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Post by King Kodiak on Jul 5, 2020 17:33:29 GMT -5
I know this, but wiki is just copying from the "Bear conservation" site, thats all. Also, why do you think its called "Ursus americanus americanus" ? 2 americanus? Because its just a common black bear the same way the European brown bear is "Ursus arctos arctos".
So this bear has a range in all the Eastern part of the USA? from North to South? From Canada all the way down to Texas? So what happened to the other black bear subspecies living in those states?
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Post by brobear on Jul 5, 2020 17:59:59 GMT -5
Ursus arctos arctos / The two gorilla species live in equatorial Africa, separated by about 560 miles of Congo Basin forest. Gorilla gorilla and Gorilla beringei. Probably, the Eastern subspecies was the first subspecies to be named. Since I have lived here in North Alabama, there was a report in the newspaper about our black bears here. According to the report, for decades it had been thought that the bears here were Louisiana black bear, but DNA proved that the black bears of North Alabama are Eastern black bears while those of South Alabama are Louisiana black bears. Bengal tiger: Panthera tigris tigris
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Post by King Kodiak on Jul 5, 2020 18:09:29 GMT -5
Thats probably it right there. Ursus americanus americanus was named at the beginning, but later removed and replaced by more personalized subspecies. Because it says it ranges in Texas (among other places), but the black bear subspecies in Texas is actually the Mexican black bear (Ursus americanus eremicus).
www.bearconservation.org.uk/mexican-black-bear/
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Post by brobear on Jul 5, 2020 18:18:34 GMT -5
Quote: Thats probably it right there. Ursus americanus americanus was named at the beginning... yes, first.... and still is. Quote: but later removed and replaced by more personalized subspecies.... wrong. "Eastern black bear" is still a legitimate subspecies of black bear. Quote: the black bear subspecies in Texas is actually the Mexican black bear (Ursus americanus eremicus).... Texas is a BIG state. Room for more than one subspecies. There are two right here in Alabama. AND I told you; the newspaper article told... biologist did a DNA test and the bears of NORTH ALABAMA are Eastern black bears and those of SOUTH ALABAMA are Louisiana black bears. Why are you so persistent that that the Eastern black bear is voided-out?
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Post by brobear on Jul 5, 2020 18:21:06 GMT -5
www.bearconservation.org.uk/eastern-black-bear/ Accepted scientific name: Ursus americanus americanus (Pallas, 1780) Description: A medium-sized bear but one of the largest subspecies of U. americanus. Up to around two metres in length. Adult males usually weigh around 200 kg and females around 120 kg. Pelage is almost always black with a tan muzzle. Range: Extends in the USA from eastern Montana to the Atlantic coast and from Alaska south and east through Canada to the Atlantic and south to Texas. Habitat: Forested areas of mixed woodlands and swamps. Status: Population generally stable and thought to be increasing in some areas. The species as a whole has the IUCN listing “of least concern”. Life span: Due to widespread hunting the average life span in the wild could be as low as ten years although individuals may live up to 30 years. Food: Omnivorous. Plants and insects form the most significant part of the Eastern black bear’s diet including inner tree bark, grasses and forbs in the spring. In summer they add to their diet with roots, honey, nuts and fruits including raspberries, blueberries, strawberries, blackberries, cranberries, apples and cherries. They rip open rotting logs, overturn rocks and dig in the ground searching for invertebrates. Will also eat fish, rabbits, mice, carrion and rarely deer fawns and moose calves. Behaviour:. Sexually mature around four years of age females give birth in the winter den in January or February after mating in June or July. Litters can be of one to five cubs, two or three are the most common. The cubs remain with the mother for around 17 months during which time she will not become pregnant again. Eastern black bears are shy of humans but will approach populated areas when natural foods are in short supply. The bears can be unpredictable and mothers with cubs can be particularly dangerous if surprised. Threats: Conflicts with humans are an increasing problem as the frequency of interactions between humans and bears grows. This is largely due to increasing populations of both bears and humans but also due to natural food shortages which may be a symptom of climate change. Road development in Eastern black bear habitat increases the risk of traffic fatalities, creates barriers to natural bear movements and also brings people and bears into closer proximity to one another. Poaching for bear parts to be used in medicine is a growing problem but not yet widespread in North America. Hunting is generally well-regulated although in some states is carried out using dogs or bait stations.
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Post by brobear on Jul 5, 2020 18:21:51 GMT -5
Repeat: Accepted scientific name: Ursus americanus americanus (Pallas, 1780)
Description: A medium-sized bear but one of the largest subspecies of U. americanus.
