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Post by OldGreenGrolar on Jan 15, 2021 4:55:51 GMT -5
The grolar bear can potentially grow larger than both the polar bear and Kodiak bear.
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Post by OldGreenGrolar on Jan 25, 2021 2:49:43 GMT -5
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Post by brobear on Jan 25, 2021 3:09:06 GMT -5
Both the Andean bear and the sun bear share the title of being the most arboreal of bears - tree-climbers. Neither the cheetah nor the greyhound are great tree-climbers. I once read that of the eight species of bears, the sloth bear is the least robust - being the lightest of build. I have spent long hours searching for the source - to no avail.
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Post by King Kodiak on Jan 25, 2021 7:17:39 GMT -5
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Post by brobear on Jan 25, 2021 7:27:47 GMT -5
So; you believe that if a sloth bear measuring 6 feet in head-and-body length is compared with a grizzly measuring 6 feet in head-and-body length; the sloth bear will outweigh the grizzly?
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Post by King Kodiak on Jan 25, 2021 7:33:39 GMT -5
So; you believe that if a sloth bear measuring 6 feet in head-and-body length is compared with a grizzly measuring 6 feet in head-and-body length; the sloth bear will outweigh the grizzly? Am not sure about outweight, but it would have more robust bones according to that scientific study which is very reliable. Sloth bears are known to be very robust anyhow.
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Post by brobear on Jan 25, 2021 8:05:43 GMT -5
Quote: Sloth bears are known to be very robust anyhow. *No; they're not. Pictured is a sri lankan sloth bear which has shorter hair.
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Post by King Kodiak on Jan 25, 2021 8:11:30 GMT -5
That is misleading, lol, you cant go by one picture or even more. You have to go by what actual scientific studies says.
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Post by King Kodiak on Jan 25, 2021 8:18:14 GMT -5
You are saying sloth bears are not robust? Well look what Undertaker wrote here: "Sloth bears are extremely robust bears"
Sloth bears are extremely robust bears and I believe that's mainly due to the fact that they have a very aggressive nature and will stand their ground against enemies. This includes much larger tigers in India and the leopards in Sri Lanka who may overlap with sloth bears in size as Sri Lankan leopards are a rather big subspecies and Sri Lankan sloth bears are much smaller than their mainland cousins. They have to be able to survive next to big cats rivalling/trumping them in size and I believe that's one of the key reasons for their adaptions regarding bone density.
domainofthebears.proboards.com/post/26686/thread
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Post by brobear on Jan 25, 2021 8:43:26 GMT -5
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Post by brobear on Jan 25, 2021 8:49:25 GMT -5
Having an aggressive nature does nor produce girth. Also, the sloth bear experts claim that a sloth bear is no more aggressive than any other bear. Standing their ground and facing a tiger is simply a survival tactic which does, by the way, require courage.
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Post by King Kodiak on Jan 25, 2021 8:57:49 GMT -5
You cant go by pictures though, pictures can be misleading. you cant know the actual bone robusticity by pictures. We have to go by the studies that we have. They actually measured the limbs.
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Post by brobear on Jan 25, 2021 9:05:01 GMT -5
You cant go by pictures though, pictures can be misleading. you cant know the actual bone robusticity by pictures. We have to go by the studies that we have. They actually measured the limbs. Bones, bulk, and muscles are not all the same thing. My words: I once read that of the eight species of bears, the sloth bear is the least robust - being the lightest of build.
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Post by King Kodiak on Jan 25, 2021 9:11:10 GMT -5
"You once read" ok maybe it was a not so reliable source. Was it just an article or an actual study?
Bones, bulk, and muscles are not the same, of course not, here we are just taling about bones. No doubt brown bears would have more muscles and bulk even at same weight.
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Post by brobear on Jan 25, 2021 9:14:07 GMT -5
When it comes down to pure muscle - how much muscle is packed onto those bones - measuring each bear ( unrealistically in some cases ) at equal head-and-body length, I would place the brown bear in first place, followed by ( probably ) the polar bear, then the two black bears. Just how the sloth bear, sun bear, giant panda ( which I consider being almost a bear ), and the Andean bear line-up. I'm not sure.
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Post by King Kodiak on Jan 25, 2021 9:17:45 GMT -5
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Post by brobear on Jan 25, 2021 9:18:18 GMT -5
Quote: here we are just taling about bones. Then you and I are on totally different topics. Again ( where this "conversation" got started - quote: "I once read that of the eight species of bears, the sloth bear is the least robust - being the lightest of build." Note that I stated that I read this somewhere. I can't remember the source. Not sure how true this statement is. But the sloth bear is nearer the bottom than to the top when all eight species are compared according to musculature.
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Post by brobear on Jan 25, 2021 9:19:28 GMT -5
I never said that. I'm saying that I was talking about how muscular each bear is.
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Post by King Kodiak on Jan 25, 2021 9:24:35 GMT -5
I never said that. I'm saying that I was talking about how muscular each bear is. Oh yeah definitely, brown bears are definitely more muscular, even at same size, that is not a debate.
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Post by King Kodiak on Jan 25, 2021 9:31:09 GMT -5
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