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Post by brobear on May 16, 2017 15:21:54 GMT -5
Davy Crockett (the myth), not the real David Crockett, had a pet bear named Death Hug. His pal Death Hug was the only bear in all of Tennessee that young Davy couldn't out wrestle.
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Post by brobear on Jan 13, 2019 10:42:28 GMT -5
BEAR - Myth, Animal, Icon by Wolf D. Storl. copyright 2018. Please BEAR with me. I just received this book yesterday. After skimming through it, I'm thinking that maybe I might consider it as a sister-book to BEAR, History of a Fallen King. So, please be patient and bear with me. I will post a little after each chapter. About the author: Born in 1942 in Saxony, Germany, with a green thumb and the gift of writing, cultured anthropologist and ethnobotanist Wolf Dieter Storl, who Immigrated with his parents to the United States in 1954, has had a special connection to nature since childhood. His specific area of research is shamanism and healing in traditional societies, focusing on the role of plants in all aspects of life, including sacred symbolism, magic, medicine, foods, and poisons. He has pursued this interest in many parts of the world. After finishing his PhD in anthropology on a Fulbright scholarship in 1974 in Berne, Switzerland, he taught anthropology and sociology in Grants Pass, Oregon. Storl is also an avid traveler and has observed nature around the entire globe, spending time with people who are very connected to the nature that surrounds them. From 1982 to 1983, he spent a year as an official visiting scholar at the Benares Hindu University in Varanasi, India. After returning to the United States in 1984, he spent two years with traditional medicine persons of the Cheyenne and taught course at Sheridan College in Sheridan, Wyoming. He has traveled and conducted research in South Asia, India, Mexico, the Canary Islands, South Africa, and much of Europe, pursuing ethnobotanical and ethnomedicinal interests. His books and articles have been translated into various languages including Czech, Danish, Dutch, English, French, Italian, Japanese, Latvian, Polish, Portuguese, Spanish, and Russian. Storl is a frequent guest on German, Swiss, and Austrian television and has also appeared on the BBC. After another visit in India and Nepal in 1986, Storl and his wife moved to Germany, where he writes and lectures. They live on an old estate with a large garden in the foothills of the Alps. Storl's books are unique in that he does not treat nature with cold objectivism. He is able to delve into nature's depths and supports his experience with ancient lore from all over the world that has been, for the most part, left on the wayside in the wake of objective science. He theorized that science is not always as objective as it claims to be and invites his readers on a journey into a world of nature that is completely alive and has its own rhyme and reason. Myths and lore from many cultures also have a prominent place in his writings, as he claims that the images portrayed in this way often tell us more about the true nature of things than dry, scientific facts can do.
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Post by brobear on Jan 13, 2019 11:30:47 GMT -5
After hand-copying and then, when almost finished, this computer screws-up and I lost everything, I will have to type and save a little at a time. Lesson learned - ( above post ). INTRODUCTION The more we get engrossed in time and hurry along with it, the farther away it takes us from the everlasting. This also applies as far as animals are concerned; never have we known more and ( at the same time ) less about them, never more regarding their anatomy and behavior, and never less regarding their divine nature, their pristine radianceof the creation. Fairy tales and myths reveal them to be miraculous and ancient; cults understand them to be divine beings. Ernst Juenger, author's translation from Hund Und Katz, 1974.
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Post by brobear on Jan 13, 2019 13:56:07 GMT -5
The old Squamish Chief See Yahtlh ( a.k.a. Seattle ) was right when he warned the white intruders: "What is man without the beasts? If all the beasts were gone, man would die from a great loneliness of the spirit. For whatever happens to the beasts, soon happens to man" ( Seattle 1854 ). A strong shaman, who may even have a bear as a totem, can also communicate with these even more remote kinds of spirits. But they not only observe externally; they also go beyond the ordinary senses. Dreams and visions as well as shamanic techniques such as deep meditation, long fasts and vigils, trances, dances and drumming for some tribes, and mind-altering plants for some others connect them to the specific animal spirit, with the lord, or the mother, of the animals. They dress in the fur of the animal of a bison, an elk, or a bear, move and dance the way the animal moves, and sing age-old songs about that animal until they are in unison with it and the border between human and animal disappears. Their soul flies then as a raven, owl, or eagle, swims like a dolphin, lopes as a wolf with the pack through the tundra or prairie, or moves as an elk through the forests. Unlike scientists, who only observe animals externally and measure their external reactions, they experience the animals, so to say, from the inside.
