Bear intereaction with wolves

[malikc6]

A pride of lions honestly may prove to be quite invasive for the environment. They may eat up too much animals if they were to multiply. A tiger on the other hand being solitary wouldn't be too much of an issue. It would be just a bigger cougar. The ecosystem would change but it would still be for the most part ok. A tiger would have to potentially worry about aggressive packs of wolves and obviously the larger grizzly bear, so they would be kept in check. Lion prides however would be immune to such power.

[smedz]

Sept 24, 2020 15:34:19 GMT -5 tom said:

Sept 24, 2020 12:16:53 GMT -5 King Kodiak said:

Reply #261: wow, great find brobear, that is new. So we have videos of grizzlies displacing wolf packs of 14 members and now 20 members. And we also have an account of a grizzly that fended off 24 wolves if i remember correctly.

For a minute though it looked like the pack when they were all together may have pestered the bear enough to have him on the run a little bit. But he stood his ground at the end and the wolves started to loose interest in trying to drive him away. Free meal is a free meal when you're the biggest bully in the neighborhood.

Now.... Hypothetically if we replaced the Grizzly with a Male Lion (in his prime), would the end result be the same as the Grizzly?

For this we must ask the question, how are grizzlies able to take carcasses from wolves? Size and power are the main thing. A grizzly is several times bigger than the wolf and with one swipe, can actually kill a wolf. The loss of even a few members can be costly as in confrontations with other packs just having one more wolf increases their chances of winning by 140%, times that by 3 and that would be a 420% higher chance if winning. If 3 wolves are killed in a fight with a grizzly that will decrease those odds of winning by 420%. A male lion, unlike his lady, has enough power in his paws to kill a spotted hyena hence the hyenas will flee or keep their distance from him. If a group of 20 or more wolves meets a male lion in his prime for the first time they will lack that knowledge, but when the big cat kills some of the wolves, the pack will learn, this cat, unlike the cougar, is a worthy opponent. However, unlike the grizzly which benefits from wolves, the lion will view the wolf as one thing only: a competitor for prey thus the lion will have not only enough power to kill a wolf with his paws and claws, but also a higher drive to kill. 

[smedz]

      

This has to be one of the worst things I've seen on wolves. 
1. The reality is that the grizzly will take the kills the wolves make. What they show is harassment;annoyance rather then hunting. 

2. "Deer are their favorite prey" During the winter in Yellowstone, elk make up 90% of their winter diet, deer make up 10-15% of their summer diet. While wolves in Voyageurs National Park hunt deer in the winter, in the summer they take advantage of smaller food items like fish and beavers and Indian wolves don't even eat deer period. 

[King Kodiak]

Reply #235: you are right, that video is crap, lmao. "Sometimes wolves go after grizzly bears, surround him, attack him until he bleeds out". when and where? There is not one account of an adult grizzly bear being killed by wolves that i know of. I only know of two cubs being killed by wolves.

[malikc6]

I find it interesting how there could be 20+ wolves and they're willing to submit to one big bear. Honestly 10 wolves could kill any bear if they attacked all at once. It doesn't fit their nature but it's insane how strength in numbers becomes irrelevant to a bear. It's the same thing with several hyenas and a lone lion. Two male lions intimidated 40 hyenas!

Dholes are a different story, as they've been seen overwhelming tigers and sloth bears.

[OldGreenGrolar]

I have to say one thing. It is risky for wolves to directly engage in a grizzly bear other than nipping as a sacrifice of pack members means the lost of an asset to bring down large prey. That is the same reason why packs of spotted hyenas fear male lions too.

No wild animal no matter how aggressive, is like that of a fighting dog and game rooster (due to men’s intervention).


Wolves and lions while capable of corporation themselves in groups are not gladiator dogs.

[brobear]

Sept 27, 2020 0:02:08 GMT -5 malikc6 said:

I find it interesting how there could be 20+ wolves and they're willing to submit to one big bear. Honestly 10 wolves could kill any bear if they attacked all at once. It doesn't fit their nature but it's insane how strength in numbers becomes irrelevant to a bear. It's the same thing with several hyenas and a lone lion. Two male lions intimidated 40 hyenas!

