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Post by brobear on Jan 24, 2021 14:32:01 GMT -5
Eastern Gorilla (standing height of 176cm) vs Gigantopithecus (standing height of 210cm)So how did I calculate the average Gigantopithecus to stand ~210cm tall? That's simple, the latest estimations on its actual body measurements date back to the year 1979 when anthropologist A. E. Johnson Jr. estimated their femur/humerus to be 20-25% longer than those of extant gorillas. I therefore made the Gigantopithecus ~22.5% taller than the average gorilla (171.5cm, concluded out of the eastern and western gorilla) which led me to an average standing height of 210cm. Taking our modern gorillas into account, the 210cm in standing height also seems pretty accurate to me when taking into account that Gigantopithecus was estimated to weigh ~550lbs on average.  The two greatest of the great apes. |
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Post by kesagake on Jan 27, 2021 11:05:34 GMT -5
Gigantopithecus seems a little bit overrated for some reasons. There for not mention even guys stating it could beat Cave Bear, Arctodus and even Paraceratherium. They say it's 35 times stronger than a man too.
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Post by brobear on Jan 27, 2021 12:15:11 GMT -5
Gigantopithecus seems a little bit overrated for some reasons. There for not mention even guys stating it could beat Cave Bear, Arctodus and even Paraceratherium. They say it's 35 times stronger than a man too. A male Giganto was probably big enough to discourage a tiger from choosing him as a possible prey choice. Perhaps, like the gorilla, the females and juveniles were dependent on both him and the trees for their safety. As for cave bears, short-faced bears, and even regular-sized rhino, Giganto was not King Kong. So yes; that is just a wee bit overrated.  |
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Post by brobear on Jan 29, 2021 13:09:10 GMT -5
Dominant male Giganto standing 7 feet tall and weighing 550 pounds is confronted with an Easter black bear standing 7 feet tall and weighing 600 pounds. Both are big specimens but neither is freakishly large. Their fight; a territorial dispute.  |
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Post by King Kodiak on Jan 29, 2021 14:28:34 GMT -5
Dominant male Giganto standing 7 feet tall and weighing 550 pounds is confronted with an Easter black bear standing 7 feet tall and weighing 600 pounds. Both are big specimens but neither is freakishly large. Their fight; a territorial dispute. |
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Post by brobear on Jan 30, 2021 5:14:39 GMT -5
Dominant male Giganto standing 7 feet tall and weighing 550 pounds is confronted with an Easter black bear standing 7 feet tall and weighing 600 pounds. Both are big specimens but neither is freakishly large. Their fight; a territorial dispute. I agree. I see your logic. Neither species ( if the Giganto is similar to orangutans and gorillas ) has a strong killer instinct. |
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Post by kesagake on Oct 9, 2021 12:24:16 GMT -5
Any evidence of Saquatch being a descendant of Gigantopithecus?
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Post by brobear on Oct 9, 2021 12:33:34 GMT -5
There is a documentary that I watched some years ago about Gigantopithecus which told of this theory of a group of them crossing the land-bridge ( Beringia ) from Russia into Alaska. The Giganto/Sasquatch theory. According to all biologists on this topic, there was no food supply there in Beringia to support any large ape species.
From my personal point of view, you pit a 400-pound barren ground grizzly against a 400-pound mountain gorilla, you end up with a bear feeding on a great ape carcass.
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Post by OldGreenGrolar on Oct 10, 2021 2:33:09 GMT -5
The average gigantopithecus outweighs most bears and definately outweighs all big cats are average weights.
