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Post by theundertaker45 on Nov 6, 2020 17:25:47 GMT -5
A poll has been added by me; I stand by my original take that the giant panda should come out on top against a coalition of three cheetahs, however, five of them throwing their combined weight of over 200kg on him would be too much in my opinion.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2020 10:34:19 GMT -5
Reply #76 - a ( roughly ) 14 seconds video. We neither see the beginning nor the end. What the cause of a confrontation is can have a huge effect on the animal's behavior. Perhaps the leopard was curious about some cheetah cubs. A mother ( most species ) can have some aggressive courage. If this is the case, there was nothing there worth a leopard to fight for. We must remember, a wild animal will usually resist a fight where there is no need. They are not driven by a foolish ego ( as in humans ). As for size; a cheetah is normally taller than a leopard ( long legs ). The leopard was trying to steal the cheetah's prey
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Post by brobear on Nov 7, 2020 10:54:26 GMT -5
Quote: he leopard was trying to steal the cheetah's prey. *I see no evidence of a carcass on the video.
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Post by King Kodiak on Nov 7, 2020 11:28:36 GMT -5
Quote: he leopard was trying to steal the cheetah's prey. *I see no evidence of a carcass on the video. Maybe you dont see a carcass on the video, but look what the uploader of the video said:
domainofthebears.proboards.com/post/41250/thread
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Post by brobear on Nov 7, 2020 12:23:28 GMT -5
A young inexperienced leopard - perhaps a subadult - and it took the cheetah two hours to chase it off. Fact; this was not about a fight. Chase and bluff; common tactics. The leopard was young enough to be intimidated by the aggressive acting cheetah.
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Post by brobear on Nov 7, 2020 12:29:14 GMT -5
Leopards and Cheetahs: Ambush of course.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2020 16:53:06 GMT -5
Cheetah beats leopard
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Post by theundertaker45 on Nov 8, 2020 17:38:37 GMT -5
The cheetah chased off the leopard; no serious physical contact was made.
It seems like you are the type of guy who would claim that an average woman could defeat Brock Lesnar because she made him go away by shouting very loudly at him; your logic is all over the place...
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2020 17:44:43 GMT -5
The cheetah chased off the leopard; no serious physical contact was made.
It seems like you are the type of guy who would claim that an average woman could defeat Brock Lesnar because she made him go away by shouting very loudly at him; your logic is all over the place...
The cheetah made physical contact by hitting the leopard then the leopard ran away "It seems like your are the type of guy who would claim that an average woman could defeat Brock Lesnar because she made him go away by shouting very loudly at him; your logic is all over the place..." I find this offending
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Post by theundertaker45 on Nov 8, 2020 17:48:06 GMT -5
@cheetah
I saw a mother cougar slapping a male grizzly bear and chasing him off the other day; I guess the mother cougar defeated the grizzly then and this would indicate the outcome of a serious fight?
Again, your logic is all over the place.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2020 18:04:09 GMT -5
Reply#89 "I saw a mother cougar slapping a male grizzly bear and chasing him off the other day; I guess the mother cougar defeated the grizzly then and this would indicate the outcome of a serious fight?"
It will a little
I am busy I cannot debate right now so I will reply later
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Post by brobear on Nov 8, 2020 20:31:51 GMT -5
Reply #86 = two cheetahs. Let me make a point here. I am not an advocate for dog-fights. A stand strongly and firmly against blood-sports. But I do know the type of dogs used and sought after for those horrendous pit-fights. The bull-breeds. Short and stocky. Broad in build- thick. Slightly bowed legs are helpful in grappling. Strong jaws and strong teeth. You will never read about, from any reliable source, that a greyhound can be used or has ever been used successfully as a pit-dog.
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Post by brobear on Nov 13, 2020 6:05:09 GMT -5
The mere fact that this topic reads, "from 3 to 5 vs 1" tells me that the #1 is the dominant animal in this topic.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2020 11:47:21 GMT -5
Here cheetah kills 100 kg giraffe
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Post by theundertaker45 on Nov 18, 2020 12:00:25 GMT -5
@cheetah
Yes, a rather large kill. Are you sure it was killed by a single cheetah or multiple individuals as the author refers to "cheetahs" in this paragraph.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2020 16:59:29 GMT -5
@cheetah Yes, a rather large kill. Are you sure it was killed by a single cheetah or multiple individuals as the author refers to "cheetahs" in this paragraph. One or two cheetahs must have distracted the mother while a single cheetah would have killed the young giraffe as the author said "But in the tangle of thick woodlands and hunting in pairs or trios,it is far easier for the cheetahs to distract the parents and so isolate a youngster"
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Post by theundertaker45 on Nov 19, 2020 2:37:26 GMT -5
@cheetah
There also could have been two cheetahs distracting the mother and other two or three cheetahs killing it. Coalitions of male cheetahs can have up to five members.
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Post by brobear on Nov 19, 2020 2:39:57 GMT -5
www.reference.com/pets-animals/average-height-weight-baby-giraffe-be59d3828b298b5e A baby giraffe is about 6 1/2 feet tall at birth and weighs about 220 pounds. A baby giraffe is called a calf, and the gestation time for giraffes is about 15 months. Female calves are normally a bit smaller than males, but both sexes grow quickly, almost doubling their height in the first year of life. The mother gives birth from a standing position, and the calf drops onto the ground. The calf can stand up within an hour of birth and immediately begins suckling milk from the mother. While a calf begins dining on leaves at about 4 months of age, he still relies on his mother's milk for most of his nourishment until the age of 9 to 12 months. *Absolutely no reason why one full-grown cheetah should not be able to kill a new-born giraffe.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2020 14:04:10 GMT -5
Um the picture shows us only one giraffe with one cheetah.
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Post by theundertaker45 on Nov 20, 2020 14:19:07 GMT -5
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Yes but that doesn't mean the giraffe was taken down by a single cheetah. I could show you thousands of pictures of single lions near the carcasses of elephants/hippos/rhinos; that doesn't mean they took them down without the help of others. The author of your excerpt also says this about cheetahs hunting young giraffes:
"Even more impressive, I've seen pairs of male cheetahs hunt young giraffes in thick Acacia bush where the cheetahs have the advantage."
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