Dholes are a different story, as they've been seen overwhelming tigers and sloth bears.

Wolves do not sacrifice pack members for a meal. Sure, it happens. A pack member can be injured or even killed in a hunt; but never sacrificed. Wolves and bears have shared the taiga of both N. America and Eurasia for a million-plus years. The wolves are well aware of the bear's great strength and durability. To kill a big boar grizzly would with an almost certainty cost the pack at least one member. Too big of a price to pay for a few days worth of groceries. 
The brown bear has also learned of the eons. The wolves are ( estimation ) 98% bluff. 
 
*Note: On the topic of dholes - there have been some rather heavy debates as to their actual ferocity.

[OldGreenGrolar]

Dholes and spotted hyenas do not sacrifice pack members either. The destruction of pack members makes them vulnerable to a neighbouring pack which could see this as an opportunity to increase their territory.

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Sept 26, 2020 14:52:06 GMT -5 smedz said:

      

This has to be one of the worst things I've seen on wolves. 
1. The reality is that the grizzly will take the kills the wolves make. What they show is harassment;annoyance rather then hunting. 

2. "Deer are their favorite prey" During the winter in Yellowstone, elk make up 90% of their winter diet, deer make up 10-15% of their summer diet. While wolves in Voyageurs National Park hunt deer in the winter, in the summer they take advantage of smaller food items like fish and beavers and Indian wolves don't even eat deer period. 

This is, no offense, a very bad point (#2). The hell ?

buddy, elk represented 90 % maybe the first 5 years (1995-2000), then bison % rose. Up to 32 % in 2019. They rarely eat deers (unless you call an elk a deer, which it is, but i take Whitetail & mule deer as deers, elk as elk.

see by yourself, next post

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Composition of Yellowstone Wolf Kills (1995-2019)

1995 : 50 Kills

- 48 Elks (96 %)
- 1 Moose (2 %)
- 1 Mountain Goat (2 %)

1996 : 142 kills

- 137 Elk (96.5 %)
- 2 Moose (1.4 %)
- 1 Pronghorn (0.7 %)
- 1 Mule Deer (0.7 %)
- 1 White-Tailed Deer (0.7 %)

1997 : 257 kills

- 234 Elk (91.0 %)
- 8 Moose (3.1 %)
- 6 Mule Deer (2.3 %)
- 2 Bison (0.8 %)
- 1 Beaver (0.4 %)
- 6 Unidentified Animals (2.3 %)

1998 : 109 definite and 120 probable wolf kills [229]

- 197 elk (86 %)
- 6 mule deer (3%)
- 7 coyote (3%)
- 6 pronghorn (3%)
- 5 bison (2%)
- 3 moose (1%)
- 4 unknown prey (2%)
- 1 wolf (0.4 %)

1999 : 110 definite and 206 probable wolf kills [316]

- 276 elk (87%)
- 14 bison (4%)
- 7 moose (2%)
- 2 mule deer (<1%)
- 3 coyotes (1%)
- 1 short-eared owl (<1%)
- 1 wolf (<1%),
- 12 unknown prey (4%).

2000 : 113 definite and 210 probable wolf kills [323]

- 281 Elk (87% of total)
- 10 bison (3%)
- 4 moose (1%)
- 5 deer (1.5%)
- 4 coyotes (1%)
- 1 wolf (0.3 %)
- 17 unknown prey (5%).

2001 : 161 definite and 196 probable wolf kills [357]

- 311 Elk (87% of total)
- 6 bison (2%)
- 1 moose (<0.5%)
- 6 deer (2%)
- 1 pronghorn (<0.5%)
- 6 coyotes (2%)
- 26 unknown prey (7%).

2002 : 132 definite, 206 probable, and 8 possible wolf kills [346]

- 291 Elk (84% of total)
- 21 bison (6%)
- 4 deer (1%)
- 4 coyotes (1%)
- 4 wolves (1%)
- 1 badger (<0.5%)
- 1 Canada goose (<0.5%)
- 22 unknown prey (6%).