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Post by brobear on Oct 10, 2021 2:42:05 GMT -5
The average gigantopithecus outweighs most bears and definately outweighs all big cats are average weights. From the opening post, quote: "...Taking our modern gorillas into account, the 210cm in standing height also seems pretty accurate to me when taking into account that Gigantopithecus was estimated to weigh ~550lbs on average." Average fully grown male Yellowstone grizzly (9 years+) - 470 pounds. Average fully-grown male Ussuri brown bear ( 10 years+) - 657 pounds. So, basically, Gigantopithecus was in the weight-range of a typical inland brown bear. |
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Post by brobear on Oct 10, 2021 5:51:11 GMT -5
www.ancient-origins.net/history/real-bigfoot-gigantopithecus-would-have-been-terrifying-our-ancient-ancestors-009436 Since only its jaws and teeth have actually been found, it is not possible to determine the exact appearance of Gigantopithecus. Based on its predicted weight, size, and shared ancestry with knuckle-walking apes such as gorillas, paleontologists believe that it was most likely a knuckle-walker with quadrupedal locomotion. Could This be Bigfoot’s Ancestor? Paleontologists say that Gigantopithecus has been extinct for hundreds of thousands of years, but not everyone is convinced that the giant ape is completely gone. There is a popular theory among Bigfoot enthusiasts that the legendary ape actually represents an expansion of Gigantopithecus into North America. According to this theory, a species of Gigantopithecus survived and was able to make it across the Bering Strait land bridge to colonize North America. Although this is a popular idea, there are some problems with it. The first is that Gigantopithecus remains are only found in Asia, mainly China and Southeast Asia. There is no fossil evidence that suggests it ever reached North America. In fact, there is no evidence that any ape, let alone a giant ape, lived in North America before the arrival of Homo Sapiens . Another problem is that all the evidence indicates that the diet of Gigantopithecus was very specialized, consisting mostly of grasses, possibly bamboo, and shrubs - which means they were only able to live in specific environments. For Gigantopithecus to have made it to North America, they would have needed to survive in many different environments - including harsh tundra and glacial settings. Bigfoot sightings occur in almost every North American climatic zone, ranging from cold temperate to subtropical. This makes it unlikely that Gigantopithecus is the animal behind Bigfoot. The prehistoric ape was probably much less adaptable than the lovable, ever elusive, Bigfoot and would not have been able to adapt to many different environments so easily. Additionally, Gigantopithecus was most likely quadrupedal. Their large body size would have made it difficult for them to walk on two legs. Also, since all their closest living relatives are quadrupedal, the idea that they were quadrupedal is better friends with Occam’s razor and thus more likely. So far, the only apes to evolve bipedalism have been hominins, humans, and their most recent ancestors. Most apes are quadrupedal. In answer to reply #6. |
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Post by OldGreenGrolar on Oct 23, 2021 22:09:37 GMT -5
Reply 9. It looks like most male brown bears still outweigh the giganto.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2023 13:36:36 GMT -5
Eastern Gorilla (standing height of 176cm) vs Gigantopithecus (standing height of 210cm)So how did I calculate the average Gigantopithecus to stand ~210cm tall? That's simple, the latest estimations on its actual body measurements date back to the year 1979 when anthropologist A. E. Johnson Jr. estimated their femur/humerus to be 20-25% longer than those of extant gorillas. I therefore made the Gigantopithecus ~22.5% taller than the average gorilla (171.5cm, concluded out of the eastern and western gorilla) which led me to an average standing height of 210cm. Taking our modern gorillas into account, the 210cm in standing height also seems pretty accurate to me when taking into account that Gigantopithecus was estimated to weigh ~550lbs on average. The two greatest of the great apes. I have asked palaeoanthropologist Yingqi Zhang about Gigantopithecus' height, behaviour etc. I am just waiting for a reply. |
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Post by brobear on Aug 21, 2023 6:06:58 GMT -5
Quote; "I am just waiting for a reply." *I'm all atwitter. It's past time for some fresh information on the real "Kong" |
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Post by brobear on Aug 21, 2023 6:21:53 GMT -5
Gigantopithecus, despite his close relation to the pongo lineage, was obviously more gorilla-like. He was huge; roughly 600 pounds on average and standing possibly 7 feet tall bipedally. It is quite obvious that Giganto was not arboreal. He was a ground ape; a knuckle-walker like the gorilla. He probably had no more fear of the tiger than a gorilla has of the leopard - a flat zero. However, it is possible (probable imo) that the Giganto she-apes were arboreal, to some degree; as much so as the female gorilla. Male and Female (there are no other sexes). The dominant male and the semi-arboreal female.  |
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