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Post by OldGreenGrolar on Oct 18, 2020 11:32:48 GMT -5
The only weasel which overlaps in weight with a bear would be a megalitis ferox.
The sun bear and the Auverngne bears are the candidates.
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Post by brobear on Oct 26, 2020 5:00:26 GMT -5
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Post by OldGreenGrolar on Oct 26, 2020 5:15:37 GMT -5
That shadow bear in the size comparison does not seem to look like that of a brown bear. The shoulder hump is missing.
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Post by brobear on Oct 26, 2020 5:35:12 GMT -5
That shadow bear in the size comparison does not seem to look like that of a brown bear. The shoulder hump is missing. black bear.
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Post by OldGreenGrolar on Oct 26, 2020 5:40:41 GMT -5
I thought so. However, the forelimbs seem to be a bit too massive for a black bear in my opinion. I know a black bear has massive forelimbs but not as massive as that of a grizzly.
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Post by brobear on Oct 26, 2020 7:22:54 GMT -5
I thought so. However, the forelimbs seem to be a bit too massive for a black bear in my opinion. I know a black bear has massive forelimbs but not as massive as that of a grizzly. There are two front limbs and two hind limbs.
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Post by King Kodiak on Oct 26, 2020 8:11:21 GMT -5
Ok i found a bear with all its measurements and what i was saying was correct:
SLOTH BEAR-320 LBS.
LENGTH, INCLUDING TAIL-5 FT. 7 IN. HEIGHT WHEN STANDING UP-6 FT. 9 IN.
THAT IS A 1 FT. 2 IN DIFFERENCE. (0.3 METERS)
LIKE I SAID IN MY PREVIOUS POSTS, BROWN BEARS HIND LEGS ARE MORE THAN HALF METER LONG, AROUND 0.6 TO 0.7 METERS LONG, SO IT SHOULD EVEN BE MORE OF A DIFFERENCE IN BROWN BEARS.
CREDITED TO WILDFACT:
wildfact.com/forum/topic-bear-size?pid=125580#pid125580
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Post by brobear on Oct 26, 2020 8:32:15 GMT -5
This bear was ( I would assume ) either knocked out with drugs or shot by a hunter. Was his height measured from the top of his head ( like measuring the height of a person ) or from his nose to the floor ( looking up )? We can only assume from the top of his head to the floor. Good find Kodiak. Forgot to mention. This big male sloth bear's skull is three inches bigger in circumference than his neck - unlike the brown bear.
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Post by King Kodiak on Oct 26, 2020 8:42:29 GMT -5
I would assume from the top of his head to the floor, like it should be. That is one tall sloth bear at 6 ft, 9 in. Its obvious that there would be a difference between head and body length and bipedal height as for the latter the hind legs need to be included.
Correct. Good observation.
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Post by brobear on Oct 26, 2020 8:48:21 GMT -5
I would assume from the top of his head to the floor, like it should be. That is one tall sloth bear at 6 ft, 9 in. Its obvious that there would be a difference between head and body length and bipedal height as for the latter the hind legs need to be included.
Correct. Good observation. But we don't see it here: Reply #30
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Post by brobear on Oct 26, 2020 8:53:12 GMT -5
6 feet 9 inches tall is just 3 inches short of 7 feet. This is why I'm thinking more and more that this bear was measured from his nose down to his feet.
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Post by King Kodiak on Oct 26, 2020 9:00:46 GMT -5
We cant go by reply #30 as there is no info. We have to go by reply #35.
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Post by brobear on Oct 26, 2020 9:10:09 GMT -5
We cant go by reply #30 as there is no info. We have to go by reply #35. Reply #35 is good. But a sloth bear standing 6 feet nine inches tall...!!?!! That's 2 inches taller than Marshal Matt Dillon. I suspect this bear was measured lying down from toes to nose. We are still left uncertain.
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Post by King Kodiak on Oct 26, 2020 9:13:25 GMT -5
We cant go by reply #30 as there is no info. We have to go by reply #35. Reply #35 is good. But a sloth bear standing 6 feet nine inches tall...!!?!! That's 2 inches taller than Marshal Matt Dillon. I suspect this bear was measured lying down from toes to nose. We are still left uncertain. Well, you wanted a bear with all its measurements and you got it. 6 feet 9 in tall for a sloth bear sounds like alot yes, but the important thing is the difference between the head and body length and the bipedal height, that is what we were looking for.
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Post by brobear on Oct 26, 2020 9:21:10 GMT -5
But this is inconclusive.
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Post by brobear on Oct 26, 2020 9:26:01 GMT -5
Sloth bear with Asiatic Lion:
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Post by brobear on Oct 26, 2020 13:18:09 GMT -5
Even stretched out on the ground and measured from his nose to the tips of his toes, a 6-feet 9-inch sloth bear is a huge sloth bear ( IMO ). It would be a tight contest between the sloth bear and the Andean bear to win second place in the smallest bear species contest.
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Post by King Kodiak on Oct 26, 2020 13:26:03 GMT -5
But why should the bear be measured from his nose to his toes though? To get the bipedal height, he should be measured from the top of his head to his toes.
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Post by brobear on Oct 26, 2020 14:36:56 GMT -5
But why should the bear be measured from his nose to his toes though? To get the bipedal height, he should be measured from the top of his head to his toes. You know this and I know this. But the report does not give any specifics; including who measured him. A hunter will measure for maximum length ( ego driven ). I just don't believe in grizzly-sized sloth bears. Also, with a shoulder height of 2 feet 8 inches, could he really stand 6 feet 9 inches tall?
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Post by King Kodiak on Oct 26, 2020 14:41:33 GMT -5
As soon as i saw that sloth bear was 6 ft, 9 in, i knew that was kind of weird, just too tall for even the largest sloth bear. Most likely exaggerated. But i liked that it had all the measurements, its the absolute only bear we have with all the measurements.
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