2003 : 99 definite, 239 probable and 37 possible wolf kills [375]

- 313 elk (83% of total)
- 22 bison, (6%)
- 7 moose (2%)
- 3 deer (1%)
- 1 cougar (<1%)
- 4 coyotes (1%)
- 4 wolves (1%)
- 1 porcupine (<1%)
- 1 sandhill crane (<1%)
- 19 unknown prey (5%).

2004 : 295 wolf kills (definite, probable, and possible combined) made by wolves in 2004

- 240 Elk (81%)
- 19 bison (6%)
- 1 moose (<1%)
- 4 deer (1%)
- 4 pronghorn (1%)
- 1 badger (<1%)
- 2 cougars (1%)
- 6 coyotes (2%)
- 1 golden eagle (<1%)
- 2 grizzly bear cubs (1%)
- 1 raven (<1%)
- 3 wolves (1%)
- 11 unknown prey (4%).

2005 : 316 wolf kills (definite, probable, and possible combined)

- 244 elk (77%)
- 29 bison (9%)
- 9 wolves (3%)
- 6 deer (2%)
- 4 moose (1%)
- 4 coyotes (1%)
- 2 skunks (1%)
- 2 ravens (1%)
- 1 pronghorn (<1%)
- 1 badger (<1%)
- 14 unknown prey (4%).

2006 : 281 wolf kills (definite, probable, and possible combined)

- 219 elk (80%)
- 30 bison (14%)
- 6 coyotes (2%)
- 5 wolves (2%)
- 3 deer (1%)
- 2 bighorn sheep (<1%)
- 2 moose (<1%)
- 1 beaver (<1%)
- 1 golden eagle (<1%)
- 12 unknown prey (4%).

2007 : 323 wolf kills (definite, probable, and possible combined)

- 272 elk (84%)
- 11 bison (3.4%)
- 7 wolves (2%)
- 4 deer (1%)
- 4 coyotes (1%)
- 3 moose (<1%)
- 2 black bears (<1%)
- 1 pronghorn (<1%)
- 1 golden eagle (<1%)
- 1 red fox (<1%)
- 1 otter (<1%)
- 16 unknown prey (5%).

2008 : 576 definite, probable, or possible wolf kills

- 463 elk (80%)
- 23 bison (4%),
- 19 deer (3%)
- 13 coyotes (2%)
- 11 wolves (2%)
- 5 pronghorn (0.9%)
- 3 moose (0.5%)
- 3 grouse (0.5%)
- 2 bighorn sheep (0.3%)
- 2 ravens (0.3%)
- 1 beaver (0.2%)
- 1 golden eagle (0.2%)
- 1 grizzly bear (cub) (0.2%)
- 1 cougar (0.2%)
- 1 red fox (0.2%)
- 1 otter (0.2%)
- 26 unknown prey (5%).

2009 : 365 wolf kills in 2009

- 302 elk (83%)
- 19 bison (5%)
- 7 deer (2%)
- 6 wolves (2%)
- 4 pronghorn (1.1%)
- 3 coyotes (0.8%)
- 2 red foxes (0.5%)
- 1 moose (0.3%)
- 1 bighorn sheep (0.3%)
- 1 Canada goose (0.3%)
- 1 bald eagle (0.3%)
- 8 unknown prey (2%)

2010 : 268 wolf kills in 2010 (definite, probable, and possible combined)

- 211 elk (79%)
- 25 bison (9%)
- 7 deer (3%)
- 4 wolves (1%)
- 2 moose (<1%)
- 2 pronghorn (<1%)
- 2 grizzly bears [cubs] (< 1%)
- 4 coyotes (1%)
- 2 ravens (<1%)
- 10 unknown species (4%).

2011 : 343 Wolf kills (definite, probable and possible combined)

- 267 elk (78%)
- 15 bison (4%)
- 18 deer (5%)
- 1 moose (<1%),
- 2 pronghorn (<1%)
- 2 bighorn sheep (<1%)
- 2 badgers (<1%)
- 1 jackrabbit (<1%)
- 14 coyotes (4%)
- 1 raven (<1%)
- 7 wolves (2%)
- 13 unknown prey (4%).

