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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2021 7:32:16 GMT -5
I would like every one to vote the poll and tell their opinion. I created this thread because many people thing the wolf as dangerous thus evil. I would like to see opinionsthat what you like about wolf and why? Wolves are my second best animal also after bear.
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Post by brobear on Feb 17, 2021 9:05:08 GMT -5
In ancient Europe, the wolf, along with all "creatures of the night", were considered as scary and evil. Here in America, ranchers and farmers thought of them as ruthless killers of livestock. They can be looked upon as brave and even noble; considering how each wolf is dedicated to the well being of the pack. They are indeed friendly loving creatures to each other. *Wolf importance in ecosystem and culture: 1- ecosystem - the natural world needs predators. the wolves play out this important function. 2- culture - without the wolf, we would not have the dog.
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Post by OldGreenGrolar on Feb 17, 2021 10:12:12 GMT -5
Wolves are loving creatures with noble being a second close. The pack looks out for each other and the leader goes last to look out for his pack.
Information posted on the wolves thread in the face off section.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2021 10:21:32 GMT -5
Wolves were regarded/made as a bad animals with extremely bad reputation. They are really not bad animals.
They are a keystone species of any ecosystem they are in.
As domestic dogs, they are loyal, friendly, social & smart amongst other traits.
They fear humans way more than some of us fear wolves
Attacks by wolves on humans are very very very rare in North America. And most of them were wolves with rabies or food conditionned wolves (fed by humans, which leads the wolf to lose fear of humans)
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2021 15:00:47 GMT -5
I think people fear wolf because of their scary look and predayion of livestock. Predation on cattle make people angry and sad and start to call them as evil. However, wolves are also respected like bears or lions.
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Post by brobear on Feb 18, 2021 2:58:14 GMT -5
The American Indians and those who came later from Europe viewed predators much differently. Our ancestors from Europe came here from a highly superstitious society. To them, the "creatures of the night" were all evil. Place on top of this issue, the American settlers were basically a farming culture. Wolves, cougars, and bears killed livestock. Therefore, the people held a deep hatred for predators and viewed them as cold-blooded merciless killers. To the Indians, wildlife, including the wolf, were seen as brothers. I read once, in a book about the plains Indians, If they went on a buffalo hunt, and found another tribe killing the buffalo, they would wait and then resume their hunt when the other peoples were finished. Also, if they witnessed a pack of wolves or a grizzly killing the buffalo, they would give these brothers room to have their share and not interfere.
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Post by OldGreenGrolar on Feb 18, 2021 3:16:59 GMT -5
I think people fear wolf because of their scary look and predayion of livestock. Predation on cattle make people angry and sad and start to call them as evil. However, wolves are also respected like bears or lions. People have a misconception of the wolves just as they do with other predators. Some bird of prey have been poisoned because they have been considered a foe rather than a friend.
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Post by smedz on May 7, 2021 18:40:33 GMT -5
Wolves were regarded/made as a bad animals with extremely bad reputation. They are really not bad animals. They are a keystone species of any ecosystem they are in. As domestic dogs, they are loyal, friendly, social & smart amongst other traits. They fear humans way more than some of us fear wolves Attacks by wolves on humans are very very very rare in North America. And most of them were wolves with rabies or food conditionned wolves (fed by humans, which leads the wolf to lose fear of humans) Question, how many fatal wolf attacks have their been on humans in North America?
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Post by OldGreenGrolar on May 7, 2021 23:07:55 GMT -5
/\ That is a good question. Regardless there are always more accounts of humans killing any animals compared to vice versa.
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Post by tom on May 8, 2021 15:15:24 GMT -5
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Post by Montezuma on May 10, 2021 0:08:59 GMT -5
An interesting fact is that a wolves eyes cannot detect blue light color.
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Post by OldGreenGrolar on May 11, 2021 2:44:56 GMT -5
An interesting fact is that a wolves eyes cannot detect blue light color. If that is the case everything blue will obviously look black or white to them.
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Post by Montezuma on May 11, 2021 16:41:22 GMT -5
Wolf is given importance in central asian states like mongolia, kazakhastan and turkimanistan etc. In northern europe, greece, Italy, in Egypt, some in middle east and too much in the north america.
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Post by OldGreenGrolar on May 12, 2021 4:03:42 GMT -5
Wolf is given importance in central asian states like mongolia, kazakhastan and turkimanistan etc. In northern europe, greece, Italy, in Egypt, some in middle east and too much in the north america. Since you like wolves a lot, please check out our sister forum: domain of the wolves in my signature.
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Post by Montezuma on May 12, 2021 13:37:58 GMT -5
Wolf is given importance in central asian states like mongolia, kazakhastan and turkimanistan etc. In northern europe, greece, Italy, in Egypt, some in middle east and too much in the north america. Since you like wolves a lot, please check out our sister forum: domain of the wolves in my signature. I havr checked that out but cannot login.
