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Post by brobear on Oct 16, 2022 2:27:06 GMT -5
First posted by Ursus arctos middendorffi ( the poster )... A brown bear would be much better able to gain dominant positions and exhaust the other animal over time. This is the general strategy they do when fighting each other (with the end result typically being a tired bear backing down or outright fleeing) as well as often when killing other animals; if unable to cause serious injuries they seem to simply exhaust it through grappling to the point it is no longer able to defend itself, and then slowly kill it. This can be seen in a few clips on youtube, such as "grizzly eats moose alive", "brown bear predation of wild boar (Russia)", and it looks like this was the case in "bear killing bear", a slideshow of a bear killing another one of similar size-note that it moved itself to the back of the other animal where it couldn't effectively fight back. Grappling ability coupled with great stamina.
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Post by yz on Oct 16, 2022 10:19:31 GMT -5
Grappling Ability: 1- Polar Bear: -7.999 2- Brown Bear: -7.045 3- Spectacled Bear: -6.517 4- Giant Panda: -6.034 5- American Black Bear: -5.521 6- Sloth Bear: -4.447 7- Jaguar: -1.713 8- Wolverine: -1.356 9- American Badger: -0.859 10- Lion: -0.531 11- Leopard: +1.072 12- Cougar: +1.633 13- Spotted Hyena: +8.006 14- Grey Wolf: +10.470 *Note: *According to this study, bears rank well above the cats in grappling ability. On a pound per pound basis too!
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Post by arctozilla on Oct 16, 2022 17:30:12 GMT -5
What this also means is that bears are theoretically the best contenders for bringing down large game, I say theoretically because many bear populations nowadays mostly rely on fish/fruits and don't regularly tackle big ungulates. This doesn't mean that they aren't capable of doing so, it means the exact opposite, they are the most gifted/talented family in grappling down an opponent The earliest bears (Hemicyonids) were pure predators and grizzlies used to be more carnivorous before man restricted its range.
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Post by brobear on Oct 17, 2022 5:02:16 GMT -5
For years in the various animal face-off blog sites, I heard it said, "a bear needs a significant weight advantage to defeat a big cat." False! I heard it said so often that I believed it. But then I began to look at the actual evidence. They were telling it backwards... "A big cat needs a weight advantage to defeat a bear." This means a huge advantage in HB length and bipedal height.
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