2012 : 255 Wolf kills (definite, probable and possible combined)

- 159 elk (62%)
- 32 bison (13%)
- 13 mule deer (5%)
- 2 whitetail deer (1%)
- 5 deer unknown species (2%)
- 4 pronghorn (2%)
- 2 moose (1%)
- 2 Canada geese (1%)
- 9 wolves (4%)
- 1 bighorn sheep (<1%)
- 1 otter (<1%)
- 1 grizzly bear cub (<1%)
- 1 coyote (<1%)
- 23 unknown prey (9%)

2013 : 269 kills that were definitely, probably, or possibly made by wolves

- 193 elk (72%)
- 16 bison (6%)
- 13 mule deer (5%)
- 7 deer of unknown species (3%)
- 5 coyotes (2%)
- 4 pronghorn (1%)
- 4 wolves (1%)
- 3 bighorn sheep (1%)
- 2 moose (<1%)
- 2 badgers (<1%)
- 1 red fox (<1%)
- 1 porcupine (<1%)
- 1 muskrat (<1%)
- 1 long-tailed weasel (<1%)
- 1 fish (<1%)
- 15 unidentified animals (6%).

2014 : 227 kills that were definitely, probably or possibly made by wolves

- 148 elk (65%)
- 20 bison (9%)
- 13 mule deer (5%)
- 10 deer of unknown species (4%, probably mule deer)
- 5 coyotes (2%)
- 3 moose (1%)
- 3 wolves (1%)
- 1 badger (<1%)
- 1 beaver (<1%)
- 1 bighorn sheep (<1%)
- 1 goose (<1%)
- 1 raven (<1%)
- 1 pronghorn (<1%)
- 19 unidentified animals (8%).

2015 : 199 kills that were definitely, probably or possibly made by wolves

- 137 elk (69%)
- 14 bison (7%)
- 14 deer of unknown species (7% probably mule deer)
- 7 mule deer (3.5%)
- 3 coyotes (1.5%)
- 3 moose (1.5%)
- 3 wolves (1.5%)
- 1 badger (<1%)
- 1 otter (<1%)
- 1 pronghorn (<1%)
- 15 unidentified animals (7.5%).

2016 : 235 kills that were definitely, probably or possibly made by wolves

- 161 elk (68.5%)
- 19 bison (8.1%)
- 5 mule deer (2.1%)
- 14 deer of unknown species (6% probably mule deer)
- 4 coyotes (1.7%)
- 3 wolves (1.3%)
- 3 pronghorn (1.3%)
- 3 bighorn sheep (1.3%)
- 2 badgers (0.9%)
- 2 snowshoe hares (0.9%)
- 1 moose (0.4%)
- 1 beaver (0.4%)
- 17 unidentified animals (7.2%).

2017 : 233 kills that were definitely, probably or possibly made by wolves

- 150 elk (64.4%)
- 31 bison (13.3%)
- 12 mule deer (5.2%)
- 8 deer of unknown species (3.4%)
- 7 coyotes (3.0%)
- 3 white-tailed deer (1.3%)
- 2 snowshoe hares (0.9%)
- 1 wolf (0.4%)
- 1 pronghorn (0.4%)
- 1 badger (0.4%)
- 1 moose (0.4%)
- 1 golden eagle (0.4%)
- 1 otter (0.4%)
- 14 unidentified animals (6.0%).

2018 : 151 kills that were definitely, probably or possibly made by wolves

- 95 elk (62.9%)
- 25 bison (16.6%)
- 11 mule deer (7.3%)
- 3 deer of unknown species (2.0%)
- 2 coyotes (3.0%)
- 2 pronghorn (1.3%)
- 1 grizzly bear (0.6%)
- 1 mountain lion (0.6%)
- 11 unidentified animals (7.3%).