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2021 7:44:20 GMT -5
Since you like wolves a lot, please check out our sister forum: domain of the wolves in my signature. I havr checked that out but cannot login. that's weird. You should have no problem registering on my forum.
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2021 10:41:21 GMT -5
Wolves were regarded/made as a bad animals with extremely bad reputation. They are really not bad animals. They are a keystone species of any ecosystem they are in. As domestic dogs, they are loyal, friendly, social & smart amongst other traits. They fear humans way more than some of us fear wolves Attacks by wolves on humans are very very very rare in North America. And most of them were wolves with rabies or food conditionned wolves (fed by humans, which leads the wolf to lose fear of humans) Question, how many fatal wolf attacks have their been on humans in North America? How many is not the question. We must understand that the numbers are influenced by humans. That is behavior and ethics around wolves (which also applies to any wildlife). Do not feed wildlife is the major elements of all elements. Feeding animals make them less wary, less fearful and more depending on us [humans] to access or obtain easy food. Every animal is opportunist, varying greatly amongst species. They, as we would if we were them, take "what's benefit them the most for the lowest costs". Tell anyone this and think about it : "What is easier ?: Running after something 4-8 times your size and having the chance of injuring or even dying everytime you do so OR taking the "easy, lazy" way, and taking what people throw at you or give you ?" Of course, there is "more benefit" in the latter in terms of risk (not in the terms quantity of food). But they become bolder and habituated to us, stick close to roads (which increase the odds of them being hit) and start to become potential and real threats to humans. The result of our own actions. What i "resumed" in big post is that food-habituated or wolves relating human with food provider are wolves that lost the fear of humans and that are the most likely to attack and most likely to be "type" of wolves described/involved in attacks. --------- Rabies : Every rabid animal is to watch carefully and potentially dangerous. Of course not all wolves attacking humans are rabid. They are however with food-habituated wolves, the most likely to attack humans. -------- Unprovoked and "Unprovoked" defensive/protective attacks : These attacks are less common and can be avoided by taking smart preventives actions. - Knowing if wolves frequently roam the area, especially in april-may-june. Dogs wouldn't be a good idea to walk with. [It's denning season, puppies and rendez-vous sites]. - Knowns dens should be avoided. Etc. ------ Finally, unprovoked predatory attacks by non-habituated wolves are extremely rare. They are not a threat to humans and shouldn't be chastised or feared as their former image might have influenced. Below or around 10 fatals attacks occurred in NA in the last 150 years. Not all were predatory. In fact, many weren't
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Post by Montezuma on May 21, 2021 11:57:37 GMT -5
I havr checked that out but cannot login. that's weird. You should have no problem registering on my forum. I will try again.
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Post by Montezuma on May 21, 2021 18:55:12 GMT -5
I have join domain of the wolf, name: Acamapichtli.
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Post by smedz on May 25, 2021 10:06:27 GMT -5
www.sciencenews.org/article/gray-wolves-scare-deer-roads-reduce-car-collisions?fbclid=IwAR2ZlEYHktkdcq2XmAeLk9NoUxfKUvUB7v-ycqhNOcwHhdSikIw1kW7D6B4 Gray wolves scare deer from roads, reducing dangerous collisions In Wisconsin counties with wolves, deer-car accidents dropped, saving millions of dollars By Jack J. Lee 20 HOURS AGO Gray wolves help keep North America’s deer populations in check, and by doing so, may provide an added benefit for people: curbing deer-vehicle collisions. In Wisconsin counties where wolf populations returned, the number of such collisions dropped in each area by 24 percent on average, scientists report online May 24 in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences. Economist Jennifer Raynor and colleagues analyzed data on wolf populations, deer populations and deer-vehicle collisions for 63 counties in Wisconsin from 1988 to 2010. In the 29 counties that had wolves, the predators thinning deer populations contributed about a 6 percent reduction in deer-vehicle collisions. The rest of the decrease, the team proposes, was due to the wolves’ presence near roads, which they use as travel corridors, creating a so-called “landscape of fear” that keeps deer away. That suggests that recreational hunters wouldn’t replicate wolves’ impact by simply culling the same number of deer, the researchers say. The average drop of 38 deer-vehicle collisions per year in counties with wolves translates to an estimated $10.9 million in savings each year across the state, the team found. For comparison, the state paid about $3 million over the last 35 years to compensate for wolf damages. There may be other economic benefits not measured by the study such as reductions in damage to agriculture by deer and in Lyme disease frequency, says Raynor of Wesleyan University in Middletown, Conn (SN: 11/15/18). “The most interesting thing to me about choosing Wisconsin as a case study is that this is a human-dominated landscape,” Raynor says. Similar analyses could guide management decisions where potential wolf habitats overlap with heavily populated areas, such as in the northeastern United States, she and colleagues propose.
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