by Grizzly Claws.
The Brown bears are extremely efficient fast biters, whereas the big cats are killing biters.
The Brown bears can constantly bite fast, unlikely the big cats' killing bite method, they have developed another technique to strip their preys alive.
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*Conclusion: Cats kill by specific instinctive methods. A big cat is a hunter; a specialist. He is an ambush predator. He depends on these ingrained killing methods to get the job done.
A bear is a mauler and a brawler. He is a wrestler; a fighter. He is also a kleptoparasite, meaning that he is no stranger to facing other predators and displacing them from their kills. When a bear fights with another predator, he mauls his adversary, leaving it with bleeding wounds and broken bones. A bear is unconcerned as to whether or not his adversary is left alive or dead, just so long as it has been disabled.
Smaller animals are either killed with a skull-bite or a bite to the back of the neck at the base of the skull, thus crushing the spine. Both of these methods are quick and immediate. Every bear killed by a tiger has been neck-bites.
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Unlike cats, bears do not have specific killing methods passed down genetically after roughly 20-million years of ambush predator evolution.
shaggygod.proboards.com/thread/653/brown-bear-predator
Bears typically kill using brute force and do not seem to exhibit any stereotyped killing postures or behaviours as seen in canids and felids (R. Boertje, pers. comm.; J. Hechtel, pers. comm.). Polar bears and brown bears have been observed to attack their prey both with bites and crushing forepaw slaps, apparently to whatever region of the prey’s body is accessible (Murie, 1985; Boertje et al., 1988; Case & Stevenson, 1991; M. Ramsay, pers. comm; J. Hechtel, pers. comm.).
Sacco, T. and Van Valkenburgh, B. (2004), Ecomorphological indicators of feeding behaviour in the bears (Carnivora: Ursidae). Journal of Zoology, 263: 41–54.
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First posted by Ursus arctos middendorffi ( the poster )... A brown bear would be much better able to gain dominant positions and exhaust the other animal over time. This is the general strategy they do when fighting each other (with the end result typically being a tired bear backing down or outright fleeing) as well as often when killing other animals; if unable to cause serious injuries they seem to simply exhaust it through grappling to the point it is no longer able to defend itself, and then slowly kill it. This can be seen in a few clips on youtube, such as "grizzly eats moose alive", "brown bear predation of wild boar (Russia)", and it looks like this was the case in "bear killing bear", a slideshow of a bear killing another one of similar size-note that it moved itself to the back of the other animal where it couldn't effectively fight back.
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httBear attack—A unique fatality in Finland
Fatalities due to animal bites, the vast majority of which are associated with dogs and big cats, are relatively uncommon and rarely described in the literature. Especially rare are fatal bear attacks on humans. We herein present a forensic investigation of a fatal assault, involving numerous bites on a 42-year-old man in Finland by an European brown bear (Ursus arctos arctos).
Certain conditions are known to increase the risk of a bear attack; a sudden encoun- ter, a food-conditioned bear and proximity to the bear's den (15) as well as the presence of cubs, a wounded bear and the presence of dogs (16). According to the cases reviewed, the brown bear tends to attack the central body regions, including the head by means of biting, hitting, and clawing (5)(6)(7). This is in keeping with previous observations made in which char- acteristic locations for bear bite wounds have been shown to be the face, scalp, and neck (15). ...ps://www.researchgate.net/publication/5450613_Bear_attack-A_unique_fatality_in_Finland
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shaggygod.proboards.com/thread/11...rful-force
The bear paw is capable of delivering a powerful force, resulting in significant
blunt trauma, particularly to the head and neck, ribcage, and abdominal cavity, especially
solid organ rupture. Therefore victims of bear attacks should be evaluated for occult
blunt trauma.
_________________________________________________
Notorious Grizzly Bear by W.P. Hubbard - 1960 - fighting Ability.
From the stories I have heard, when a grizzly does battle with another, he does not stand up on his hind legs, as he is often described and pictured as doing. He fights on all fours, sometimes rearing up to a half-standing position as he bites and tears with his powerful jaws, or smashes and slashes with his mighty paws and claws. No holds are barred, but throat grips and the crippling of the opponents legs, neck, and back, along the shoulders, seem to be the predominating tactics used. Their fights are savage and terrific affairs, and some last a long time.
_________________________________________________
Go to - Bear Canine Teeth and Claws too see video - First posted by Grizzly Claws.
The Brown bears are extremely efficient fast biters, whereas the big cats are killing biters.
The Brown bears can constantly bite fast, unlikely the big cats' killing bite method, they have developed another technique to strip their preys alive.
_________________________________________________
*Conclusion: Cats kill by specific instinctive methods. A big cat is a hunter; a specialist. He is an ambush predator. He depends on these ingrained killing methods to get the job done.
A bear is a mauler and a brawler. He is a wrestler; a fighter. He is also a kleptoparasite, meaning that he is no stranger to facing other predators and displacing them from their kills. When a bear fights with another predator, he mauls his adversary, leaving it with bleeding wounds and broken bones. A bear is unconcerned as to whether or not his adversary is left alive or dead, just so long as it has been disabled.