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Post by brobear on Jan 14, 2019 5:59:06 GMT -5
ANIMAL ALLIES: Indigenous peoples tell us that each person has his or her animal or animal helpers that are connected to the person for better or for worse. The Aztecs called a person's doppelganger nagual, that is, the animal that mirrors the person's wild nature. The nagual often shows itself during pregnancy. During the night of a birth, Central American Indios watch to see and hear which animals appear. If a jaguar, a boar, or another strong animal appears, then the newborn will surely have a strong personality and will possibly become a shaman. Often the child will be named after his or her animal doppelganger. For European peoples of ancient times, such thoughts were not at all strange either. In Scandinavia, animal doppelgangers were called "accompanying souls," or fylgia ( related to "follow" ). The souls of strong men or women roam the woods as bears, wild pigs, stags, or wolves. They fly through the skies as eagles, ravens, and swans, and as salmon or otters they swim through the waters ( Meyer 1988, 262 ). The warrior Bjarki ( described in a story in Chapter 13 ) fought as a bear on the battlefield while his body lay rigidly in a deep trance.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2019 6:34:09 GMT -5
Inuits believe the bear spirits are the most powerful spirits and that it is forbidden to hunt another polar bear too soon.
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Post by brobear on Jan 15, 2019 4:24:10 GMT -5
BEAR, Myth, Animal, Icon goes on to tell about how a shaman is helped by various animal familiars. But, the most powerful shaman is as follows... Of all the medicine people, the bear shaman, or bear dreamer, has a very special status because bears are, in fact, almost like humans. The Quechua people in the Andes call bears ukuku, which means half human. Those who know bears well tell us that each bear has a very individual personality. However, unlike humans, its ego is not capsuled off and caught up in a net of culturally specified verbal and symbolic constructs. Despite the bear's particular individuality, it remains intimately connected to the macrocosmic group soul, to the bear spirit, to nature. In this way, the bear is a mediator between the worlds, and this is exactly how many indigenous people have experienced the bear. For them, a bear is not simply an animal; a god-like being is hidden under his bearskin. For many native American and Siberian peoples, such as the Khanty, Tungus, Samoyed, and Finns, the bear is a go-between for the heavenly god and the earth goddess. The bear, this animal of earth and caves, is attributed to the earth goddess and the fertile female realm. But at the same time, it is also attributed to heavenly spheres, highest gods, and fertile weather deities. Like a genuine shaman, it is a being of both worlds. A bear is a forest animal and a forest human, a strong guardian of the threshold to the otherworld. The bear is the messenger of the gods and as such, a benevolent guest of the middle world, the human world.
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Post by brobear on Jan 16, 2019 16:48:02 GMT -5
Korol ( who is not new here ) says ( quote ): That is an opinion. The Bear is the King of the Animals was the opinion of all peoples of Europe, northern Asia, and N. America for tens of thousands of years. In Europe, this was changed by The Church because they feared the bear because of superstitious reasons. It's history: FACT. The lion has held the title in Europe Since between 100 AD and 1200 AD ( depending on the location of Europe ). The Germanic people were the last to accept the lion, which was simply hand-picked by the church as a replacement animal as WAR was declared upon the bear.
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Post by King Kodiak on Jan 16, 2019 17:00:38 GMT -5
Yes and if people would read the book “history of a fallen king” , they will realize who was really the king of the beasts, worshiped like a god for hundreds of years. Feared. Not to mention the Roman Colosseum battles, you people should read what it says about that in the other thread. People dont read, thats the problem. Anyways, lets not leave this topic which is this great book brobear is reading.
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Post by brobear on Jan 25, 2019 5:27:46 GMT -5
Yes and if people would read the book “history of a fallen king” , they will realize who was really the king of the beasts, worshiped like a god for hundreds of years. Feared. Not to mention the Roman Colosseum battles, you people should read what it says about that in the other thread. People dont read, thats the problem. Anyways, lets not leave this topic which is this great book brobear is reading. How far back does man's acknowledgement go to the bear's superiority to the other animals? The tomb of a man buried along with the skull of a brown bear 80,000 BC. The oldest statue in all of history is that of a bear. Perhaps as long as there has been mankind in Europe, the bear was their King of Beasts.
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Post by King Kodiak on Jan 25, 2019 5:57:03 GMT -5
“The tomb of a man buried along with the skull of a brown bear 80,000 BC.”
Yes sir, this is trully incredible here, its one of the most awesome things i ever heard. Also the rituals inside the caves.
