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Post by brobear on Feb 4, 2019 10:40:13 GMT -5
800 pound Grizzly vs python or anaconda. Two fights: ( 1 ) in water three-feet-deep. ( 2 ) on dry land.
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Post by King Kodiak on Feb 8, 2019 16:54:32 GMT -5
Well that is a weird situation. I believe they will most likely avoid each other. Now, if we have a very hungry grizzly, he might try to eat the anaconda, the grizzly is smarter and if he avoids getting caught and crushed, he would kill the anaconda.
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Post by brobear on Feb 9, 2019 2:15:55 GMT -5
I agree that most likely ( maybe ) a big boar grizzly would avoid a big constrictor. But ( as I wrote ) if he blundered into one, and the big snake began wrapping around him, could the snake suffocate a bear that is much stronger than a lion or tiger, or would the grizzly break free and kill the snake?
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Post by King Kodiak on Feb 9, 2019 4:06:51 GMT -5
I agree that most likely ( maybe ) a big boar grizzly would avoid a big constrictor. But ( as I wrote ) if he blundered into one, and the big snake began wrapping around him, could the snake suffocate a bear that is much stronger than a lion or tiger, or would the grizzly break free and kill the snake? Well, there are many stories of the strength of the snake suffocating animals. If it wrapped around a bear, to tell you the truth i just dont know what would happen. I would guess a large strong bear would break free. What do you think brobear?
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Post by King Kodiak on Feb 9, 2019 4:25:05 GMT -5
Here a dog breaks free from a python, so yeah, a bear would definatly break free and kill it.
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Post by brobear on Feb 9, 2019 4:51:16 GMT -5
The python that attacked the dog was not very big, but then a grizzly is a lot bigger than a dog. Yes, I believe that a grizzly ( especially a big boar ) could break free and kill the snake. ( more said here - Bears surviving in Africa ).
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Post by King Kodiak on Feb 9, 2019 8:32:39 GMT -5
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Post by brobear on Feb 9, 2019 8:43:36 GMT -5
That one no big surprise. We have wild hogs ( razor-backs ) here in the South. Where these hogs are numerous, you rarely find a rattlesnake. The snake's habit of coiling-up and shaking his rattle to frighten an intruder does not work with a razor-back. The snake's venom has no effect on the hog. The wild hog's just gobble-up the snakes. A rattlesnake is just an easy meal for a wild hog. Bears are often compared with hogs and it is often said that they have much in common. I am still wondering about the vipor/grizzly interactions? Strange that this topic has never been brought up.
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Post by King Kodiak on Feb 9, 2019 9:00:13 GMT -5
The problem is i have researched a little and have found no interactions between bears and snakes.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2019 9:34:36 GMT -5
Pythons have killed female sun bears which are already emaciated or sleeping.
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Post by brobear on Feb 9, 2019 10:04:19 GMT -5
Pythons have killed female sun bears which are already emaciated or sleeping. A snake can only eat that which he can swallow whole. When you see a python or any other snake attacking something too big to swallow, it is merely self defense.
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Post by King Kodiak on Feb 9, 2019 10:20:50 GMT -5
My conclusion is this: in my opinion, a venomous snake can bite and kill a bear if course, from the back or even in a fight, it can get that bite and bear will die of venom poisoning. But a large python, which are not venomous and only kill by suffocating, its very unlikely that it can wrap around a large bear out of all animals, ha ha ha. A large bear kills the python most times.
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Post by brobear on Feb 9, 2019 11:49:28 GMT -5
Its all hypothetical, of course. Can a grizzly overpower a python or an anaconda? I believe so. Can a rattlesnake kill a grizzly? Maybe. Internally, bears are very similar to hogs. So much so, in fact, that back in the 19th century, the experts of the time believed that bears and hogs were closely related. A rattlesnake is helpless before a hog. Might a bear be equally as immune to the snake's bite as a hog? The question remains unanswered. Even if the bear can survive a rattlesnake bite, this does not mean that he can survive the bite of a cobra - totally different poison.
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Post by King Kodiak on Feb 9, 2019 14:35:51 GMT -5
Well a cobra’s bite would kill most animals just because of the venom, would it kill an elephant also? Same with the Komodo dragon, one bite would kill a bear or any animal because of the venom. These 2 animals are capable of landing a bite.
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Post by brobear on Feb 9, 2019 19:38:05 GMT -5
Well a cobra’s bite would kill most animals just because of the venom, would it kill an elephant also? Same with the Komodo dragon, one bite would kill a bear or any animal because of the venom. These 2 animals are capable of landing a bite. It was stated on one elephant documentary that I watched that one bite from a cobra could drop an elephant.
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Post by King Kodiak on Feb 9, 2019 20:01:44 GMT -5
Well a cobra’s bite would kill most animals just because of the venom, would it kill an elephant also? Same with the Komodo dragon, one bite would kill a bear or any animal because of the venom. These 2 animals are capable of landing a bite. It was stated on one elephant documentary that I watched that one bite from a cobra could drop an elephant. Yeah i would have thought so. This means one thing: that a cobra can kill any land animal in this world, all it needs is a bite. But it doesnt mean its a better fighter.
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Post by brobear on Feb 9, 2019 20:05:41 GMT -5
A grizzly would probably fall victim less often than most denizens of the African bush due to ( perhaps ) the keenest nose in the animal kingdom. ( our fabled African grizzly ).
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Post by King Kodiak on Feb 9, 2019 20:18:12 GMT -5
A grizzly would probably fall victim less often than most denizens of the African bush due to ( perhaps ) the keenest nose in the animal kingdom. ( our fabled African grizzly ). Good point. Also being a very smart fighter that would avoid being bitten by the cobra.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2019 7:24:40 GMT -5
Pythons have killed female sun bears which are already emaciated or sleeping. A snake can only eat that which he can swallow whole. When you see a python or any other snake attacking something too big to swallow, it is merely self defense. Still it will be interesting to imagine how a python will when it wraps itself around an animal it cannot swallow.
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Post by brobear on Feb 10, 2019 7:51:00 GMT -5
How a python will what? Should the python kill something too big to eat, he simply slinks away and goes hunting smaller prey.
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