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Post by brobear on Jul 5, 2020 18:40:53 GMT -5
How many reports do you have to see before you can admit that perhaps biologists might know a little something about black bears? www.fs.fed.us/database/feis/animals/mammal/uram/all.html COMMON NAMES: American black bear black bear cinnamon bear North American black bear TAXONOMY: The currently accepted scientific name for American black bear is Ursus americanus Linnaeus. There are 16 subspecies in North America: Ursus americanus altifrontalis Elliot Ursus americanus amblyceps Baird Ursus americanus americanus Pallas Ursus americanus califoriensis J. Miller Ursus americanus carlottae Osgood Ursus americanus cinnamomum Audubon and Bachman Ursus americanus emmonsii Dall Ursus americanus eremicus Merriam Ursus americanus floridanus Merriam (Florida black bear) Ursus americanus hamiltoni Cameron Ursus americanus kermodei Hornaday Ursus americanus luteolus Griffith (Louisiana black bear) Ursus americanus machetes Elliot Ursus americanus perniger J.A. Allen Ursus americanus pugnax Swarth Ursus americanus vancouveri Hall Ursus americanus Pallas Ursus (Eurarctos) americanus sornborgeri Bangs Ursus arctos schwenki Shoemaker Euarctos randi Anderson Eurarctos hunteri Anderson = Ursus americanus americanus Pallas
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Post by brobear on Jul 5, 2020 18:48:45 GMT -5
untamedscience.com/biodiversity/american-black-bear/ Subspecies of Black Bear: Ursus americanus altifrontalis This subspecies lives in the Pacific NW from central BC to northern Cal and inland to Northern Idaho. Ursus americanus amblyceps Found in CO, NM, AZ, west TX, southeaster Utah and northern Mexico. Ursus americanus americanus This subspecies is widespread from eastern MT to the east coast. Its found as far north as Alaska and south to TX. Ursus americanus californiensis This California bear is found in the mountains from southern Oregon to southern CA. Ursus americanus carlottae The Queen Charlotte Black Bear is found on the Queen Charlotte Islands and the Alaska mainland. Ursus americanus cinnamomum The Cinammon Bear is found in ID, western MT, WY, eastern WA, northeastern UT and OR. Ursus americanus emmonsii Found in southeastern AK Ursus americanus eremicus Lives in northeastern Mexico Ursus americanus floridanus In the south this bear ranges from FL, southern Georgia to Alabama. Ursus americanus hamiltoni This bear lives on the island of Newfoundland Ursus americanus kermodei The Kermode Bear lives on the central coast of British Columbia Ursus americanus luteolus Found natively in eastern TX, LA, and southern MS Ursus americanus machetes Native to north-central Mexico Ursus americanus perniger Native to the Kenai Pennisula, AK Ursus americanus pugnax Found on the Alexander Archipelago in AK Ursus americanus vancouveri *I would say that the Eastern black bear is the most successful American black bear subspecies; it being the most widespread.
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Post by King Kodiak on Jul 5, 2020 18:51:26 GMT -5
Hey you might be right after all, but just remember that there was like 88 brown bear subspecies and now we are down to only 2. Here is listed "Ursus arctos gyas" yet we know it has been removed.
Accepted scientific name: Ursus arctos gyas(Clinton Hart Merriam, 1902);
www.bearconservation.org.uk/peninsula-brown-bear/
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Post by King Kodiak on Jul 5, 2020 18:53:55 GMT -5
That's what it looks like yes. Its damn well widespread, to say the least.
Well brobear, this thread was dead since December 27, at least today we brought it alive, lol. We brought the Eastern black bear alive.
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Post by brobear on Aug 23, 2021 2:45:39 GMT -5
bear-ology.org/BearFacts-Largest.aspx North Carolina’s Coastal Black Bears A little known Bear Fact is that coastal North Carolina is home to the largest black bears on the planet! How big are they? North Carolina’s coastal black bears average 50-100 lbs or more than their cousins. The current World Record black bear is an 880 lb. giant from Eastern North Carolina recorded in 1998. There have been more than a dozen bears over 700lbs recorded and dozens more over 600lbs harvested in the coastal region of North Carolina. In most of their North American range, an adult female black bear weighs an average of 150 lbs and an adult male weighs an average of 250 lbs. Coastal female, (sow), bears sometimes weigh 300lbs or more with the state record sow, (from Washington County), recorded in 2007 at 445lbs.
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Post by OldGreenGrolar on Aug 23, 2021 10:08:23 GMT -5
Good information above. It looks like the 880 pound American black bear is real.