2019 : 186 kills that were definitely, probably or possibly made by wolves :

- 111 elk (59.7%)
- 38 bison (20.4%)
- 11 mule deer (5.9%)
- 2 deer of unknown species (1.1%)
- 3 coyotes (1.6%)
- 2 pronghorn (1.1%)
- 2 ravens (1.1%)
- 1 red fox (0.5%)
- 1 moose (0.5%)
- 1 golden eagle (0.5%)
- 1 bald eagle (0.5%)
- 1 mountain lion (0.5%)
- 1 domestic dog (0.5%)
- 11 unidentified animals (5.9%).

Source : Yellowstone Wolf Project Annuals Reports 1995-2019

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Total Wolves Kills 1995-2019 [24 years]

6917 (Definite, probable, or possible) wolf kills 

Average : 288 Wolf Kills/year

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Prey/Inter & Intraspecific competition wolf kills [% of all kills + Best % a year]

- 5450 Elk (78.8 %) [96 % in 1996 & 1997]

- 446 Bison (6.4 %) [20.4 % in 2019]

- 149 Unknown Species of Deer (Mule Deer or White-Tailed Deer) (2.2 %) [7 % in 2015]

- 112 Coyotes (1.6 %) [4 % in 2011]

- 100 Mule Deer (1.4 %) [7.3 % in 2018]

- 86 Wolf (1.2 %) [4 % in 2012]

- 64 Moose (0.9 %) [3.1 % in 1997]

- 45 Pronghorn (0.7 %)

- 15 Bighorn Sheep (0.2 %)

- 12 Badger (0.2 %)

- 11 Raven (0.2 %)

- 7 Grizzly Bears [Cubs] (0.1 %)

- 6 Red Fox (0.09 %)

- 6 Mountain Lion (0.09 %)

- 6 Golden Eagle (0.09 %)

- 5 Beaver (0.07 %)

- 5 Canada Goose (0.07 %)

- 5 Otter (0.07 %)

- 4 White-Tailed Deer (0.06 %)

- 4 Snowshoe Hare (0.06 %)

- 3 Grouse (0.04 %)

- 2 Bald Eagle (0.03 %)

- 2 Porcupine (0.03 %)

- 2 Skunk (0.03 %)

- 2 American Black Bear (0.03 %)

- 1 Sandhill Crane (0.01 %)

- 1 Short-Eared Owl (0.01 %)

- 1 Mountain Goat (0.01 %)

- 1 Jackrabbit (0.01 %)

- 1 Muskrat (0.01 %)

- 1 Long Tailed Weasel (0.01 %)

- 1 Fish (0.01 %)

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Note : Most time, if not all the time, wolves do not eat coyotes, bears, wolves & cougars. The purpose of their killing are battle at carcasses, getting rid of competitors as much for the pups or for food & Territorial Dispute between packs.

If we do not take in account predators [Wolf, Coyote, Black Bear, Grizzly, Mountain Lion], which counts together as 3.02 % [213 kills out of 6917],

Elk (5450) and Bison (446) counts for respectively 81.3% & 6.7 % of all kills [Out of 6704]

[King Kodiak]

That is very good and detailed info TNG, thanks. You definitely are our wolf expert. incredible how much elk these wolves kill. 

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Sept 27, 2020 16:19:08 GMT -5 King Kodiak said:

That is very good and detailed info TNG, thanks. You definitely are our wolf expert. incredible how much elk these wolves kill. 

That is a very appreciated comment Kodiak. Thank you.

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I should note that wolves do not eliminate elk populations and are not vermin. They re-stabilized an ecosystem missing a key predator for 70 years [which was the wolf, exterminated in the 1920s of the yellowstone sadly].

Brown & Black Bears [in a lesser way] gained so much from wolves being reintroduced and nearly all herbivores [as well as small predators as well, since their preys either came back or grew back an healthy population number] populations except elk rose in numbers.

Elk population grew healthier each year because the flaws [sick, genetics, old] were eliminated as well as the competition among the specie decreased with the predation from wolves.

The elk were eating all the vegetation and dying by hundreds each winter due to lack of food. They were their own enemies in fact, since they had to compete for food.

Yes, indeed, it got to that point with an herbivore : Battling amongst its own species for veggies.

