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Post by King Kodiak on Aug 21, 2020 12:37:41 GMT -5
Two more months of eating !! Damn... he gets much bigger he will explode. Wonder how tall 747 would be when standing bipedal? Yeah, he was 1400 lbs last year just before hibernation, this means he would normally be around 1000 to 1100 lbs. Bipedal he should be between 9 and 10 feet tall.
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Post by tom on Aug 21, 2020 12:50:19 GMT -5
Ok so that's roughly a gain so far of 22% body weight given his spring weight is 1100 lbs. I'm guessing coastal Bears can pack on up to 30% over their spring weight just prior to hibernation.
Here's a hypothetical question. What would you guess that Bart would have weighed were he a wild Bear living on Kodiak island just prior to hibernation. His claimed weight of 1500 lbs would not be what I consider spring weight but probably a split between spring and hibernation weight.
Guesses?
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Post by King Kodiak on Aug 21, 2020 12:54:19 GMT -5
Yeah, brown bears can gain between 30-40% more weight before hibernation.
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Post by brobear on Aug 21, 2020 13:03:01 GMT -5
His year-round weight of 1500 pounds would be like a wild bear's Summer weight; which is the proper time to weigh bears in the wild. I'm no mathematician, but I would guess he would crawl in his Winter's den weighing near-about 1800 pounds. Your thoughts?
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Post by King Kodiak on Aug 21, 2020 13:29:03 GMT -5
Yeah, this sounds about right. That's what i was thinking.
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Post by OldGreenGrolar on Aug 28, 2020 12:09:40 GMT -5
That winter weight is similar to that of a male polar bear which has a constant amount of fat all year round because of the cold weather.
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Post by King Kodiak on Sept 21, 2020 0:16:50 GMT -5
Salmon, Bears, Trees, and the Web of Life
Pacific salmon are weaved into the rich tapestry of coastal B.C. culture and heritage.
While local waterways in and around Whistler are void of salmon runs due to natural fish barriers such as waterfalls and tight canyons, Pemberton and Squamish waterways team with salmon nearing the end of their life cycle in the fall. These salmon feed bears and many other species and provide a substantial influx of nutrients to local streams, rivers, and adjacent forests. Science has the ability to sample these nutrients and determine if they come from the sea. Nutrients that come from the sea are called marine derived nutrients.
Recent studies suggest that one single bear feeding in a salmon stream drag approximately 700 partially consumed salmon carcasses to the forest – the remains of which go as far as 200 meters inland from stream banks. These carcasses are left in valley bottoms where trees are the largest. Coincidence? No. These carcasses feed the trees. Along with the scat from bears and other scavengers. Large tree growth rings directly correspond with large salmon runs. These large trees lining streams provide shelter and rich habitat for fish, bears, and many other forms of life.
These types of fascinating ecological links can be made between so many species on earth, and are just one more reason for us to be in awe of the natural cycles that surround us.
www.bearsmart.com/blog/salmon-bears-trees-web-life/
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Post by OldGreenGrolar on Sept 21, 2020 0:44:53 GMT -5
Brown bears make good gardeners and the plants live off the moisture of the salmon carcasses.
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Post by brobear on Oct 3, 2020 8:39:06 GMT -5
From reply #31: They then processed the information by digitally removing rocks and plants from the images, and found the volume of the bear’s bodies (a different metric than their weight). The hardest part, says Fitz, was calculating the animal’s mass. Since the scanner doesn’t provide information about the internal composition of the bears, the team had to approximate the percentages of body fat, muscle, and water of the scanned animals. The winner from the small sample was a bear called 747: he weighed an estimated 1,408 lb. The lightest one, a bear called 854 Divot, weighed a mere 676 lb. Quote: These numbers confirm what is known among bear biologists: the bears living in the Katmai area are probably the biggest brown bears on Earth. *I disagree with this statement. I believe that somehow, in their excitement, these guys merely ( momentarily ) forgot about the Kodiak brown bears.
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Post by King Kodiak on Oct 3, 2020 8:51:10 GMT -5
Exactly. We have charts proving otherwise. The best of the land baby. Anyhow, these Katmai bears do get real damn close though, definitely close.
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Post by tom on Oct 3, 2020 12:59:00 GMT -5
Exactly. We have charts proving otherwise. The best of the land baby. Anyhow, these Katmai bears do get real damn close though, definitely close. If I remember correctly Van from Great Bear Stakeout was a Katmai Bear and he was huge. So yes I agree they can get very large due to the fact that their diet as is the Kodiak rich in fish during the late summer months.
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Post by brobear on Nov 5, 2020 11:02:35 GMT -5
This is my favourite picture of him; you can see that this bear would have a story to tell. Van - the gigantic monarch of the Alaskan peninsula ( Katmai National Park ) who in his prime weighed ( estimates ) from 1300-1500 pounds. At roughly 20 years old; he is still the "Boss of the Woods" in his domain.
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Post by OldGreenGrolar on Nov 5, 2020 17:56:34 GMT -5
/\ Van is one huge specimen. He is actually heavier than most male polar bears.
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Post by King Kodiak on Nov 6, 2020 13:37:26 GMT -5
I posted this pic at page 2 long time ago, but its very important because it actually has the neck girth, which is 60 inches (5 ft). The head length is huge also, its 26 inches (2.16 ft). Now you understand why its not possible to kill an adult male brown bear with a quick neck bite.
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Post by King Kodiak on Nov 6, 2020 13:44:58 GMT -5
For the head measurement, it says it was 26 inches from nose to back of head. (Am not sure if that is the complete head circumference or just half, most likely just half). But even if its half, the whole head circumference would be 52 inches, that is still 8 inches less than his neck girth which is 60 inches.
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Post by theundertaker45 on Nov 6, 2020 14:02:44 GMT -5
King KodiakThat's a great share; awesome! The 26 inches are referring to the length (measured over the curves probably) from the tip of the nose to the back of the head; that sounds reasonable to me as we know that the skull of huge brown bears can approach or even surpass lengths of 500mm. The 60 inches around the neck is just humongous; that's basically as thick as an Indian woman is tall, imagine that.
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Post by King Kodiak on Nov 6, 2020 14:07:59 GMT -5
Ok but my question is, is the 26 inches the whole circumference, like all around the head? Because it says "from nose to back of head", but am not sure if that is the whole circumference.
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Post by theundertaker45 on Nov 6, 2020 14:09:15 GMT -5
King KodiakNo, it's just the length of the tip of the nose to the back of the head, it's no circumference at all, just an even line over the curves.
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Post by King Kodiak on Nov 6, 2020 14:14:12 GMT -5
King Kodiak No, it's just the length of the tip of the nose to the back of the head, it's no circumference at all, just an even line over the curves. Thanks Taker. That's what i thought. 26 inches is too small to be the circumference. This would mean that the head circumference would be 52 inches, still 8 inches less than the neck girth (circumference).
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Post by brobear on Nov 6, 2020 16:09:00 GMT -5
Reply #86 - Great find King Kodiak. I remember BigBonns talking about the bear with the 5-foot neck circumference. I believe this is the first time I've seen the picture.
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