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Post by brobear on Sept 10, 2021 4:39:43 GMT -5
www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2021/09/210909162234.htm Young female black bears in Asheville, North Carolina, are big, have cubs early. Black bears (Ursus americanus) reproduced at a younger age in urban areas and were nearly twice the size of bears in national forests shortly after their first birthdays. Published in the Journal of Mammalogy, the study of the reproduction and size of wild black bears living in and around the city of Asheville, North Carolina, has important implications for managing urban bear populations. Also, the results raise questions about the foraging activities and diet of urban bears, and whether food from people or an abundance of natural food could be providing the bears with a reproductive advantage. "Some of the bears in Asheville are reproducing at a young age, and they are big," said the study's lead author Nick Gould, postdoctoral research scholar at NC State. "It definitely leads us, as researchers, to ask additional questions: What's driving this kind of weight gain in young bears this early in life? Are they eating natural foods, bird seed and ornamental fruit, or feeding on residential garbage?" For this study, researchers collaborated with the residents of Asheville to capture black bears on private property between April 2014 and September 2018. The bears were temporarily sedated and then released on-site where they were captured. Researchers collected data on the bears' weight, age, general condition, sex, and other information. The research team used GPS-equipped radio collars, which were designed to fall off naturally or to be released remotely, to track the female bears to their den sites to monitor reproductive activity. They collected data on a total of 36 female bears around 1 year of age in Asheville. As a point of comparison, the researchers used data from three previous studies of bears living in rural areas in national forests in North Carolina and Virginia. They compared the data for urban female yearling bears to data for 95 female yearlings in rural forested areas. Researchers determined that the 36 female bears in Asheville weighed an average of nearly 100 pounds at 1 to 1 and a half years of age. In contrast, the sample of 95 female bears living in the three national forests weighed an average of 50 pounds at a similar age. Of the 12 female bears they were able to track back to their dens by their second birthdays in Asheville, seven produced a total of 11 cubs. In comparison, none of the three studies of bears in rural forested areas found that bears produced cubs by their second birthday. "We didn't expect 2-year-old females to be giving birth," Gould said. "Based on what we know about black bears, we thought we'd see litters from bears 3 years of age and older. These results open up new areas of research to learn more about wildlife living among people in developed areas." The researchers analyzed and compared the availability of an important natural food source for bears -- acorns and other nuts -- and didn't find differences that could help explain the larger size of these young female bears in the city. ( more to read on site )
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Post by brobear on Nov 23, 2021 16:54:55 GMT -5
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Post by brobear on Nov 24, 2021 3:24:49 GMT -5
About reply #33: These are merely estimates. But, consider how odd this is: 3 bears below the 100 pound range. 17 bears within the 100 pound range. 17 bears within the 200 pound range. 17 bears within the 300 pound range. 17 bears within the 400 pound range. 17 bears within the 500 pound range. 17 bears within the 600 pound range. 17 bears within the 700 pound range. 5 bears within the 800 pound range.
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Post by brobear on Nov 1, 2022 2:19:39 GMT -5
Caleb Henry took the big boar while hunting with his buddy and their hounds in Haywood County. It's likely a record for the area BY M.D. JOHNSON | PUBLISHED OCT 28, 2022 2:01 PM www.fieldandstream.com/hunting/western-north-carolina-record-black-bear/ 21-year-old, Caleb Henry, of Fines Creek, North Carolina, recently killed an absolutely massive black bear. On October 17, the opening day of bear season, he and his friend Lucas Teague took their bear dogs hunting in Haywood County. That day. Teague shot his first-ever bear—a 475-pound dandy. The next morning, the guys got back at it. “Lucas turned two dogs loose that morning, and I turned loose two,” Henry tells F&S. “They went down into this laurel thicket and split up. His two dogs got after a big one, and mine got after a smaller bear that was probably about 200 pounds.” Henry and Teague focused on the big bear and followed Teague’s dogs. They let out more dogs to run the big bruin, while the other two dogs treed the smaller bear. Once the dogs treed the big bear, Henry shot it once with a lever-action .35 Remington and dropped it. Getting such a massive critter out of the woods posed its own challenge. “Luckily, we weren’t too far from a trail that we could get our side-by-side down,” says Henry. “We used one of those big white ‘ton’ sacks. There were eight of us, and we all rolled him into that big sack, tied a rope to the sack, and tied a block and tackle to a tree. We dragged him with that side-by-side to the trail. Then we backed up against a high bank, and rolled him into the back of the side-by-side.” Once they got the bear home, they found out how big it really was. Hanging on a meat scale, the boar weighed incredible 695 pounds—a new record for Western North Carolina. It beat the old record for the area, a 688-pound bruin that was taken in Madison County. The hunt was the culmination of a lifetime of bear hunting. “I was probably eight or nine when I killed my first bear,” says Henry. “ I’ve been hunting ‘em ever since. The biggest one I’d shot before this weighed 320 pounds.” Henry is a houndsman and says he’s been raised by several generations of other avid houndsmen. He and his brother Cody train walkers and plotts, though his family has worked with blue ticks and redbones in the past. “My family and I don’t really like to sit in a stand to hunt bears,” he says. “To us, that’s not the way to do it. We’d rather do it with our dogs.”
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Post by brobear on Nov 1, 2022 2:20:44 GMT -5
695-Pound Black Bear (credits to King Kodiak) __________________
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Post by brobear on Nov 1, 2022 2:25:09 GMT -5
Personally, I view this as a tragedy that this "King of North Carolina's Smokey Mountains" will not be fathering cubs in the future from obviously great genes.
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Post by OldGreenGrolar on Nov 6, 2022 15:34:16 GMT -5
/\ Should have kept this bear alive. Killing an huge specimen is sickening.
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