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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2022 12:09:04 GMT -5
Sun bear and dhole
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Post by brobear on Sept 2, 2022 2:47:31 GMT -5
The Big 6 Big Cats: 1- Tiger - Both the Amur and the Bengal tigers are the largest of living cats. However, the smaller tiger subspecies are smaller than lions. 2- Lion. 3- Jaguar. 4/5- Leopard/Cougar - These two are debatable as to which is the bigger cat. 6- Cheetah.
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Post by theundertaker45 on Oct 21, 2022 9:13:55 GMT -5
Finally a new comparison; this is certainly one of the best I've done so far with all of the important data included:
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Post by brobear on Oct 21, 2022 9:40:54 GMT -5
Very good comparison picture 'Taker. It's good to see you back.
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Post by OldGreenGrolar on Oct 25, 2022 2:33:35 GMT -5
The coastal brown bear is like twice the size of an interior grizzly bear.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2022 9:01:08 GMT -5
This time we will include two popular ursids: An American black bear taking on an Asian black Bear.
Good match. I see a 50/50 i'd say imo.
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Post by theundertaker45 on Dec 26, 2022 10:02:36 GMT -5
Made a new comparison; I did realize that those two are animals of roughly comparable size in almost all metrics, so why not visualize them? The SH figure is not definite but I guess two good sized males of both would stand 85cm tall and are basically equal in weight. When I look at this, it seems as much of a 50/50 to me as it can get but I'd reckon the black bear would still be the better grappler when you take a closer look on how his limbs are shaped, especially the thickness around the thighs and butt.
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Post by theundertaker45 on Dec 28, 2022 12:27:10 GMT -5
*note: this individual represents the biggest in terms of total length, there are several pregnant females in literature with a much higher body weight
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Post by theundertaker45 on Jan 8, 2023 8:45:02 GMT -5
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Post by Montezuma on Jan 8, 2023 19:42:50 GMT -5
Great comparsion bro. Can i see a picture of Orca vs Great white shawrk comparsion?
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Post by theundertaker45 on Jan 31, 2023 10:42:25 GMT -5
My latest and definitely most accurate version so far. A few points to consider: 1) Difference between length over curves and length in a straight line: in big cats normally around ~5% whereas in brown bears normally 18-20%. This is why over the curves a large bear seems a good deal longer than a big cat but in reality he might actually be a bit shorter. 2) Estimated shoulder heights: Siberian tigers in the Sikhote-Alin were measured from the tip of the shoulder blade to the wrist; the whole pad should normally add around 5cm from what I've read; hence 93cm -> increased to 98cm for the Siberian tiger. For the Ussuri brown bear I used the relation between shoulder height and head-body length over the curves in Yellowstone grizzlies. Hence a length of 212cm will lead me to a shoulder height of 103cm. I know that there is a figure from a hunting magazine indicating an average shoulder height of 115cm for a male Ussuri brown bears, however, when you look at the morphometrics of bears, you'll soon realize that 115cm would be more appropriate for a male bear of 750lbs or upwards. 3) Estimated chest girth: I assume the chest girth of an average Ussuri brown bear to be 144cm; I used a sample of 22 Yellowstone grizzlies and a sample of 5 coastal grizzlies for the calculation. The reason being that it's very likely that body weight/chest girth relations show a different graph at higher weights and including a few really big bears accounts for more reliability then. All in all this looks different from my previous comparison where I scaled the bear to 115cm and the tiger to 100cm; but in this case it should be much more accurate. We must not forget that bears pack more mass per length than big cats and have a typically broader build. While the difference here might not look that significant (we are talking about an average weight difference of almost 70kg); if you looked at them from the front, you'd definitely see the 70kg the tiger is lacking.
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Post by brobear on Jan 31, 2023 12:05:58 GMT -5
Amur tiger has a HBL advantage of 10cm or 3.94 inches. Ussuri brown bear has weight advantage of 70kg or 154.32 pounds. *Thank you 'Taker.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2023 17:01:15 GMT -5
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Post by brobear on Feb 5, 2023 19:07:39 GMT -5
Great info andresvida. Just a year or two ago, I was searching for some accurate measurements and weights for the Marsican brown bear, which I knew was a smaller variety of brown bear. Alpine brown bear I'm not really familiar with. Must be similar to the French Pyrenees. All of these, if I'm not mistaken, are Ursus arctos arctos. 481kg = 1,060.42 pounds. 230kg = 507.06 pounds. 44kg = 97 pounds. Also by andresvida:
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2023 11:04:59 GMT -5
^True! Alpine brown bears are just an isolated population of the Eurasian brown bear (Ursus arctos arctos) which historically could be found basically across whole Europe while now well its range is very fragmented and only eastern Europe has sparse ranges of habitat for it, like Russia and Finland if you want the best examples. In northern Italy sadly there's nearly non existent data on these bears so I based the measurements taken from a freak specimen in Romania and the weight from a slovakian specimen (close enough to our alpine population)which undertaker kindly gave me. There's also not much footage about our alpine population but some specimens really look massive, especially the ones in Trentino region. Like this one this moron is jerking with this one is massive, from Covelo Trento same area but another specimen Marsican brown bears meanwhile are meanwhile a declared different subspecies of the eurasian brown bear, while very little is known about their size i'd expect an average sized male to fall within the 130 - 140 kg range and for large sized males to reach the 180 - 200 kg mark in rare instances and over 210 kgs for the winter period. Large specimens are seen sometimes. This individual here is the largest I've seen IMO This other male was claimed to be enormous by the photographer and has a visible large wound on the head caused in a territorial fight, perhaps with an even larger male Italian wolves meanwhile are pretty small since the largest specimens fall within the 40-45 kg range, but they are still able to produce pretty robust individuals (one can't expect much since even the biggest wolf populations aren't that robust since they share a morphology similar to cheetahs) and well what would you expect from predators able to predate and kill sometimes our best LGD Maremmano which can attain 50* kgs in weight.
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Post by theundertaker45 on Feb 12, 2023 12:10:02 GMT -5
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Post by brobear on Feb 13, 2023 1:54:59 GMT -5
A beautifully crafted size comparison 'Taker. I really love all of them, but this one is an instant classic.
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Post by brobear on Mar 4, 2023 0:59:15 GMT -5
Okay here it is. And i think i've done it pretty well, these two dinosaurs were similar in dimensional size. Awesome KaijuFan1789.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2023 1:29:40 GMT -5
Okay here it is. And i think i've done it pretty well, these two dinosaurs were similar in dimensional size. Awesome KaijuFan1789. Thanks. Also, even though Spinosaurus seems larger T. Rex was much heavier.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2023 23:42:29 GMT -5
The 3 largest land carnivores ever - Spinosaurus Aegyptiacus, T. Rex, and Giganotosaurus.
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