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Post by OldGreenGrolar on Aug 8, 2020 10:50:55 GMT -5
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Post by OldGreenGrolar on Aug 10, 2020 9:35:22 GMT -5
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Post by OldGreenGrolar on Aug 10, 2020 9:35:52 GMT -5
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Post by OldGreenGrolar on Aug 10, 2020 9:36:36 GMT -5
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Post by OldGreenGrolar on Aug 10, 2020 9:37:12 GMT -5
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Post by OldGreenGrolar on Aug 10, 2020 9:38:13 GMT -5
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Post by OldGreenGrolar on Aug 10, 2020 9:38:58 GMT -5
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Post by OldGreenGrolar on Aug 10, 2020 9:39:57 GMT -5
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Post by brobear on Aug 10, 2020 9:40:59 GMT -5
Reply #19.. with the man on the other end pulling against the lion, would that not interfere with the reading?
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Post by King Kodiak on Aug 10, 2020 11:01:36 GMT -5
Reply #19.. with the man on the other end pulling against the lion, would that not interfere with the reading? Am not so sure brobear. But guess what? I will let one of the most knowledgeable guys answer this (Verdugo), he answered Boldchamp on that video at Carnivora. He seems to have disproven that video:
VERDUGO:
It's not a peer-reviewed scientific source as well. The clip you posted is just another of these American made 'documentaries' that are more concerned with 'awesomebro' and 'wow' factors rather than actual science and education.
You can see @0:24 for instance, the rope is not even tense while the dude is struggling to hold it. Also, there is no way that lion was pulling close to 700 kg and certainly not in a forward position as that is not even the most advantageous position for exerting maximum pulling force in Big Cats (the most advantageous position for pulling in Big Cats is walking backward, not forward). Anyway, to demonstrate how absurd that value is, i will employ some physics equation. For example, i have a bull Cape Buffalo carcass weighing in at 700 kg lying on a flat grassy ground. The Buffalo is current exerting to the ground a Friction Force equivalent to: Friction Force = Normal Force * Friction Coefficient
In order to pull this carcass, a Lion would need to exert a Pull Force at least slightly greater than the Friction Force here. As the Buff weighs 700 kg, it will also exert a Normal Force of 700 kgf. To high ball this, i will use a Coefficient = 1 (this Coefficient = 1 is very unlikely in this scenario). This means that the Friction Force is 700 kgf and it is equivalent to the actual weight of the animal. So pulling an animal in this scenario would be equivalent to actual lifting of the animal itself.
I have never seen a Lion pulling a bull Cape Buffalo in a forward position. So there is certainly no way a Lion is pulling 700 kgf in that position. I have seen a Lion pulling bull Buffalo in a backward position. However, as i said, the Friction Coefficient of 1 is quite unrealistic, a more likely Coefficient would probably be around 0.5 or less. So assuming a Lion is pulling a 700 kg bull Buff, it is probably only exerting 350 kg of pull force at most.
Also, the explanation part about Lion having more fibres in its muscles does not make much sense either. I have read several scientific articles relating to Bite Force of various types of animals from Reptiles to Dinosaurs to Mammals in order to understand what variables go into the ability to generate Force of an animal and i have never seen scientists describing any variables such as 'having more fibres in its muscle'.
carnivora.net/african-lion-v-eastern-gorilla-t24-s75.html#p128686
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Post by King Kodiak on Aug 16, 2020 6:32:30 GMT -5
CROC VS LION IN A TUG OF WAR OVER A CARCASS:
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Post by OldGreenGrolar on Aug 16, 2020 7:10:04 GMT -5
The lion did put up an impressive fight in the tug o war but that is not the biggest croc to be honest.
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Post by OldGreenGrolar on Aug 16, 2020 8:00:55 GMT -5
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Post by King Kodiak on Aug 16, 2020 21:13:48 GMT -5
HUGE AMUR TIGER IN THE RFE
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Post by OldGreenGrolar on Aug 17, 2020 0:11:47 GMT -5
I just realise I wrote my story in the wrong thread. Apologies, everybody .
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Post by OldGreenGrolar on Aug 17, 2020 9:58:11 GMT -5
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Post by OldGreenGrolar on Aug 23, 2020 6:24:16 GMT -5
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Post by King Kodiak on Aug 27, 2020 21:22:14 GMT -5
3 KOMODO DRAGONS TRY TO EAT A SMALL WILD BOAR:
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Post by OldGreenGrolar on Aug 28, 2020 12:06:08 GMT -5
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Post by OldGreenGrolar on Aug 28, 2020 12:06:35 GMT -5
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