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Post by Montezuma on May 29, 2021 19:21:00 GMT -5
Michel Pastoureau mentioned an animal, which partisipated in the Roman Circus Games, in his book, called a "tiger" yet statues and depictions of it looked very dog-like and had no stripes. The animal was brown. Could you show me the picture. I like to see pictures like that.
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Post by brobear on Oct 12, 2021 12:36:36 GMT -5
Oso Andino is in Colombia. Guardian of the forest, the moor, its water, life and stories that led to nature to give attributions for its connection between the earth and the ancient gods - Colombia ( Andean Bear )
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Post by brobear on Nov 5, 2021 0:35:34 GMT -5
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Post by Montezuma on Feb 16, 2022 20:24:27 GMT -5
I kniw, we have a thread of opinions of experts favouring bears over lions but i think these following post deserve a separate mention as these tell about that ,king of tge beasts is grizzly instead of lion and the bear preponderate lions in many features.From Albert S.Evans, a spanish Californian history writter,
"The lion has generally been represented as the "king of the beasts", and numberless are the stories of his courage, strength, and ferocity. The truth is, the lion is nothing but a great overgrown cat, and his courage is just that of a cat on a large scale, and nothing more. A cat will fight when cornered, from sheer excess of cowardice, but she always prefers running"
"But the stories of dangerous characters of the grizzly, unlike those relating the lion, are not and cannot be exaggrated. I know from observation that the oldest hunters are the most afraid of a contest with grizzly and take the greatest pains to avoid one".
books.google.com.pk/books?id=I4lCAAAAIAAJ&pg=PA58&dq=the+grizzly+bear+is+the+real+king+of+the+beasts&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiEi6v91YX2AhVjR_EDHX5bD68Q6AF6BAgIEAM
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Post by Montezuma on Feb 16, 2022 21:11:53 GMT -5
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Post by Montezuma on Feb 16, 2022 21:16:15 GMT -5
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Post by Montezuma on Feb 17, 2022 19:54:18 GMT -5
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Post by Montezuma on Feb 17, 2022 19:56:02 GMT -5
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Post by Montezuma on Feb 17, 2022 19:57:30 GMT -5
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Post by Montezuma on Feb 17, 2022 20:07:23 GMT -5
Animal expert, Clyde beatty says that "Lion is not the King of the animals rather the Grizzly bear is the real heavy weight champion."
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Post by tom on Feb 18, 2022 16:07:42 GMT -5
With regards to the Kodiak or a large Polar Bear there really isn't any other land based predator that can match them one on one. They are an apex predator regardless of where you could pluck them and put them around the world. Being that Bears are normally solitaire only a band of male Lions would have a chance at defeating one in a battle. In all likelihood one or more of those Lions would be seriously maimed or killed in the process.
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Post by brobear on Feb 24, 2022 5:37:50 GMT -5
This has been discussed briefly in several other topics, including "Bears surviving in Africa." Who best deserves the crown of "King of Beasts" - the Lion or the Brown Bear? No brown bear, ( IMO ) in his right mind, would ever consider attempting to displace a pride of lions from a carcass. If he did make such a foolish mistake, the lions would quickly change his mind. Brute strength, weight, durability, and stamina are all great advantages to have in a wild animal face-off, but these are topped by numbers. On the other side of the coin, with the exception of poorly-fed brown bears of barren environments such as the Himalayan red bear, the Tibetan blue bear, or the Gobi bear, a full-grown male brown bear could displace even the biggest African lion from his kill. Also ( IMO ) no lone lion would choose a full-grown male brown bear as potential prey to be ambushed. Therefore, which of these two great predators best deserves the crown? Would you vote for the original king - the loner or the more recent king - the gang boss? It's all a matter of choice.
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Post by brobear on Mar 10, 2022 16:22:59 GMT -5
Just ran into this newspaper account, its perfect for this thread i think, or the bear strength thread. A grizzly that was shot by a member of the Lewis and Clark party, survived 20 minutes with 10 gun shots, including 2 in the heart. He swam for half a mile also. Also, “a lion or a tiger fall dead instantly when shot on vital points” Lion or Brown bear; the real 'King of Beasts' ~
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Post by Montezuma on Apr 28, 2022 8:47:47 GMT -5
Here are the words of an early American pioneer: Man Meets Grizzly by Young and Beyers' "They talk of bears," said Preston, fixed upon mine, with still regard, his large gray eyes; "of bears in Arkansas. I was bred to the bear as well as to the 'bar', and through ten seasons hunted on the Red River with men of the woods, 'bar' hunters of the border, who have all the forest wisdom. I have read, too, what has been written by the great hunters, but none of them knew the bear of California. He is the sovereign of beasts; in strength, weight, endurance, and sagacity superior to the lion, and I doubt not has formerly destroyed some great and powerful tribe of lions on this continent." In this, to which lion he is reffereing? African lion or mountain lion? He says this continent lion, but which one?