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Bears need an huge amount of food to survive winter by gaining a massive fat %, which help the bear body to stay cool [not to freeze or being cold] during the winter alongside their extraordinary system which can lower the metabolism activity for an minimal energy lost. Without wolves, they wouldn't have relatively free elk or bison carcasses to gorge themselves.

Also, bears eat a lot of fruits, berries and wildflowers. Don't forget that any bear except the polar bear [Almost exclusively carnivore] & The Sloth Bear [Almost Exclusively Insectivore] are omnivorous.

Before wolves regulate the elk population, they overgrazed and destroy the vegetative landscape & even eroding waterbanks. Since elks have a good height & an good neck length, they easily reached for fruits in trees and leaves [Might need to check what i said here but i find highly accurate and logical].

The fact is that they aren't picky grazers, as bison are .

Bears were short on berries, flowers. they were short of high protein meals provided by wolves.

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Coyotes prospered and became the dominant predator of the Yellowstone Winter Landscape for 70 years, ruling as the king pin predator alongside the notorious Bald & Golden Eagle

[Bears sleeping winter in a den, shallow tree, hole, big rock, Brobear or nearly every member here know better than i do.]

Bison were fine and in the process of recovering from the near extinction they suffered & didn't need regulation just yet.

Bighorn Sheep & Mountain Goats & White-Tailed & Mule Deer & Pronghorn were all outnumbered by elks and being dominated in the Interspecific Competition for food.

Elk, in the absence of wolf, adapted to new habitats from their usual prairie, plains, valley and forest line. They were everywhere, literally. They didn't avoid any areas they would when wolves are presents, and multiple studies have note, predict, observe, study and proved this behavior.

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To make it short, wolves are what the lions are in Africa.

Remove all lions, what will the landscape look and what would happen ?

Overpopulation of Giraffe, Elephants, Buffalo, Rhino, Wildebeest, Zebra, Hippo. Since they will grow with just an occasional lost of a calf or an adult [zebra, wildebeest] from time to time from a pack of endangered wild dog, a bold leopard, a very very bold cheetah, hyenas and finally, the nile crocodile.

Hyenas would rule Africa since they are very social animals as opposed to leopards. Hyenas are hunters that are relying on stamina and their bite force. They do not have the power of a lion or a leopard to bring down a wildebeest nor can they grapple it down [because you know a cat claw vs a dog claw ....(Hyenas have their own family, but close enough to canids)]

With that idea and knowledge, they are classified as scavengers and opportunist predators. They have a neat smelling and hearing. Wild Dogs & Cheetahs are cursorial predators that mostly hunts relatively small to medium size antelopes [Impala, Springbok, Thompson Gazelle, etc]. 

Jackals would probably go extinct in a matters of decades if lions went extinct [feeding on kills] as would maybe the arctic fox if the polar bear had to become extinct.

The upper limit includes in general Topi, Hartebeest and compagny.

If did a list, these herbivores would steadily grow nearly exponentially to the capacity limit of their habitats following curves of growth. All these species have fast to very long gestation [time lapse between the mating of an individual and the resulting offspring and then how much time before they become again in oestrus [being receptive to reproducing].

- Elephant
- Rhinoceros
- Hippo
- Giraffes
- Cape Buffalo
- Common Eland
- Greater Kudu
- Zebra
- Wildebeest
- Sable Antelope
- Roan Antelope
- Gemsbok

They are too big to be killed in a regular interval or/and have massive horns that are extremely dangerous (Gemsbok, Roan and Sable Antelope) for a leopard to tackle them.

Lions are extremely important. The same responsability of being such a key specie can be attributed to tigers in Southern Asia, Wolves in Europe while the ecosystem of South America got both the cougar and jaguar as key regulators of the big wildlife.

Truth be told, it seems that Oceania [Which consists of nearly Australia, New Zealand, New Guinea, and many small islands] is missing that key predator. The Dingo is maybe the only carnivoran predator of Australia weighing over 10 kg, and unfortunately, i might very well be right.