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Post by brobear on Jan 25, 2019 6:45:26 GMT -5
Most incredible of all is, the bear became mankind's top beast during an age of mega-beasts. They did not choose the cave lion or some big-toothed cat. They chose the bear, both cave bear and brown bear equally. Bear cults thrived before the first dog was domesticated, before the first sword was created, and before man had ever tasted beer or wine. In all of Europe, the bear was truly the King of Beasts. As for northern Asia and North America, I'm not sure at what point the grizzly acquired this status.
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Post by King Kodiak on Feb 25, 2019 18:46:10 GMT -5
The Nandi Bear, also called Ngoloko, Duba, Chimosit, Kikambangwe, Chimisit, Vere, Kerit, Sabrookoo and various other names depending on the particular region, is a cryptid reported to live in Africa. The sightings of the Nandi Bear by Western backs up the reality of the beast. Officially there are no members of the bear family in Africa in modern times, but reports of bears or bear-like creatures are nothing new to Africa. Description The Nandi Bear is often described as being like a large hyena/ bear-like creature around 4-6 feet tall or the size of a black bear. Some have speculated that Nandi Bears are in fact misidentified hyenas or a surviving chalicotheres. It is said to have a brownish red to a dark color coat. The Nandi Bear is reported to leave five toed, nearly 9 inch long tracks that are distinctly canine like with the heels being long. In some accounts the Nandi Bear has demonstrated a tendency to rise on its hind legs when observed. It is a nocturnal animal and is said to attack humans only on dark moonless nights. It has been said to prey upon the children and natives from the villages. Local legend holds that it only eats the brain of its victims. There are cases when natives have killed the beast, normally by burning a hut it had entered. Westerners have also shot at the beast, but without success. The Nandi Bear has eluded both hunters and researchers alike to remain unclassified by the scientific community. Other than the Atlas Bear extinct by the 1800s, no living bears are known to be native to modern Africa, though the Etruscan, and species of the prehistoric genera Agriotherium and Indarctos, lived in Northern Hemisphere during the Pliocene and Pleistocene. Louis Leakey suggested that Nandi Bear descriptions matched that of the extinct bear, though Chalicotheres were Perissodactyls. Sightings Though sightings of the Nandi Bear have been reported by natives for centuries, the Nandi Bear was first reported by colonists in the early 1900's. In the Journal of East Africa and Uganda Natural History Society, Geoffrey Williams who was a part of the Nandi Expedition published his own sighting of the creature. As Williams wrote: I was travelling with a cousin on the Uasingishu just after the Nandi expedition, and, of course, long before there was any settlement up there. We had been camped . . . near the Mataye and were marching towards the Sirgoit Rock when we saw the beast . . . I saw a large animal sitting up on its haunches no more than 30 yards away . . . I should say it must have been nearly 5 feet high . . . it dropped forward and shambled away towards the Sirgoit with what my cousin always describes as a sort of sideways canter . . . I snatched my rifle and took a snapshot at it as it was disappearing among the rocks, and, though I missed it, it stopped and turned its head round to look at us. . . . In size it was, should I say, larger than the bear that lives in the pit at the "Zoo" and it was quite as heavily built. The fore quarters were very thickly furred, as were all four legs, but the hind quarters were comparatively speaking smooth or bare. . . . . the head was long and pointed and exactly like that of a bear. . . . I have not a very clear recollection of the ears beyond the fact that they were small, and the tail, if any, was very small and practically unnoticeable. The color was dark. . . . Other reports of the creature come from workers on the Magadi Railway which was then under construction. Schindler, a railway employee had come across a series of five toed, canine-like tracks that measured 8.5 inches long with the tracks heel being long. On March 8, 1913, G. W. Hickes, the engineer in charge building the Magadi Railway through East Africa reported sighting a Nandi Bear. While traveling on a motor trolley at 25 miles per hour, he had spotted what he first thought to be a hyena about 50 yards straight ahead. Although the "hyena" had noticed Hickes and was heading off the line at a right angle, the trolley was approaching faster than the animal could make its escape through the eighteen inch high grass of the open country. As Hickes drew nearer he realized that the creature he first thought to be a hyena was something different. The animal was about as tall as a lion and tawny in color. Its thick-set body had high withers and a broad rump. The creature had a short neck, stumpy nose, and short ears. As it ran off with its forelegs and both hind legs rising at the same time, Hickes noticed its shaggy hair which reach down its large, mud covered feet. After the strange beast had vanished from sight did Hickes realize that the creature he saw was the same one that others had reported seeing during the railway's construction. Not long after Hickes encounter a native servant reported seeing a creature similar to the one Hickes had seen standing on its hind legs. To this day reports of these strange creature continue, only time will tell whether or not the identity of the Nandi Bear will ever be discovered. cryptidz.wikia.com/wiki/Nandi_Bear
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Post by King Kodiak on Feb 25, 2019 18:50:01 GMT -5
ARTIST RENDITION OF NANDI BEAR.
