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Post by King Kodiak on Apr 1, 2019 6:13:56 GMT -5
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Post by King Kodiak on Apr 1, 2019 6:16:57 GMT -5
MONGOLIAN BROWN BEAR (URSUS ARCTOS JENISEENSIS)
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Post by King Kodiak on Apr 4, 2019 16:40:54 GMT -5
MONGOLIAN BROWN BEAR (URSUS ARCTOS JENISEENSIS) - a new one on me.  |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2019 6:56:55 GMT -5
This bear is new to me too. Its a shame its hard to find info on the mongolian brown bear. Well done King Kodiak.
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Post by King Kodiak on Apr 5, 2019 16:25:39 GMT -5
This bear is new to me too. Its a shame its hard to find info on the mongolian brown bear. Well done King Kodiak. |
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Post by King Kodiak on Sept 6, 2020 1:17:02 GMT -5
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Post by OldGreenGrolar on Sept 6, 2020 5:48:20 GMT -5
/\ It looks like a smaller version of the Ussuri brown bear.
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Post by King Kodiak on Sept 6, 2020 7:06:17 GMT -5
/\ It looks like a smaller version of the Ussuri brown bear. |
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Post by King Kodiak on Dec 2, 2020 12:18:01 GMT -5
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Post by King Kodiak on Dec 2, 2020 13:05:22 GMT -5
Most likely the least studied brown bear subspecies. Anyhow, am not 100% sure but i think this subspecies (Ursus arctos Jeniseensis) has been removed. Wiki does not have a page for it, The "bear conservation site" does not either, and neither does the "Bears of the world" site. I think its just Gobi bear now (Ursus arctos gobiensis). The only report we ever had mentioning the Mongolian brown bear (Ursus arctos Jeniseensis) was this:
domainofthebears.proboards.com/thread/558/mongolian-brown-bear
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Post by brobear on Dec 2, 2020 13:24:51 GMT -5
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Post by brobear on Dec 2, 2020 13:34:07 GMT -5
Yes; could be Ursus arctos lasiotus:  |
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Post by King Kodiak on Dec 2, 2020 14:09:29 GMT -5
Lasiotus could range in Mongolia as that country is crunched between Southern Russia and Northern China, but am not so sure. According to this report, the only 2 subspecies in Mongolia are the Gobi bear (Ursus arctos gobiensis), and the Mongolian brown bear (Ursus arctos Jeniseensis). But in reality, the East Siberian brown bear (Ursus arctos collaris) also ranges in Northern Mongolia.
I think that the Ussuri brown bear (Ursus arctos Lasiotus) enters China thru the East of Mongolia, it might not go straight down thru it:
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Post by brobear on Dec 2, 2020 14:11:55 GMT -5
Quote: Lasiotus could range in Mongolia as that country is crunched between Southern Russia and Norther China, but am not so sure. According to this report, the only 2 subspecies in Mongolia are the Gobi bear (Ursus arctos gobiensis), and the Mongolian brown bear (Ursus arctos Jeniseensis).
*I know this King Kodiak. Did you not grasp the meaning of my post? Ursus arctos jeniseensis = Ursus arctos lasiotus ( maybe ).
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Post by King Kodiak on Dec 2, 2020 14:21:24 GMT -5
Yes brobear. If you analyze the map above, the RFE is just above where China starts to the Northeast, this is why Lasiotus does not enter Mongolia. So most likely Jeniseensis is Gobiensis.
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Post by brobear on Dec 2, 2020 14:40:29 GMT -5
Up to 400 kg ( 881.85 pounds ) with an average of 300 kg ( 661.39 pounds ). This looks like the weight of an Ussuri brown bear. Gobi bears are much smaller. pictured: Gobi bear.  |
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Post by King Kodiak on Dec 2, 2020 15:42:28 GMT -5
The average weight looks very similar yes. But Lasiotus having a range in Mongolia is not listed anywhere. But who knows? Maybe just maybe. Jeniseensis is at the North, Gobiensis is at the South:
In 1946, Mongolia's independence was recognized by the Republic of China, so maybe that's part of the confusion:
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mongolia
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Post by brobear on Dec 2, 2020 15:46:34 GMT -5
Its like this ( IMO ) either U.a. jeniseensis and U.a. lasiotus are one-and-the-same subspecies; or jeniseensis is a ligitamate subspecies.
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Post by King Kodiak on Dec 2, 2020 15:52:26 GMT -5
Its like this ( IMO ) either U.a. jeniseensis and U.a. lasiotus are one-and-the-same subspecies; or jeniseensis is a ligitamate subspecies.
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Post by brobear on Dec 2, 2020 16:07:05 GMT -5
Quote: The average weight looks very similar yes. But Lasiotus having a range in Mongolia is not listed anywhere. *It wouldn't be listed anywhere if it were being tagged as Ursus arctos jeniseensis.  |
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