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When a species battles for the same food among its own species, it is called Intraspecific Competition

When a species battles for same food with other species, it is called Interspecific Competition. [For example : A wolf pack & a bear]

[smedz]

Sept 27, 2020 16:04:38 GMT -5 thenormalguy said:

Sept 26, 2020 14:52:06 GMT -5 smedz said:

      

This has to be one of the worst things I've seen on wolves. 
1. The reality is that the grizzly will take the kills the wolves make. What they show is harassment;annoyance rather then hunting. 

2. "Deer are their favorite prey" During the winter in Yellowstone, elk make up 90% of their winter diet, deer make up 10-15% of their summer diet. While wolves in Voyageurs National Park hunt deer in the winter, in the summer they take advantage of smaller food items like fish and beavers and Indian wolves don't even eat deer period. 

This is, no offense, a very bad point (#2). The hell ?

buddy, elk represented 90 % maybe the first 5 years (1995-2000), then bison % rose. Up to 32 % in 2019. They rarely eat deers (unless you call an elk a deer, which it is, but i take Whitetail & mule deer as deers, elk as elk.

see by yourself, next post

I was just saying elk are the most favored prey item for wolves in Yellowstone. The person in the video said "Deer are their favorite prey", not me, I was just quoting them and correcting them. And so did you with your diet charts.

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Sept 27, 2020 19:54:02 GMT -5 smedz said:

Sept 27, 2020 16:04:38 GMT -5 thenormalguy said:

This is, no offense, a very bad point (#2). The hell ?

buddy, elk represented 90 % maybe the first 5 years (1995-2000), then bison % rose. Up to 32 % in 2019. They rarely eat deers (unless you call an elk a deer, which it is, but i take Whitetail & mule deer as deers, elk as elk.

see by yourself, next post

I was just saying elk are the most favored prey item for wolves in Yellowstone. The person in the video said "Deer are their favorite prey", not me, I was just quoting them and correcting them. And so did you with your diet charts.

Yeah, once i red again what you said, i didn't red properly my bad. People having so much sub and spreading bull Crap is depressing

[King Kodiak]

Before wolves regulate the elk population, they overgrazed and destroy the vegetative landscape & even eroding waterbanks. Since elks have a good height & an good neck length, they easily reached for fruits in trees and leaves [Might need to check what i said here but i find highly accurate and logical].

Yes sir very true, i read this before. So there have been alot of benefits with the reintroduction of wolves.

[smedz]

Sept 28, 2020 0:59:48 GMT -5 King Kodiak said:

Before wolves regulate the elk population, they overgrazed and destroy the vegetative landscape & even eroding waterbanks. Since elks have a good height & an good neck length, they easily reached for fruits in trees and leaves [Might need to check what i said here but i find highly accurate and logical].

Yes sir very true, i read this before. So there have been alot of benefits with the reintroduction of wolves.

And so has the local economy, wolf watching in Yellowstone brings in $35 million a year, boosting the economic impact to $70 million. 

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Yes, it is a major attraction (i should say opportunity) to see wild wolves

[brobear]

www.majesticanimals.net/unique-encounter-between-grizzly-bear-and-wolf-in-yellowstone?fbclid=IwAR0uL-8V9LSkZcc0pZXUkgzS8NjHiX01EX7DTnCUmpOm6TDHzT9USV4L-tg

Photographer captures a once in a lifetime encounter between grizzly bear and wolf
By Nick -11 October, 2020

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Yellowstone Wolf Packs [2020]

Duration : 1 min 13 s

This video showcase the 9 Wolf Packs roaming Yellowstone National Park as of October 2020. It is a very light video in terms of informations, but the goal of this video is it simplicity !

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Ce vidéo donne la liste des meutes de loups présent dans le Parc National de Yellowstone en date d'octobre 2020. Cet vidéo est très légèrement chargée car son but est de présenter de les meutes de façon très simple et attrayante.

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Enjoy ! Bon visionnement !

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References/Sources :

Yellowstone Wolf Project Annual Reports :

www.nps.gov/yell/learn/nature/wolf-reports.htm

For all the packs informations except Carnelian Creek

Yellowstone Wolf Tracker :

www.facebook.com/yellowstonewolftracker

Informations on the newly formed pack of 2020

[King Kodiak]

Great videos TNG, very informative.