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Post by brobear on Jan 31, 2023 12:11:19 GMT -5
Arctotherium angustidens v Titanoboa cerrejonensis - credits to OldGreenGrolar. Arctotherium angustidens Arctotherium is an extinct genus of South American short-faced bears within Ursidae of the late Pliocene through the end of the Pleistocene. They were endemic to South America living from ~2.0–0.01 Ma, existing for approximately 1.99 million years. Their closest relatives were the North American short-faced bears of genus Arctodus (A. pristinus and A. simus). The closest living relative would be the Spectacled bear (Tremarctos ornatus). A specimen of A. angustidens from Buenos Aires shows an individual estimated, using the humerus, to weight between 983–2,042 kg (2,170–4,500 lb), though the authors consider the upper limit as improbable and say that 1,588 kg (3,500 lb) is more likely, however, using the radious, the mass estimate shrinks to a maximum of 1,108 kg (2,440 lb).
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Post by brobear on Jan 31, 2023 12:12:14 GMT -5
Titanoboa cerrejonensis Titanoboa, meaning "titanic boa," is a genus of snake that lived approximately 58–60 million years ago, during the Paleocene epoch, a 10-million-year period immediately following the dinosaur extinction event. The only known species is the Titanoboa cerrejonensis, the largest snake ever discovered, which supplanted the previous record holder, Gigantophis. By comparing the sizes and shapes of its fossilized vertebrae to those of extant snakes, researchers estimated that the largest individuals of T. cerrejonensis found had a total length around 12.8 m (42 ft) and weighed about 1,135 kg (2,500 lb; 1.12 long tons; 1.25 short tons).
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Post by brobear on Jan 31, 2023 12:21:41 GMT -5
Since Titanoboa was probably an aquatic predator; prowling the tropical rivers of S. America, much like the modern anaconda, except perhaps never coming on land far from the waters' edge, this fight should take place in a river. Therefore, let's say that this particular battle erupts in this shallow section of a jungle river just three-feet deep. This way (imo) each of these monarchs of S. America have an even chance for a victory. *It begins; the giant bear is simply walking from point-A to point-B. In doing so, he must wade across this large shallow section of the muddy river, as he has done many times in the past. But, this time he blunders into, and onto, a gigantic boa. The huge snake believes himself being attacked; therefore he retaliates. The fight is on.....................
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Post by arctozilla on May 14, 2023 3:51:08 GMT -5
Titanoboa wins. It hunted large crocs. It would make short works of any carnivorans inc. the striped kitty
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2023 7:47:42 GMT -5
The mean estimate for Titanoboa is 1,135kg. The max estimate is 1,819kg.
1,819kg snake vs 1,108kg bear. Snake wins.
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Post by brobear on May 14, 2023 7:56:57 GMT -5
The mean estimate for Titanoboa is 1,135kg. The max estimate is 1,819kg. 1,819kg snake vs 1,108kg bear. Snake wins. 4,010.21 pound boa vs 2,442.72 pound bear. !
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