Tigers killing elephants accounts analysis

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This thread will analyze accounts of tigers killing elephants.

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www.newindianexpress.com/cities/kochi/2009/jun/02/tiger-kills-elephant-at-eravikulam-park-53990.html

It was later presumably deduced the elephant was weakened and in ailing conditions.

"In a rare incident recently a tiger is reported to have killed a tusker in the Eravikulam National Park near Munnar, intriguing forest officials and wildlife enthusiasts alike. For tigers have never been known to attack elephants — let alone kill them — being physically no match for the pachyderms. Perhaps, this was a territorial feud — common in the wilds — and the tusker presumably was ailing and weak. Yet it’s hard to imagine a tiger taking on an elephant and besting it."
www.newindianexpress.com/opinions/2009/sep/22/the-tigers-of-munnar-are-safe-for-now-88610.amp#amp_tf=Da%20%251%24s&aoh=16858751219540&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com

Unfair account!

It also says that tigers aren't known to attack elephants.

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www.thehindu.com/news/national/other-states/Tiger-kills-elephant-in-Corbett-Reserve/article15536997.ece/amp/

It was later proven that elephant was weakened and injured.

Manoharan said the elephant had died one or two days ago. The carcass was found with deep injuries in one of the legs. “The animal was not able to walk long distances, preventing it from collecting enough green fodder. We have also found tiger pug marks in the area. There is a possibility that a tiger might have attacked the weak elephant. Its trunk was missing from the carcass.”
m.timesofindia.com/city/coimbatore/20-year-old-elephant-found-dead/amp_articleshow/65445916.cms

Unfair account!

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books.google.it/books?id=Z6USDAAAQBAJ&pg=PA23&dq=tiger+can+kill+adult+elephants+sunquist&hl=it&newbks=1&newbks_redir=0&source=gb_mobile_search&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjP2rW9w6n_AhVG_aQKHSK9B-QQ6AF6BAgHEAM#v=onepage&q=tiger%20can%20kill%20adult%20elephants%20sunquist&f=false

That claim wasn't based on eye witness. It was only based on one account of a tiger attacking his elephant and on anecdotal hunting accounts as he said on an email.


Sunsquist also refuted his own claim.

In a 2002 book he said rhinos are invulnerable to tigers due to their size.
books.google.it/books?id=F_Wfa9BpmIYC&pg=PA51&dq=adult+rhinos+are+invulnerable+to+tigers&hl=it&newbks=1&newbks_redir=0&source=gb_mobile_search&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjYz-PixKn_AhVhVeUKHdRUBAsQ6AF6BAgFEAM

And in a 2015 book he said the largest prey killed by tigers are elephant calves.

books.google.com/books/about/Wild_Cats_of_the_World.html?hl=it&id=IF8nDwAAQBAJ#v=onepage&q=tigers%20will%20eat%20almost%20anything%20they%20can%20catch&f=false

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archive.org/details/tigeritslifeinth00scha/page/30/mode/2up?q=

Well George Schallar said tigers do hunt elephants but he meant CALVES.

"Tiger predation on
Asian elephants (Elephas maximus) and one-horned
rhinos (Rhinoceros unicornis) is rare and restricted to
small calves"

redirect.viglink.com/?key=71fe2139a887ad501313cd8cce3053c5&subId=6716665&u=http%3A//repository.ias.ac.in/89442/1/3-P.pdf

Note that in the study above Schallar is referenced.

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Quote; "Well George Schallar said tigers do hunt elephants but he meant CALVES."

*Books, web-sites, and documentaries -even coming from biologists- very often (much too often) will make the statement "tigers hunt and kill brown bears" while leaving out any details. In doing this, any school children or even adults uneducated in the ways of wild animals, are then left with the image in their minds of a tiger attacking and killing a full-grown male brown bear.

One would think that a biologist -scientist- would add a few details to such a wide-open statement. Evidently, they are doing the same with elephants and rhinos now.

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www.newindianexpress.com/states/karnataka/2020/sep/20/tiger-preys-on-young-elephantin-bandipur-2199365.html

Oh my ML can't really read. Am not denying that the elephant was young and injured ("the juvenile elephant, aged around 5-6 years, was injured and left behind by the herd.") but there's something ML didn't noticed in the article.

"They do kill small calves and I have seen them stalk herds. They can kill a elephant calf fairly easily. Though elephants have no predators, the calves become easy prey. But there is danger when a tiger goes after a bull Gaur," he added.

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"THIRUVANANTHAPURAM: At least 41 wild elephants have died in Kerala's forest ranges in the last six months,with officials suspecting the deaths of 6 or more individuals due to tiger predation.

www.ndtv.com/kerala-news/41-ele ... hs-1691988

It says "suspected", which means UNCONFIRMED.

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archive.is/5tNkL

No mention of the elephant age. Also it says "suspected", which means UNCONFIRMED

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Lol that book isn't credible. It even says tigers hunt harbor seals.
www.google.com/search?client=ms-android-xiaomi-rvo3&sxsrf=AB5stBh9eA4MLev1QSHmqGRA-8CEe6rD-w:1690804965687&q=tiger+dragging+300+pounds+harbor+seals+out+of+the+ocean&tbm=bks&source=lnms&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjJx_Sq87iAAxUOVfEDHZfpCSYQ0pQJegQIBhAB&biw=393&bih=732&dpr=2.75

Harbor seals don't deal with tigers. BS

And the author has no degree in biology. And is known for writing fictional books.
www.bookbrowse.com/biographies/index.cfm/author_number/2913/dane-huckelbridge

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english.mathrubhumi.com/news/kerala/edamalayar-tiger-and-elephant-1.5945531

Note the article said that it was "assumed" that the elephant and tiger died fighting each other, not proven. UNCONFIRMED ACCOUNT.