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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2019 8:14:57 GMT -5
I meant it will be interesting to see how a python will perform if it wraps itself around an animal too big to swallow (in self defense - that was what I was trying to say).
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Post by brobear on Feb 10, 2019 9:56:05 GMT -5
I meant it will be interesting to see how a python will perform if it wraps itself around an animal too big to swallow (in self defense - that was what I was trying to say). I know that leopards, big baboons, and men have been killed in the coils. Not sure about lions, tigers, or anything larger. An interesting question. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2019 23:34:23 GMT -5
What about sun bear vs komodo dragon?
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Post by brobear on Apr 3, 2019 3:14:33 GMT -5
What about sun bear vs komodo dragon? A sun bear is a ferocious fighter, but only if he feels cornered. Otherwise he will scurry up a tree. But, if he has no escape and the dragon has chosen him for his next meal, there will be a fight. IMO - after a bloody battle, the bear will have killed the giant monitor lizard, but will also die soon after from the lizard's venom. No real winner.  |
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Post by BruteStrength on Apr 3, 2019 7:04:04 GMT -5
I also back the sun bear as well because the sun bear have more weapons but the bear will probably die from the reptile bite.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2019 8:00:58 GMT -5
komodo dragons grow up to 150 pounds in the wild and are in the same weight class as sun bears but in captivity these giant lizards can grow even larger.
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Post by brobear on Apr 4, 2019 5:11:07 GMT -5
komodo dragons grow up to 150 pounds in the wild and are in the same weight class as sun bears but in captivity these giant lizards can grow even larger. Close enough to be considered as a weight-parity face-off.  |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2019 5:19:45 GMT -5
komodo dragons grow up to 150 pounds in the wild and are in the same weight class as sun bears but in captivity these giant lizards can grow even larger. Close enough to be considered as a weight-parity face-off. I think the sun bear will win too but it has to be careful of the komodo dragon's venomous bite. |
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Post by King Kodiak on Oct 27, 2019 10:53:35 GMT -5
23 FOOT PYTHON SWALLOWS WHOLE FEMALE SUN BEAR IN THE ISLAND OF BORNEO (HELARCTOS MALAYANUS EURYSPILUS). The Big Squeeze: Scientist Catches Bear-Eating Snake in the Act It Poked the Bear In July 1999, conservation biologist Gabriella Fredriksson was monitoring a female Sun bear and her cub on the island of Borneo via radio collar. One morning, the collar’s signal indicated that the bear hadn’t moved for more than four hours, a sign that either the bear had died or the collar had come off. Fredriksson investigated and tracked the signal to the stomach of a 23 ft python curled up in the brush. The bulge of the adult bear could be clearly seen in the middle of the snake, and as the snake fled into a nearby stream when Fredriksson got too close, she could hear the sounds of the bear’s bones snapping. No sign of the cub was ever found. mentalfloss.com/article/29898/big-squeeze-scientist-catches-bear-eating-snake-act |
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Post by brobear on Oct 27, 2019 22:01:10 GMT -5
Bear meets snake. 'Nuff Said.
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Post by brobear on Sept 7, 2020 17:40:13 GMT -5
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4285966/ Black Bear Reactions to Venomous and Non-venomous Snakes in Eastern North America The only known death of a black bear from a venomous bite was a four-month-old cub that weighed 3.3 kg in Virginia in early June 2000 (Klenzendorf et al. 2004). The position of the bite on the inner thigh of that cub suggests that the cub had reared back on its hind legs, as was typical of adolescent and adult bears that encountered snakes within the range of venomous snakes in this study. However, calm reactions by many cubs to snakes, even within the range of venomous snakes, suggests that experience is also a factor. In fact, as with humans and nonhuman primates, individual differences in fearful responses to snakes are the norm. Although snakes are eaten by various mammals, birds, and other vertebrate predators (Fitch 1965; Oldfield & Moriarty 1994; Greene 1997), we found no report of snake remains in black bear scats.
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Post by King Kodiak on Sept 7, 2020 18:37:22 GMT -5
Great find brobear! We dont have much info on the interactions of bears and snakes, but now we can see some. Inside that link they show several reactions of black bears to snakes, the reactions depend on the individual bear, some retreated, some didn't mind at all. It all depends on experience.
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Post by brobear on Sept 7, 2020 19:06:33 GMT -5
The thing that irritates me is this; there are rattlesnakes and other snakes in Montana and Wyoming; grizzly bear country. Grizzlies overturn rocks and logs as they search for insects. So, it stands to reason that it would not be uncommon for a grizzly to chance upon a snake. There is no doubt in my mind that field biologists have witnessed this. Also, there is no doubt in my mind that a field biologist will study the diet of bears by analyzing bear droppings.
Yet, I have yet to read grizzly and snake in the same sentence.
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Post by malikc6 on Oct 11, 2020 15:35:59 GMT -5
I guess this answers my long time question if bears are resistant to snake bites. They're not. |
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Post by brobear on Oct 11, 2020 16:16:08 GMT -5
Reply #34 - Good find malikc6
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Post by OldGreenGrolar on Oct 11, 2020 16:19:43 GMT -5
A king cobra’s venom is said to be able to kill an elephant tusker so it is no surprise that a rattlesnake’s venom can kill an American black bear. It is sad news indeed.
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Post by King Kodiak on Oct 11, 2020 16:27:46 GMT -5
A king cobra’s venom is said to be able to kill an elephant tusker so it is no surprise that a rattlesnake’s venom can kill an American black bear. It is sad news indeed. |
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Post by brobear on Dec 16, 2022 1:10:14 GMT -5
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Post by brobear on Dec 16, 2022 1:23:27 GMT -5
In Montana and Wyoming, there are rattlesnakes. In the Russian Far East, there is the common Northern viper. I'm sure that, with the bears overturning rocks and logs in their search for snacks, finding a snake is not so uncommon. The mystery is, why is such an incident never reported, or why have I not discovered such a report?
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