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Post by King Kodiak on Feb 25, 2019 19:14:53 GMT -5
The Nandi Bear is an unconfirmed animal, reported to live in East Africa.[1] It takes its name from the Nandi people who live in western Kenya, in the area the Nandi Bear is reported from. It is also known as Chemisit,[1] Kerit, Koddoelo,[1] Ngoloko, or Duba (which derives from dubb or dubbha, the Arabic words for 'bear' and 'hyena' respectively.[citation needed]) Description Descriptions of the Nandi Bear are of a ferocious, powerfully built carnivore with high front shoulders (over four feet tall) and a sloping back, somewhat similar to a hyena. Some have speculated that Nandi Bears are in fact a misidentified hyena or a surviving Ice Age giant hyena: Karl Shuker states that a surviving short-faced hyaena Pachycrocuta brevirostris, extinct c. 500,000 years before present, would "explain these cases very satisfactorily."[3] Other than the Atlas bear (extinct by the 1800s), no modern bears are known to be native to modern Africa, though the Etruscan bear, and species of the prehistoric genera Agriotherium and Indarctos, lived in Northern Africa during the Pliocene and Pleistocene. Louis Leakey[4] suggested that Nandi Bear descriptions matched that of the extinct Chalicotherium, though chalicotheres were herbivores. The Nandi people call it "kerit". Local legend holds that it only eats the brain of its victims. Nandi Bears were regularly reported in Kenya throughout the 19th century and early 20th century.[5] Bernard Heuvelmans's On the Track of Unknown Animals and Karl Shuker's In Search of Prehistoric Survivors[3] provide the most extensive chronicles of Nandi Bear sightings in print. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nandi_Bear
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Post by King Kodiak on Feb 25, 2019 19:21:37 GMT -5
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Post by brobear on Feb 26, 2019 0:52:42 GMT -5
My thoughts: it is a strong part of the human being to fill an empty void with non-existent monsters. Sasquatch, Yeti, Marsupial tigers, dragons, etc. Perhaps after the extinction of the mega-beasts, after so long a time ( hundreds of thousands of years ) that man-kind lived in a world where monsters were real, and his fire kept them at bay. Just a thought. *By the way, England has her "Beast of Exmoor" which is basically a "panther" similar to a black or gray cougar. Just as there are no bears in Africa, likewise, there are no big cats in Europe.
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Post by King Kodiak on Feb 26, 2019 3:56:22 GMT -5
My thoughts: it is a strong part of the human being to fill an empty void with non-existent monsters. Sasquatch, Yeti, Marsupial tigers, dragons, etc. Perhaps after the extinction of the mega-beasts, after so long a time ( hundreds of thousands of years ) that man-kind lived in a world where monsters were real, and his fire kept them at bay. Just a thought. *By the way, England has her "Beast of Exmoor" which is basically a "panther" similar to a black or gray cougar. Just as there are no bears in Africa, likewise, there are no big cats in Europe. Dont forget Bigfoot, the leyend. Yeah you might be right. I just tought this “Nandi bear”’ sightings were interesting. “Half bear, half Hyena” like creature. They even found some tracks .
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Post by brobear on Feb 26, 2019 4:01:53 GMT -5
My thoughts: it is a strong part of the human being to fill an empty void with non-existent monsters. Sasquatch, Yeti, Marsupial tigers, dragons, etc. Perhaps after the extinction of the mega-beasts, after so long a time ( hundreds of thousands of years ) that man-kind lived in a world where monsters were real, and his fire kept them at bay. Just a thought. *By the way, England has her "Beast of Exmoor" which is basically a "panther" similar to a black or gray cougar. Just as there are no bears in Africa, likewise, there are no big cats in Europe. Dont forget Bigfoot, the leyend. Yeah you might be right. I just tought this “Nandi bear”’ sightings were interesting. “Half bear, half Hyena” like creature. They even found some tracks . They always have tracks.
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Post by King Kodiak on Feb 26, 2019 4:07:56 GMT -5
Dont forget Bigfoot, the leyend. Yeah you might be right. I just tought this “Nandi bear”’ sightings were interesting. “Half bear, half Hyena” like creature. They even found some tracks . They always have tracks. Yeah i know. I guess i am a guy that likes these kind of leyends. “only time will tell whether or not the identity of the Nandi Bear will ever be discovered.”
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