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Post by Montezuma on Apr 28, 2022 8:49:31 GMT -5
Oso Andino is in Colombia. Guardian of the forest, the moor, its water, life and stories that led to nature to give attributions for its connection between the earth and the ancient gods - Colombia ( Andean Bear ) Wow, i want to know about the link to this post.
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Post by brobear on Apr 28, 2022 9:00:50 GMT -5
Here are the words of an early American pioneer: Man Meets Grizzly by Young and Beyers' "They talk of bears," said Preston, fixed upon mine, with still regard, his large gray eyes; "of bears in Arkansas. I was bred to the bear as well as to the 'bar', and through ten seasons hunted on the Red River with men of the woods, 'bar' hunters of the border, who have all the forest wisdom. I have read, too, what has been written by the great hunters, but none of them knew the bear of California. He is the sovereign of beasts; in strength, weight, endurance, and sagacity superior to the lion, and I doubt not has formerly destroyed some great and powerful tribe of lions on this continent." In this, to which lion he is reffereing? African lion or mountain lion? He says this continent lion, but which one? He is referring to "The King of Beasts" - the lion and not the cougar. And then ( quote ) "...has formerly destroyed some great and powerful tribe of lions on this continent." ( N. America ).
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Post by Montezuma on Apr 29, 2022 21:48:46 GMT -5
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Post by brobear on Apr 29, 2022 23:09:30 GMT -5
You can find, 'Man Meets Grizzly by Young and Beyers' and other great grizzly books on Amazon relatively cheap. ( not sure how much prices might have changed since Jan.1, 2021 ). I posted over on 'beargorillarealm'
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Post by Montezuma on Apr 30, 2022 21:11:27 GMT -5
Read preceding post. Past kings: Agriotherium africanum, Actotherium angustidens, Arctodus simus, and Ursus spelaeus - Living kings: grizzly and polar bear. These bears of both past and present were and are the dominant Carnivora of their individual domains. I would say that presently, spectacled bear is the king of the andes. American black bears are also kings of their domain were there are no grizzlies. And even a gaint panda is the lord of his hill until he does not encounter a tiger or a larger bear species.
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Post by Montezuma on Apr 30, 2022 21:16:34 GMT -5
www.indiantribalheritage.org/?p=4226 Tiger – a national symbol of India since Indus Valley Civilisation The Bengal tiger, or Royal Bengal tiger (Panthera tigris tigris), is a subspecies of tiger native to India, Bangladesh, Nepal and Bhutan. The Bengal tiger is the most numerous of the tiger subspecies — with populations estimated at 1,411 in India, 200 in Bangladesh, 155 in Nepal and 67–81 in Bhutan. The Bengal tiger has been a national symbol of India since about the 25th century BCE when it was displayed on the Pashupati seal of the Indus Valley Civilisation.The tiger was later the symbol of the Chola Empire from 300 CE to 1279 CE and is now designated as the official animal of India. The most significant immediate threat to the existence of wild tiger populations is the illegal trade in poached skins and body parts between India, Nepal and China. Source: Flora – Fauna on stamps: Animals of India–Indipex 2011 Address : florafaunaonstamp.blogspot.com/2011/02/animals-of-indiaindipex-2011.htmlDate Visited: Sat Sep 03 2011 14:27:45 GMT+0200 (CEST) National Animal The magnificent tiger, Panthera tigris is a striped animal. It has a thick yellow coat of fur with dark stripes. The combination of grace, strength, agility and enormous power has earned the tiger its pride of place as the national animal of India. Out of eight races of the species known, the Indian race, the Royal Bengal Tiger, is found throughout the country except in the north-western region and also in the neighbouring countries, Nepal, Bhutan and Bangladesh. To check the dwindling population of tigers in India, ‘Project Tiger’ was launched in April 1973. So far, 27 tiger reserves have been established in the country under this project, covering an area of 37,761 sq km. Source: National Animal – National Symbols – Know India: National Portal of India Address : india.gov.in/knowindia/national_animal.phpDate Visited: Sat Sep 03 2011 14:39:02 GMT+0200 (CEST) Here in my country, pakistan, people called lion as king of the jungle or king of the beasts. Since many people are illerterate, do they donot even know what a tiger is! They believe tiger is a cheetah. However, we call lion as "شیر" (Sher) or sometimes "ببرشیر" (Baber Sher).
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